With Kelly taking over he might not be right there either. Mariota ran Kelly’s offense perfectly. I bet her goes after a duel threat instead of a pro style.
Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (What I really think after 12 games...)
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3rd and 2 call v Tech is worse than a high school coach. TH has headset on and he didn't stop that call he's more clueless than Beck and neither will be here in 2020...
Sumlin is gone and they’ll cover that owed money in about 3 seconds.
And Jimbo has a 7 million buyout if he willingly leaves. If he’s fired it’s 20-30ish.
Aggys will cover the 7 mil buyout in about 5 seconds if it comes to that. They’ve got money just like Texas does.
The one thing is idk why Jimbo wants to step down to aggy and play Saban every season for the next 3-4. Because FSU to aggy is def a step down. And there is a likelihood that agent is leveraging money.
But I’m in the camp that these rumors wouldn’t be floated if he wasn’t legitimately interested even so slightly. It just feels like it’ll happen. But aggy does have a way of f’ing things up.
I’m here for the potential carnage/entertainment.
Yeah the aggies are a step down from Florida State. The coaching changes will be exciting this season
UCLA already has Dorain Thompson-Robinson committed. I always thought a flip back to OU or flip to USC was more likely but hey like you said lets hope he sticks with UT.
The 3rd and two call coupled with multiple other calls during the season regarding field goals and going for it on 4th down tell me that Herman is not an upper level power 5 coach, just a UH or USF level and certainly not worth $5,5 M. Bama picked the worst weekend to play their worst game of the year (i have all of their games). They play them again and win by 17. You may be on to something with your OU vote. Speaks volumes about Riley versus Herman.
Its not the administration's job to tell Herman to fire Tim Beck. Its Herman's job to make that decision, and it's the administration's job to fire Herman's ass if he gets it wrong. Im not upset with that news at all.
I dont want our administration dictating to coaches which assistants to fire. We hired Tom Herman to make those decisions and we pay him enough to get it right.
I dont want our administration dictating to coaches which assistants to fire. We hired Tom Herman to make those decisions and we pay him enough to get it right.
Well it is essentially an OP-ED, so there is that. Second there is some information in there.
Bingo. Our administration is more concerned with appearances than substance. Charlie had the right colored skin for the previous administration. Herman is a charmer and has won over the current administration. Winning unfortunately comes down the list of priorities at a place like Texas. As long as the money keeps rolling in, I don't think the administration will feel any sense of urgency at all. My how the might have fallen.
Face it, we ordinary fans are not in the club. We are the rabble outside the gates being told to "eat cake."
The next few weeks, depending on what moves are made, can give us some hope for 2018.
But next year looks about the same on offense, with a step back on defense.
Yay.
But next year looks about the same on offense, with a step back on defense.
Yay.
All we need to finish burying and speaking a final goodbye prayer to UT Football is for A&M to get Fisher (or another high profile HC), then they begin playing us again in an annual Thanksgiving +1 game and for Fisher to torture Herman with one ugly beatdown a year, while Lincoln Riley (doing the impossible calling plays and being HC) also kicks our butts three more years in a row.
If those dominos fall Herman will have to start calling plays, but not here - and not as a HC.
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And inexplicably they get the #6 seed. A gigantic “WTF?” Moment.
From ESPN:
“Texas is ranked No. 2 in the American Volleyball Coaches Association poll, has two losses (none since Sept. 8), ran the table in the Big 12, yet ended up the No. 6 seed in the NCAA tournament. And, if seeds hold, Texas will have to face No. 3 seed Stanford for a trip to the final four. Last year, the Cardinal beat the Longhorns in the national championship match.“
People underestimate Aggie alumni money. When they wanted Franchione gone, phone calls were made and the issue was oversubscribed in one day. From a very inside source. I attended the man's funeral and they had Aggie flags everywhere and they sang the war hymn. The drape on the coffin was an Aggie maroon blanket.
Except this is not “first opportunity”. Evidence has been front and center all year. Some HCs would likely have either fired or reassigned Beck by mid season and fired him after TT.
I have to admit that so did I. All I remember were the good times when I thought that no matter the score, I thought Colt would win the day. I bet that Colt remembers the good and the bad, but the bad memories are not spoken about because the good memories pay the rent in perpetuity. And so it goes for us sports fans. It is what we do.
Your first paragraph is exactly how I feel. Wanted Herman after his first year at UH, maybe earlier. But I’ve seen nothing - nothing this year in the coaching department that shows he’s ‘special’. Zero. If we could go back a year in time I’d hope he went with LSU instead of us.
But who knows, maybe this wake up call is what he needs to wake up after seeing his income skyrocket the past 3 years. Big success so suddenly can dull a person’s edge until they come out of the ether. If they come out.
Point 1 - it’s sad to be out-coached by Kingsbury but it happened.
Point 2 - Sam’s performance was not “less than outstanding.” It was Bad. I think he has potential but you have call it for what it is. I have to believe SB will transfer. Sad to see it but how can he think he has a chance when he couldn’t get in game after watching Sam’s bad performance.
Point 2 - Sam’s performance was not “less than outstanding.” It was Bad. I think he has potential but you have call it for what it is. I have to believe SB will transfer. Sad to see it but how can he think he has a chance when he couldn’t get in game after watching Sam’s bad performance.
