Not as much as being a constant disappointment on the field. Seriously, I understand wy you would ask, but it hasn't been coming up.
Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (The truth may hurt, but it's the truth)
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Elite coaching + very, very good quarterback play = something we haven't seen in a long time.
This is what Sark was hired to fix.
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1. The most impressive quarterback was from Texas, but for at least this week, it wasn’t Quinn Ewers, the player who has the rare perfect ranking from 247Sports. Ewers was excellent overall, but the guy who I thought outshined him was Cade Klubnik, a Clemson commit from powerhouse Austin Westlake. The wiry 6-foot-2, 185-pounder, ranked as 247Sports’ No. 6 QB entering the event but likely is headed for a better ranking soon. He was the MVP selected by the Elite 11 coaches and led his team to the seven-on-seven tournament championship. His accuracy sparkled each day. He showed he could throw very well on the move, and he seemed dialed in throughout the event, which separated him from most of the other top guys who flashed at times but weren’t as consistently sharp.
Clemson, which is in the midst of quite a run of gifted quarterbacks, has another terrific one on the way. From talking to coaches about Klubnik and from observing him the past few days, it feels like the bust factor — the chance that he won’t come close to the hype — is going to be very low. I’ll be really, really surprised if he doesn’t have an excellent college career
7. The guy everyone seemed to be most split on was Texas commit Maalik Murphy. He struggled Friday in seven-on-seven, and he knew it. I was around him when he discussed it with one of the Elite 11 coaches, and Murphy handled that exceptionally well. He came across as sincere and accountable, focused on trying to get better. Not making excuses or being obtuse.
Murphy, at 6-5 and 230 pounds, has a huge frame and big arm; if you told me he was 6-5, 245, it wouldn’t surprise me. He’s engaging and fun to be around. The guys I spoke to think he’s very coachable. He was inconsistent this week, but keep in mind, he has started only six high school games, and as one of the other Elite 11 QBs told me the other night, Murphy just turned 17 recently and is one of the youngest quarterbacks at the event. It’ll be fascinating to watch his development.
Murphy plays with real confidence in his ability to make throws into tight windows, and he displayed that several times. That’s something a lot of young quarterbacks shy away from in settings like this one. His attitude indicates he’s going to embrace getting better in the detail work and the finer nuances of the position.
Related: Elite 11 daily tracker
1. The most impressive quarterback was from Texas, but for at least this week, it wasn’t Quinn Ewers, the player who has the rare perfect ranking from 247Sports. Ewers was excellent overall, but the guy who I thought outshined him was Cade Klubnik, a Clemson commit from powerhouse Austin Westlake. The wiry 6-foot-2, 185-pounder, ranked as 247Sports’ No. 6 QB entering the event but likely is headed for a better ranking soon. He was the MVP selected by the Elite 11 coaches and led his team to the seven-on-seven tournament championship. His accuracy sparkled each day. He showed he could throw very well on the move, and he seemed dialed in throughout the event, which separated him from most of the other top guys who flashed at times but weren’t as consistently sharp.
Clemson, which is in the midst of quite a run of gifted quarterbacks, has another terrific one on the way. From talking to coaches about Klubnik and from observing him the past few days, it feels like the bust factor — the chance that he won’t come close to the hype — is going to be very low. I’ll be really, really surprised if he doesn’t have an excellent college career
7. The guy everyone seemed to be most split on was Texas commit Maalik Murphy. He struggled Friday in seven-on-seven, and he knew it. I was around him when he discussed it with one of the Elite 11 coaches, and Murphy handled that exceptionally well. He came across as sincere and accountable, focused on trying to get better. Not making excuses or being obtuse.
Murphy, at 6-5 and 230 pounds, has a huge frame and big arm; if you told me he was 6-5, 245, it wouldn’t surprise me. He’s engaging and fun to be around. The guys I spoke to think he’s very coachable. He was inconsistent this week, but keep in mind, he has started only six high school games, and as one of the other Elite 11 QBs told me the other night, Murphy just turned 17 recently and is one of the youngest quarterbacks at the event. It’ll be fascinating to watch his development.
Murphy plays with real confidence in his ability to make throws into tight windows, and he displayed that several times. That’s something a lot of young quarterbacks shy away from in settings like this one. His attitude indicates he’s going to embrace getting better in the detail work and the finer nuances of the position.
Murphy was one if the top 3 quarterbacks in 2 of the days... struggled some in the other,
These numbers don’t convince me that high OL rankings matter.
If you add up the numbers for those top four rankings, it only amounts to just above a 20% chance of being drafted. It actually tells me that OL player development is more important.
