Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Xanax should sponsor this week's Big 12 Championship...)

[Ketchum]

In an era of newfound quarterback greatness, Rodgers' career numbers are an entire tier higher than the likes of Brees and Brady.

He transcends what the high level of play at a position looks like.

 

[HuffTex]

In an era of newfound quarterback greatness, Rodgers' career numbers are an entire tier higher than the likes of Brees and Brady.

He transcends what the high level of play at a position looks like.

And yet, that doesn't translate to more wins, or championships....maybe it's because some of the things that advanced metrics do an absolute sh*t job of telling you is who was the better leader. Who was better when it meant the most. Almost no expert would pick Rodgers over Brady or Montana.
Montana was 8-24 his first 2 years in the NFL. He went 109-23 for the rest of his career....Rodgers walked into a 13-3 situation and has semi-maintained it. He is elite, but he behind Brees and Brady amongst current QBs, and being chased by Goff and Mahomes among the younger fellas....

 

[Augi.T]

Obviously he is elite. That's not the issue. The issue is whether he is better than the best (imo) clutch player of all time, Joe Montana. By the way I also hated the 90's 49ers.

Seems to not be enough room on a list of 10 to include all deserving candidates. Hard to exclude Aikman, Elway, Bradshaw and Starr.

I have Brady over Montana. If Joe would've gotten KC in Superbowl, then the story may be different.

 

[jefakin]

I have Brady over Montana. If Joe would've gotten KC in Superbowl, then the story may be different.

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In an era of newfound quarterback greatness, Rodgers' career numbers are an entire tier higher than the likes of Brees and Brady.

He transcends what the high level of play at a position looks like.

Ketch, you are more tenacious (dare I say stubborn?) than a pit bull or snapping turtle!

 

[Ketchum]

And yet, that doesn't translate to more wins, or championships....

I think you have to be somewhat careful to overlook at all other data and metrics because of team accomplishments.

Joe Montana wasn't a better player than Dan Marino, he just had a better situation around him.

I find it lazy to only focus on winning because so many of those factors are beyond the control of a player. If Aaron Rodgers were on the Patriots for the last decade, do you really think they win fewer Super Bowls?

 

[jdriscoll]

I think you have to be somewhat careful to overlook at all other data and metrics because of team accomplishments.

Joe Montana wasn't a better player than Dan Marino, he just had a better situation around him.

I find it lazy to only focus on winning because so many of those factors are beyond the control of a player. If Aaron Rodgers were on the Patriots for the last decade, do you really think they win fewer Super Bowls?

The Patriots were good with Cassel and Jimmy G. If you take Aaron off the Packers then they might win 2-3 games.

Like when the Colts got rid of Peyton and went defeated. It is a team sport and you can't play both sides of the ball.

 

[DiehardHorn1988]

No. 9 - The List: Top 10 NFL Quarterbacks of All-Time ...​

I don't feel like we've argued about this in a long time.

1. Tom Brady
2. Aaron Rodgers
3. Joe Montana
4. Peyton Manning
5. Drew Brees
6. Dan Marino
7. Steve Young
8. Roger Staubach
9. Brett Favre
10. Johnny Unitas

Do you still have Rodgers this high? Seems criminal at this point.

 

[HuffTex]

Do you still have Rodgers this high? Seems criminal at this point.

Agreed. That guy has lost too many times EARLY in the playoffs, and he had the team to at least make the Super Bowl. His defense played lights out, but AR and his guys could only put up 10 pts.