Longhorn's Fall Camp Thread

[TheTruthof2018]

According to reports today Ingram continues to shine.
Ingram on offense and Overshown on defense.

Ingram, though, tries too much and looks down field.
This is a natural issue with star high school RBs.
The old anology of when you try to see everything on the field you see nothing but when you see your blocks and the defender ahead of you, you see everything applies to Ingram


Still with that people are complementing his vision and speed

 

[LonghornMM]

According to reports today Ingram continues to shine.
Ingram on offense and Overshown on defense.

Ingram, though, tries too much and looks down field.
This is a natural issue with star high school RBs.
The old anology of when you try to see everything on the field you see nothing but when you see your blocks and the defender ahead of you, you see everything applies to Ingram


Still with that people are complementing his vision and speed

Ingram could be a very good RB. I think that he needs to redshirt and hit the weights for a year though. He's pretty skinny.

 

[TheTruthof2018]

Ingram could be a very good RB. I think that he needs to redshirt and hit the weights for a year though. He's pretty skinny.

I think the coaching staff trust him already.
This is a sign he will play.
He is a solid 200+.
About the size of Toneil Carter.

With the new redshirt rule you never know.
Ingram will never be a player who sticks around for 5 years unless an injury happens.
Watson for an example

 

[LonghornMM]

True. I keep forgetting about the new redshirt rule. I'm pretty pumped about Ingram. From watching him in HS, he needs to add some bulk though.

 

[TheTruthof2018]

I agree

He could top out in college at around 215-220
He could actually become more explosive while adding size.
Never will he be a bruiser. I think if his core strengthens he could be a beast.

He might be skinny but his HS, Carthage, added some meat to his thighs

 

[clob94]

I watched Watson last night for an hour-- old film I mean.

He's shifty, quick, low center of gravity. Definitely not a thumper-- he'd be most effective in a balanced attack. He's not an every down work horse. He can help us.... if he'll ever get cleared.

 

[TheTruthof2018]

I watched Watson last night for an hour-- old film I mean.

He's shifty, quick, low center of gravity. Definitely not a thumper-- he'd be most effective in a balanced attack. He's not an every down work horse. He can help us.... if he'll ever get cleared.

I would like if he was a lot more versatile and could line up in the slot.

I think the OL is the most important thing.
Last report is Tope Imade is pushing Rodriguez as the starting RG.
Hudson has not taken the needed step but Cosmi has.

If you have an above average OL you can run any of the RBs behind them and get a few yards.

 

[bschroed21]

Have any of the young linebackers flashed? One or two injuries in that group and we are screwed unless some new players rise to the top.

 

[TheTruthof2018]

Have any of the young linebackers flashed? One or two injuries in that group and we are screwed unless some new players rise to the top.

Joseph Ossai and Overshown.

Overshown changed positions for now.
Ultimately Todd Orlando will adjust to his strengths.

Meaning a guy like Bimage could play LB if needed.
Or Overshown.
Based on if you want to go bigger or smaller.

 

[TheTruthof2018]

Linebacker

Gary Johnson offered a scare on Thursday but we believe the issue is just a stinger. We're not sure if he'll miss more time.

On a happier note, freshman Demarvion Overshown is earning the type of superlatives Ingram is on offense. If offensive players didn't know already, they do now, keep your head on a swivel when Overshown is around. He officially works with the linebackers now and was already working with the first team on Thursday at Joker in the Lightning Package. He's the spawn of Serena Williams and Kam Chancellor. Along with Joker, he's also repped at Rover which is his future position.

Joseph Ossai is another guy we've heard good things about even going back to his June arrival. He's already been called the B-backer that Naashon Hughes never was. He's smart, versatile, and doesn't miss tackles. Dating back to his evaluation we mentioned he was the perfect fit for B-backer, more so than defensive end, because it highlights his versatility. That appears to be playing out.

It's early for Overshown and Ossai but a wise man once said if a dog will bite it'll bite as a pup.

 

[Longyac]

Ingram could be a very good RB. I think that he needs to redshirt and hit the weights for a year though. He's pretty skinny.

Why? He'll be gone in three years if he's good enough. May as well get some contribution from his first year as we don't have a feature back.

 

[TheTruthof2018]

Why? He'll be gone in three years if he's good enough. May as well get some contribution from his first year as we don't have a feature back.