This might explain why Walker Little (five star) and Sam Cosmi (three-star) we’re pretty much drafted in same spot.
You don't measure it by adding those four together,
As is the case with all positions, the top twi tiers matter... the ones below it don't.
Lots of negativity and I get why. But everyone has Iowa State in the Big 12 Championship game as well as preseason top 10. Check my math but I don't remember ISU putting together a string of top 5 recruiting classes to get to this point.
I'm not saying recruiting doesn't matter. But after Strong and Herman, I'm putting much more emphasis on development than our class ranking.
We are worried about our opener against Louisiana. Where have those guys finished in recruiting the last 5 years?
I will say that I'm very happy to be reading about OL recruiting for a change instead of skill position. Outside of QB, nothing matters more.
I just wish the commitment of Maalik translated to the windfall of OL recruits the way some people thought it would have.
I'm not saying recruiting doesn't matter. But after Strong and Herman, I'm putting much more emphasis on development than our class ranking.
We are worried about our opener against Louisiana. Where have those guys finished in recruiting the last 5 years?
I will say that I'm very happy to be reading about OL recruiting for a change instead of skill position. Outside of QB, nothing matters more.
I just wish the commitment of Maalik translated to the windfall of OL recruits the way some people thought it would have.
Genuine question, not being a smart ass, why not?
Also, if the numbers worsen for Longhorn players, doesn’t that tell you player development is a problem?
Iowa State brings back 20+ starters and didn't lose anyone of note. It's basically the most veteran team in the history of the league.
a. Because they aren't the same thing. A national top 150 player is nothing more than a glorified national top 600 player.
b. Of course.
I’m viewing it from the perspective of the player, regardless of their ranking, who all have the same goal which is to get drafted. And I’m not so sure their ranking (in of itself) gets them drafted, but rather their hard work and development.
Just my belief, I guess. Especially since even the top player ranking barely gets decent casino betting odds.
The OL position performs worse than other positions at the top, but borderline 50-50 or even 3:1 is a hell of a lot better than 5:1 odds or worse.
It especially comes into play when we're talking about high level NFL talents that go on the first two days of the draft.
But, yes, development matters a lot.
Especially since none of those 20+ players were recruited by anyone of note.
Purdy was, but your overall point is correct.
He's been one of the toughest guys to get a real read on.
They seemed to think they were getting the 5 star DL that picked Ohio State as well, so they are riding a wave of confidence that might be somewhat justified, but potentially headed to slightly overconfidence.
There are many on here that think just winning will solve our recruiting woes with the top kids. Fast forward to Bama and all the winning they have done and they still find it necessary to pay for certain top recruits. Until Texas is willing to do the same not much will change
A team that lost their leader and 4 year starter at QB who's replacement has yet to start a college football game.....
You think recruits have to pay back under the table money and gifts?
It has been hard on these schools too...Tennessee, Michigan, Penn State, Florida, Florida State, Washington, Colorado, Nebraska, Miami, etc. All of those teams have experienced elite status in their histories yet have floundered for the most part for decades. There are some outlier seasons occasionally. It is just hard to get back to elite status for a variety of reasons. Everything just has to come together.
Texas needs to put together a few decent seasons and has some problems to address this year. I think we have holes in our secondary. Jamison seems like the best player by a long way. Thompson and Green just have not matured yet as DBs that can compete consistently with good WRs. Safeties could be a mess unless some of the younger guys step up. LBs could be solid but not a certainty. Interior Def line should be a plus. Edge rushing is a concern.
We will start the most inexperienced QBs vs OU, ISU, OSU, Baylor, KSU, TCU, and WVU. RBs look good assuming Bijan stays healthy. I think OL can be solid. WRs is a crap shoot. The Horns really need some young, unproven WRs to step up. Think Omeire or the transfer. The tight ends have not been a consistent plus, but there is some experience in Brewer and Wiley.
The good news is there are talented transfers and new guys. Also, the team was competitive with everyone in the conference last year. Of course, they were led by a very experienced, tough, and competitive QB on offense and a playmaking edge rusher on defense. If they can fill those voids, which is a big ask, they should be competitive again. There will likely be growing pains with a new staff. We just have to hope for one of those magical seasons where things click and they win most close games.
If one of the QBs steps up, and Sark and PK can work their magic, they have a chance make some noise. However, so many things have to come together. Sark had success at Alabama as an OC. However, the roster was elite, which likely makes a difference.
Yeah, but the 4-year starter's inconsistency was one of this program's issues in the last 4 years.
The play at quarterback will be easier to improve than the left tackle or the pass rush.
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