I’d like to think we can find a coach that will match or do better than our 28th ranked offense and 70th ranked defense LOL. So much for getting better each year
Lincoln Riley to USC
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If you go by points per game Oklahoma was 19th on offense and 57th on defense. That's the only metric I worry about. I could care less how many yards a game you get or give up. Also 8th in yards per play.
I don't know of a single coach who would be disappointed with a top 20 scoring offense.
Oh I see so you’re saying our offense was good this year? Chucklz look dude you’re one of only a few people I know who would sit here and tell me our offense was good this year. Give it a break it’s almost like you’re devastated that I’m not devastated Riley is gone. Defend this big boy: we had a first ever happen our Heisman hopeful caliber qb got replaced by a true freshman after the Heisman hopeful and the coach were booed by the fans and getting beat 28-7 in the RRS. Yes that’s sounds like a good solid offense to me LOL
I'm not in this argument, but I don't feel Rattler was ever a Heisman level QB. I think he was a bigger toddler than even Riley could get to focus.
I think people figured out Rattlers short comings and it was just an O that wasn't as explosive as it usually was.
I think OU will take a dip but I think they will find someone solid. We shall see.
My only hope is that Texas gets better and I think Sark will get it done.........
I think people figured out Rattlers short comings and it was just an O that wasn't as explosive as it usually was.
I think OU will take a dip but I think they will find someone solid. We shall see.
My only hope is that Texas gets better and I think Sark will get it done.........
I'm not saying they were elite but saying they were bad all season is just crazy to me. But when you look at the overall picture they were 8th in yards per play and a top 20 scoring offense.
The fact you are saying the offense wasn't good shows me how much you actually know and understand about the game of football. I'm just simply telling you that OU lost a really good football coach and possibly the best offensive mind in college football (contrary to what you believe).
Many of us on this board told you Rattler wasn't that good all last year but you insisted he was the next great QB at OU. Tell me again how that offense looked in the RRS after Williams came in?
What was Texas defense ranked? Does that give an indicator of how good OU’s offense is? Lol Here’s a metric for you how did OU’s offense look agaist our last 3 opponents, you know the ones with good to decent defenses. How about being shut out in the 2nd half by OSU with all of the pieces in place according to Riley before the year? Tulane squeeker, Kansas squeeker? The 5th year has been worse that any other year in Riley's tenure and it ALL falls on the coach. Coming from a guy such as yourself who understands the game of football, you don't seem to understand much or you are intentionally being obtuse. Doesn't really matter that's your choice. BTW did you send out memo's to ESPN etc. telling them they were wrong BEFORE the season with their preseason hype of Rattler as the Heisman favorite? Just curious since you seem to think you know it all. Sure I was wrong about Rattler, I admitted that already. But guess what I was right about Mayfield and Murray right here on this very board, I don't recall you putting your .02 in on them? Riley was Big 12 good and hit his ceiling in the Big 12. His record indicates that and his playoff record indicates that. End of story
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All I know is what matters in the end is wins and losses. And he was 55-10 as the head coach at OU. That's pretty damn good and if you think there's a better coach out there right now that's going to come in and do the same thing over the next 5 years then I got some ocean front property in Colorado to sell you.
Things are about to get a lot worse at OU for the time being before they get better so you better buckle up.
We know you're butthurt over Rattler cause you stroked him off for a year straight lol.
And it's obvious you're extremely butthurt that Im not devastated Riley's is gone and as a matter of fact I've been very vocal about it right here on this very board this year. Now I was man enough when Rattler got benched to say I was wrong are you man enough right now to admit you're butthurt about my good riddance attitude because it's painfully obvious LOL. Oh and btw I concur Riley at 55-10 was Big 12 good.
I'd take 55-10 at Texas in a heartbeat. Bell, I think that you're just a little bit spoiled, lol. I'm calling it right now. OU will not see that level of success with the next coaching hire that they had under Riley.
You may be exactly right but if you're ok with just winning conference games, Riley is the guy for you
Sooner fans can only hope you're wrong Longhorn MM. Anybody who guarantees that Riley's replacement will match his 85% win rate is at best whistling past the graveyard (so to speak). At worst they would appear foolish.
Did we struggle at times this year? No question. But was that primarily on Riley and Grinch? It seems less likely than other possible causes.
I guess a lot of fans have forgotten that we were pretty bad for about 10 years before B. Stoops came to Norman. That we struggled to win 50% of our games, and that a few Ricky-Williams-led Texas teams ran us off the field during that time frame.
Can OU fans have confidence that their stellar AD will make a great hire? Yes. Castiglione hired Bob Stoops after all, and has made several other effective hires for all of our different sports programs over the last twenty-three years. He's proved his worth and mettle.
But as you pointed out, it is far from a sure thing. Riley leaving is a blow that could take out of national contention for the foreseeable future. We'll see.
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Great points. How many sooner fans do you know that aren't relieved he's gone? Every sooner board I've been the overwhelming opinion is they are fine with him gone. My main gripe is I didn't see any success in the post season coming from Riley. Perhaps a new coach won't get there either but it's been 21 years so another 21 won't hurt me
Let’s also keep in mind that Lincoln Riley was born on 3rd base as Jim Harbaugh would say. Bob stoops went 73-19 with back to back 11 win seasons to end his career, so Riley inherited a program that was ready made. He would of had to screw it up pretty bad not to succeed. That’s not a luxury most coaches get especially for job 1. That’s not what he’s getting at USC will be interesting to see how it plays out
A fair point But it's also fair to say that that five-star offensive players were falling all over themselves to play for him. I don't follow recruiting super close, but I believe our 2022 or 2023 class was rated number one in the country, mostly on the strength of offensive players (at least it was before he left). I agree with you that he inherited a full cupboard, but he has also been restocking it, and then some.