I think Mack needs to have a heart to heart mtg with Herman about accountability, and what he needs to do to "get it fixed." And yes, I'm being totally serious.
This. Colt had an awesome, record setting RS Fr year before his sophomore slump (mainly interceptions), but I never doubted how good he could be after he tore it up his RS Fr year. Very few did. In four years starting he had 3 great years and one good year.
Sam had a couple of good games and a couple of awful ones. Like Shane last year and unlike Colt, Sam was a true fish, but he has shown very little of what Colt showed early.
Sure hope Shane doesn't transfer, but he deserved a shot in that miserable performance of a so called game, when we had to pass, and I won't blame him if he does leave.
Sticking with Sam thru that horror probably told Shane all he needed to know. Maybe Mensa can figure out a way to make him stay, or hope one of the incoming Fr QBs overcome the freshman QB odds and nails it.
Personally and without a doubt I'll take and Gilbert and Mattox over Beck and Warehime any day of the week (and twice on proverbial Sunday.
3 and 2. That call should haunt Beck and Herman for years, and Sam won't ever forget his 3rd grade decision and execution on that horrendous pick when we were still in a good place to win the game.
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Is he Plan A, as in a confirmed target from UT sources, or is this just conjecture based on what seems logical?
I see your point. I agree the players made a lot of mistakes. But I'd argue it's more on the coaches to stop putting players in position to make those mistakes.
On all but one of the back breaking losses @Ketchum mentioned were plays Sam had the ball in his hands when many feel he shouldn't have. back to back QB sneaks @ USC, not running it on 2nd down in Oklahoma state territory and worse of all the 3rd and 2 call Friday.
That tech loss is 100% on the coaching staff when the players got them to that point.
The staff failed this team on Friday.
I feel the opposite. I feel the players failed themselves.
Let’s see here:
Did the coaches drop 2-3 interceptions?
Did the coaches miss several throws that would’ve been touchdowns (Humphrey and Johnson)?
Did the coaches fail to block Tech on the goal line at the two yard line two times in a row?
Did the coaches fail to throw the ball on the trick play when Sam was open?
Did the coaches fumble in Tech territory (Carter)?
Did the coaches muff a punt and fumble away a possession?
Did the coaches take a knee at the 23 yard line when Tech kicked off from their own 20?
Wouldn’t you say that they were in position to make those plays? They didn’t make them. The tensed up and played tight. They didn’t expect to be in a dogfight and all those plays above messed with their heads because they knew they should’ve been up by a decent margin - a margin that Tech wouldn’t have come back from.
The coaches can’t make those plays for the players. The players have to make those plays. They blew that game imo. They should be mad at themselves.
If you still don’t feel that way, then we’ll just have to agree to disagree.
It’s coaching period rest is BS especially on the offense.fire his ass if he can’t figure it out
I know man and those are all terrific points. I agree the game likely dosnt come down to 3rd and 2 if half of those things do/don't happen.
But the fact is that it did. The players played bad but even so they did enough to win the game up until that point. That play Sam threw the pick should never have been called.
Beck has had some solid moments this year but too many times have We just struggled and stalled and looked incompetent.
Maybe Beck is good enough and he had some bad breaks. Maybe this offense is just a few things away from clicking. I'd like to hope and believe that. But too many times has Beck's bad outweighed his good. just for continuity in the system Maybe just relieve him of playcalling. Idk. I just know that he's not the answer.
I personally expect championship level apathy from the fans next season.
We will be going into Herman's second season after witnessing the worst possible from both Buechele and Ehlinger. Buechele has zero pocket presence and Ehlinger is a one trick pony with serious accuracy issues.
Losing Williams, McMillon, Cuney, Rodriguez, and even Nickelson from a putrid offensive line is going to hurt. A lot. That leaves us with 12 offensive linemen plus whoever we end up recruiting. Only Kerkstetter, Vahe and Okafor have any significant PT under their belts. If that isn't some sky is falling information I don't know what would qualify.
Kyle Porter will be back. Enough said.
We have a head coach that I believe has lost the locker room and has shown zero signs of ability to conform his offensive philosophy to the talent available on the roster. If the bread and butter of the offense is having the QB be the leading rusher we're sunk.
I trust Orlando will work with the talent he has available and put a quality product on the field. I just no longer have that faith in the head coach. He's put himself in a situation where he has to earn trust back now.
I can't help but wonder would we be firing our coach if he had gone 52-26 the last 6 seasons and gone to a bowl game every season? Yet that's what Aggie just did and it looks like they are bringing in Jimbo Fisher. Whatever else, you have to admire Aggie pushing all their chips into the middle of the table while we continue to try to fill inside straights.
I agree with you there. I have no clue what the answers are either.
I’m not gung ho on Beck and criticizing the 3rd and 2 playcall is fair imo.
But I’ve no clue what the answer is. I’m not sure keeping Beck is the right answer or assigning someone else to call plays is.
Perhaps staying the course is actually best?
I don’t know what the correct answer is.
That’s why Tom Herman gets paid the big bucks.
Where is the “lost the lockeroom” shit coming from?
Everyone is just projecting all of the last 8 years at Herman’s and feet and flippantly saying, “Fix this football program, you son of a bitch!”
I understand disappointment and frustration but the vitriol and made up charges are just bizarre and unwarranted.