He is someone Auburn really wanted.
I follow HS FB in East Texas and Auburn was after him because he is a perfect back in Gus Malzahn's offense.
Hand from what I have heard has instituted some concepts of Malzahn's offense.
Even Beck when he was at Nebraska ran an offense similar to Malzahn.

Like with DBs and LSU
The RBs UT are recruiting are also being heavily recruited by Auburn.
Like with Brown and Noah Cain.

 

[LonghornMM]

Why? He'll be gone in three years if he's good enough. May as well get some contribution from his first year as we don't have a feature back.

My thinking is that he's kind of skinny and could use a year in the strength and conditioning program. I'd like to see what he looks like now and what weight he is.

 

[Metcalf #2]

I don't know about you guys, but I'm sick off all this closed off sh*t. I'm seeing camp reports from schools everywhere, but not a goodamn peep from Texas. Just a bunch of watered down goddamn press conferences.

 

[TheTruthof2018]

I don't know about you guys, but I'm sick off all this closed off sh*t. I'm seeing camp reports from schools everywhere, but not a goodamn peep from Texas. Just a bunch of watered down goddamn press conferences.

We will see soon enough.
The word is the offense has closed the gap and not because the defense is struggling but because both QBs are more comfortable maybe because of better OL play

Best thing is the coaching staff is making every player earn their position even Calvin Anderson.

The way Herman claims the QBs are reading the D and changing plays is very impressive.
They believe in this offense and fully understand why certain things happen.

When you have players that can explain the schemes and what to do in certain situations you have a very mature team that will win important games.

 

[LonghornMM]

I don't know about you guys, but I'm sick off all this closed off sh*t. I'm seeing camp reports from schools everywhere, but not a goodamn peep from Texas. Just a bunch of watered down goddamn press conferences.

Herman is very close to the vest on things going on within the football program. Like it or not, that's just he way he is.

 

[TheTruthof2018]

Once Herman wins then we can see why but he hasn't yet so he is still being questioned.

What Herman is trying to create especially on offense can become a Juggernaut because it will be a team capable of moving the ball in so many ways.

More so like his offense at Ohio State than at Houston. He was trying to win fast at Houston to get a big name job.
Here he is creating a program.

 

[ryan_sublett]

Herman is very close to the vest on things going on within the football program. Like it or not, that's just he way he is.

You can get away with that if you win. If not it becomes a problem. We will see which way it goes for Herman.

 

[LonghornMM]

You can get away with that if you win. If not it becomes a problem. We will see which way it goes for Herman.

He's doing it now because he has his reasons for doing so. Not sure why some consider it a "problem".

 

[clob94]

Porter is incapable of holding onto the fvcking football. It's a disgrace.

 

[BringBackRoyal]

We will see soon enough.
The word is the offense has closed the gap and not because the defense is struggling but because both QBs are more comfortable maybe because of better OL play

Best thing is the coaching staff is making every player earn their position even Calvin Anderson.

The way Herman claims the QBs are reading the D and changing plays is very impressive.
They believe in this offense and fully understand why certain things happen.

When you have players that can explain the schemes and what to do in certain situations you have a very mature team that will win important games.

Heard some version of this preseason rah-rah sh*t every f*cking year for the last eight. Still not drinking one single drop of the kool-aid this year.

I’ll believe this team is in a different class from all the others in this wasted decade once they show it on the field.

 

[Metcalf #2]

He's doing it now because he has his reasons for doing so. Not sure why some consider it a "problem".

To be clear, I wasn't saying it was a problem. I'm just speaking as a frustrated, selfish, spoiled brat fan that wants to know shit. Lol

 

[TheTruthof2018]

Heard some version of this preseason rah-rah sh*t every f*cking year for the last eight. Still not drinking one single drop of the kool-aid this year.

I’ll believe this team is in a different class from all the others in this wasted decade once they show it on the field.

Usually I apply the wait and see approach but I have seen this team take on the personality of the coaching staff
From years of experience that is usually a good thing.
Only time I saw that at UT under Mack Brown was the D under Will Muschamp.

If Sam Ehlinger matures this year and stays healthy we will win 10+ games

The offense has named him the leader along with Andrew Beck.
Beck along with Hager are pretty much assistant coaches.
They believe in the staff and lead the team.