Sure, but it helped that he was the coach of a team that was already one of the best in the country. If he was the head coach of a rebuilding OU like most first time coaches are probably wouldn’t of been the case. Certainly not right off the bat
I can't argue that there were more than a few OU fans who seemed to be fed up with him, but I don't understand it. Guess it doesn't matter now though, LR is gone.
I guess you and I are at least both pulling for Joe C. to generate some Sooner Magic. Kind of funny since we got after each other a little the other day, and now here we are on the same side of an issue. That's life I guess.
That's perfectly reasonable, I agree with you in fact.
And trust me, there's part of me that wants to believe that the win/loss record over the past four years was just as much about the strength of our program as it was about Riley. And that we'll be able to plug in somebody with a good mind who can keep it going. But I'm still pretty concerned at this point. I can hear the celebrating in Orange County all the way here in OK. That bothers me.
And trust me, there's part of me that wants to believe that the win/loss record over the past four years was just as much about the strength of our program as it was about Riley. And that we'll be able to plug in somebody with a good mind who can keep it going. But I'm still pretty concerned at this point. I can hear the celebrating in Orange County all the way here in OK. That bothers me.
This may (or may not) provide a little insight as to why USC needed to finalize the deal with Riley after firing Helton and being in limbo since September. This could also explain why Riley had such a strong hand at the bargaining table. I did a double take at this list (Yes, it is a complete list as per their Rivals website): Ranked 99th on Rivals
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| Name | Pos | Stars |
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| Fabian Ross | DB | |
| Jaeden Gould | DB | |
| Devan Thompkins | DE | |
| Keith Olson | OL | |
| Atticus Bertrams | K |
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That is correct. Their recruiting class is/was terribleThis may (or may not) provide a little insight as to why USC needed to finalize the deal with Riley after firing Helton and being in limbo since September. This could also explain why Riley had such a strong hand at the bargaining table. I did a double take at this list (Yes, it is a complete list as per their Rivals website): Ranked 99th on Rivals
2022
Commitment List
Football
Name Pos Stars Fabian Ross DB Jaeden Gould DB Devan Thompkins DE Keith Olson OL Atticus Bertrams K
That seems almost impossible to me i would think on just name alone they’d get plenty of playersThis may (or may not) provide a little insight as to why USC needed to finalize the deal with Riley after firing Helton and being in limbo since September. This could also explain why Riley had such a strong hand at the bargaining table. I did a double take at this list (Yes, it is a complete list as per their Rivals website): Ranked 99th on Rivals
2022
Commitment List
Football
Name Pos Stars Fabian Ross DB Jaeden Gould DB Devan Thompkins DE Keith Olson OL Atticus Bertrams K
A lot of the California kids that would probably go to USC are going elsewhere. OU, Oregon, Utah, Bama all getting them.
It is very strange for USC to be in UTEP and KU territory. I’ll have to post a snapshot again on Dec 15 to see the post Riley hiring effect
OU will start struggling.
Riley is going to fvcking KILL it at USC. He'll go 12-1 or 13-0 3 out of 5 years and have a playoff spot. He will have every studio in Hollywood shelling out NIL checks, every west coast rapper paying for USC players to be in their music videos-- he'll have the high end restaurants and chefs sponsoring these kids-- and once the fashion designers get involved, these kids will be sporting Gucci, Armani, YSL-- and the fashion industry will be able to tap into a market that has long ignored them-- sports fans.
If Riley does it right--- USC will be a MONSTER.
Within 3 years he'll have a room full of 5 star QBs clamoring to play.
Riley is going to fvcking KILL it at USC. He'll go 12-1 or 13-0 3 out of 5 years and have a playoff spot. He will have every studio in Hollywood shelling out NIL checks, every west coast rapper paying for USC players to be in their music videos-- he'll have the high end restaurants and chefs sponsoring these kids-- and once the fashion designers get involved, these kids will be sporting Gucci, Armani, YSL-- and the fashion industry will be able to tap into a market that has long ignored them-- sports fans.
If Riley does it right--- USC will be a MONSTER.
Within 3 years he'll have a room full of 5 star QBs clamoring to play.
No school is going to have a room full of 5 star anything. Not in the era of the transfer portal and guys wanting to play. Already happening a bit at Bama
You watch. He'll point to Baker, Kyler, Hurts, and Rattler-- Rattler will be the "don't be like this guy" example of how NOT to get into the NFL.
Those kids will be happy to start 1 or 2 years and go pro. The NIL contracts for those kids will keep them fat and happy.
This.
It will be the Pete Carrol regime on steroids and now legal. Those teams with Bush and Leinart were rockstars. Remember seeing all the celebs on the sidelines of games?
So Rattler entered the portal and I understand now so has their stud TE Stogner as well.
Which is the way it should be, in my book. You are exactly right about how baker and Kyler started as juniors or seniors. Alabama has also had several quarterbacks start for only one or two years and then go into the NFL. I don’t know how it became a thing for freshman and sophomores to expect to be the starting QB. That used to happen only by chance if a quarterback got injured or went early into the NFL, but hardly ever was an upperclassman beat out. We had our own real life example with Cam Rising transferring to Utah because Sam was going to be the long term starter. Guess what, it is barely this year that he broke into the starting role-same as if he would have stayed (assuming he beats Casey out). There is a lot more to this whole thing, but I don’t want to elaborate more because this is the main point and a QB can learn a lot just by being the back up.
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