True, but we're discussing Best Song and not movie.
I think they typically lean hard to popularity on that award.
Three of the previous four winners included Adele, John Legend and Sam Smith.
Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Tom Herman played it cool this weekend...)
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I think they typically lean hard to popularity on that award.
Three of the previous four winners included Adele, John Legend and Sam Smith.
It hasn't held up well. Interesting at the time perhaps, not very good now. Lots more of movies are like that.
The American Film Institute ranks it as the No.27 film of all-time.
Let's not get too caught up in their order, I was just listing it as evidence that Bondman's critique of the movie was a little harsh.Saw that
It's viewed as a classic and it's the 50th anniversary, which justifies the two leads from the movie giving Best Picture out last night.
JMO.
For sure. Once you get into that rarified air of film creation, the subjectivity of rankings is, well, very subjective.
Shakespeare in Love beating Saving Private Ryan
Kind of amazing that both are still around and look as good as they do. I remembered real quickly that both are pushing 80 when all hell broke loose.
There are a bunch of older movies that people still love and recommend, Bonnie and Clyde is not one of them. I doubt if most under 50 have even seen it. It was "shocking" and "influential" at the time, but looks old and dated now. Some movies never grow old and some look old once their era is over. Lots from the 60's and early 70's fall into the latter group.
I doubt that people watching it for the first time now would think that it is particularly good, much less one of the top 30 of all time. It is overrated no matter what AFI says. A quick look at the list confirms that it is way too high. Far better movies are listed below it.
You should try reading the article and adjusting your expectations. Ketch made very clear that there's a new philosophy about junior days and that means no pressure to commit this early. Do you not follow recruiting and the de-commitment season at A&M every year like clockwork? Are you telling me you'd rather have a bunch of meaningless placeholder commitments in February a year before signing day, or try another approach like Tom Herman is doing? I'll take the latter.
And one more thing, you have no idea what kind of momentum came out of this weekend unless you are talking to the recruits themselves, which I'm sure you are not.
It'd a horrible spot to be in and I hate to MMQB this one, but you have to announce that you have the wrong card. You can't let the winner be guessed.
use any word you want to describe the way you articulated your position, but the larger and more important still remains. Dude.
Not the great ones. Obviously there are elements that date any movie, but ones like the first 2 Godfathers, To Kill a Mockingbird, Casablanca, the Sound of Music, Singing in the Rain, The Wizard of Oz, and Lawrence of Arabia have a timelessness about them that defines what a classic is.
Just thinking about including Bonnie and Clyde on a list anywhere close to those makes my point pretty well. It Is not like those at all, in my opinion. I felt that way when it came our as well.
I try not to hold a movie's age against it. I was watching King Kong, the original 1933 movie the other day. It's FX are obviously dated, but it also has that special charm to it, especially the Ray Harryhausen stop-motion FX that make movies like that fun and charming, at least in my eyes.
Even non FX movies of the past can inform you how things used to be in a given time period, both good and bad. There's definitely some movies that are dated in terms of negative stereotypes and poor characterization of people and an era. I won't dispute that, but they can also inform you about how people used to think back then too, which in itself can be educational.
That's just my take.
I watched Bonnie and Clyde about 3 months ago on blu ray, and while agree it's not in the class of the great films you mentioned. It's still a very good film imo. It has Great cinematography and excellent performances, particularly Faye Dunaway.
They do. When I saw him beginning to obviously take his time announcing the winner, I thought it was senility kicking in. In retrospect, his actions made complete sense.
You can't really be suggesting that some of those movies don't feel dated.
The Wizard of Oz?
Agree with your comment about the women players turning down shots that must be taken and made. You simply cannot have players on the floor who refuse to accept responsibility of taking uncontested, makeable shots. Those players belong on the bench in crunch time. I blame the coaches at least as much as the players for having them in the game at that point. By this time in the season the coaches must know who they can rely on.
I don't use search engines for my news, heck I don't get much news these days to begin with so ok you win that battle.
Go back and look at what I wrote, which is very little so there was never a rant on my part.
I took the original post to be as it is hypocritical for those to scream any kind of ism towards a certain person only to ignore (that's the key word, ok now I'm ranting) during a ceremony. That is all!
I'm calmer than you dude!
a. The whole point that we're discussing is me pointing out that in reality, much was written and reported on as it relates to Casey Affleck's situation. It was intimated that Hollywood somehow was ignoring that story and it's just not true. It hovered over his every move last night. My only point as it relates to a search engine was to provide proof on the depth and variety on that story being reported on.
b. It feels like you're debating me for the sport of it all and not based on any real point, other than I'm an asshole.
c. Only one of us is using exclamation marks.
Well the last part of your second point is spot on,a. The whole point that we're discussing is me pointing out that in reality, much was written and reported on as it relates to Casey Affleck's situation. It was intimated that Hollywood somehow was ignoring that story and it's just not true. It hovered over his every move last night. My only point as it relates to a search engine was to provide proof on the depth and variety on that story being reported on.
b. It feels like you're debating me for the sport of it all and not based on any real point, other than I'm an asshole.
c. Only one of us is using exclamation marks.
all three points, actually.Well the last part of your second point is spot on,
one was probably more true than the other two, though. Point conceded.
If you read my post I acknowledged that old movies feel dated. I suggested that the great one possess a certain timeless quality that is part of what makes them classics. I would definitely put the Wizard of Oz in that category. Bonnie and Clyde not so much.
Fair enough. At the end of the day, I promise I don't care that much about the movie.
All I did was quote someone else's post and say boom. You engaged me instead of the poster of quoted post so I guess we'll agree to disagree on which point is the most accurate.all three points, actually.
one was probably more true than the other two, though. Point conceded.
All this...on Orangebloods. Eye roll and face in palm.All I did was quote someone else's post and say boom. You engaged me instead of the poster of quoted post so I guess we'll agree to disagree on which point is the most accurate.
It's been discussed on the site a few times, especially within this column, as I've updated my weekly rankings.
I honestly didn't know about it until after I saw the movie. Once I knew about it, I noticed more and more coverage.
Every tweet about him last night seemed to have a reference to his situation.