 

[TheTruthof2018]

Porter is incapable of holding onto the fvcking football. It's a disgrace.

Tom Herman and the staff let the defense punch the O in the mouth today.
I think he is hoping this motivates the offense for next Saturday to punch the D in the mouth.
From what I heard it seem like the O had kid gloves and the D was playing with full strength

 

[q1w2e3]

Porter is incapable of holding onto the fvcking football. It's a disgrace.

Maybe you are thinking of T Carter? While Porter doesn’t have much juice athletically he has been by far the most reliable blocking, protecting, catching, and holding onto the football lately.

 

[TX1972]

J Gray returned to “full health” but he was never the same.

Full health and college football condition not the same thing. Incidentally, for us ordinary mortals, perfect health is the state of dying as slowly as possible.

 

[oldhorn2]

Carter has been fumbling whereas porter had not been. That said, Porter did coff it up in the scrimmage.

I read an interesting blurb that said Cosmi had trucked Ojamo....They went on to say Ojamo is 16 but by the end of camp they expect Ojamo to be returning the favor. We have to remember that most kids his age are HS sophmores.

 

[Metcalf #2]

Carter has been fumbling whereas porter had not been. That said, Porter did coff it up in the scrimmage.

I read an interesting blurb that said Cosmi had trucked Ojamo....They went on to say Ojamo is 16 but by the end of camp they expect Ojamo to be returning the favor. We have to remember that most kids his age are HS sophmores.

Yeah that dude is a freak. Not too many 16 year olds could compete on this level. If he develops he could be the Orakpo.

 

[TheTruthof2018]

Carter has been fumbling whereas porter had not been. That said, Porter did coff it up in the scrimmage.

I read an interesting blurb that said Cosmi had trucked Ojamo....They went on to say Ojamo is 16 but by the end of camp they expect Ojamo to be returning the favor. We have to remember that most kids his age are HS sophmores.

Ojomo was one of my favorite recruits from last year.
Didn't know much about him as my HS connection in Katy was telling me more about other players.

By October when I spoke to my friend in Katy he was telling me about him.
Looked like he was going to Oklahoma St.
By January he had almost every big time program offer him

Reason why is his quick feet and work ethic.
Kid comes from a great family and rips up school like he does an OL.

He is suppose to be starting his senior year in HS.
Because of this he could RS.
With that this is a player who hopefully stays all 5 years because if he develops correctly he may be gone in 3 to the NFL.

 

[q1w2e3]

After watching Tom’s post scrimmage presser:

-when asked about Daniel Young RB he said he doesn’t wow you with anything but he does everything good and he’s stronger will break more tackles.

- a reporter followed up asking are there any RBs on the roster that have any wow factors. After long pause Tom said maybe Keonte (Ingram)

I thought that was telling. Young and Ingram might be the only backs to count on as plus players until Tom brings in some beasts in 2019/20 classes.

Also, Tom said they were absolutely ahead of where they were last year at this point. And finally are three deep at TE with a fourth (Rob Cummins) coming along as well.

 

[oldhorn2]

the good news....everybody looks great.




the bad news...Adoye and Overshown both got knee injuries in the scrimmage. Davis has a hammy problem...

 

[TheTruthof2018]

There are different grades of MCL sprains.
Don't know what grade Adoye suffered from but they are saying 2 to 6 weeks.

The question now is does Overshown have the same injury.
Haven't seen the conformation of his injury.

Week 1 because of Wheeler's suspension the starting LBs may be
Roach
Ossai
Johnson
Herman said this during the PC yesterday.

Hopefully UT can control the clock.

At least this gives Ossai a chance to shine.
He is said to be the perfect B backer.
Last year Maryland's QB Pirogme made Hughes look like a fool.

Ossai is faster and doesn't miss tackles

 

[clob94]

Allegedly we are tackling much better. No big ding dongs but solid tackling.

 

[TheTruthof2018]

Allegedly we are tackling much better. No big ding dongs but solid tackling.

Actually I think these injuries are probably caused by the OLine playing mean and together

MCL sprains are causes by impact at the knee.

They are football injuries. I have never been around a football team where they do not occur.

 

[Metcalf #2]

Allegedly we are tackling much better. No big ding dongs but solid tackling.

No surprise, the tackling had already improved last year, and we don't need big hits against our own.