So how far down the list do the Aggies have to go to get a coach ?
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How many times has Sumlin even played Florida? Is your argument that going .500 in the SEC and I believe against the SEC west his record is well south of .500 is the equivalent to winning championships in the ACC?
I can agree if you are claiming he won't have the success aggy is hoping for, but I disagree if you think he is the same level of coach as Sumlin.
I don't think he's an upper echelon coach Sumlin or Jimbo, his best years came with JW in hand, Sumlin's best years with JM in hand.... Sorry about the mention of UF, I was thinking they were cross division rival, but that's South Carolina. I do think Sumlin could very well fair on the same side of good fortune coaching at FSU.
Since ND joined in Football in 2013, Jimbo hasn't faced them. They added Pitt and Syracuse in 2013 and Louisville in 2014. He has already lost to Louisville twice 2016 mudholed, 2017.
One undefeated season and one one loss season when they never should have been in the playoff and got mudholed by Oregon, both seasons with Famous Winston!
Thumped by OU twice in 2010 and 2011, Thumped by Bama with team in tact as preseason No. 3 in 2017.
Much like the SEC, they have two games a year versus squads named: Delaware State, ULM, Chattanooga Mocs, Texas State, Idaho Vandals, Nevada, Bethune-Cookman, etc....
They play, NC State, UNC, Wake, BC, Duke, GT, on a normal basis....It's not even close to the comp in the SEC.
Believe what you will. Jimbo has had 3 great seasons 2012-2014.
Since then, they have lost to: GT, Clemson x 3, Houston (Tom Herman), Lousivlle x 2, UNC, Bama, Miami, NC State and BC.
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These arguments are stupid. Coaches are mercenaries. Some may have sentimental ties to certain areas or schools but the vast majority are chasing $$ and egos. Yeah maybe if all things are equal it location may mean something, but all things are rarely equal. With a 5mm+ annual salary does anyone think it's difficult to have quality of life anywhere in this country.
Right on. Have you ever visited Clemson? Has to be bottom 10% of college campuses. But Dabo seems to have made a nice life for himself on his $7 million per year. If bottom line was location, location, location he would be the UCLA coach right now.
Location? Just me, buy why in the world would anyone want to live in LA? No thanks. The Carolinas > LA. No contest.
So if they get Jimbo do they put his NChampionship on the side of their stadium ???
good grief, if they get gundy they're gonna be all over his consecutive wins vs Texas. they're gonna chirp like johnny football himself was slinging touchdowns all over us.
He talked about this on the radio yesterday and is correct. HOWEVER -- why would an Aggie care? Seems like the focus would be on reeling in Jimbo and not obsessing over the views of Longhorns.
Jimbo isn’t a great coach, but he’s good. Probably top 15-20 type. It would be a great get for A&M if they pull it off.
Proof is in the pudding sweetheart. It's not like he's bringing the skins with him... He's a quality get he is simply very similar to Sumlin and will likely produce in the same manner.
So, if he leads your squad to a national title in the next 10 years you can say told ya so. lol
Hell. Les Miles won a National Title, lol... As did Gene Chizik, that's not saying much for Jimbo.
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Whichever one is offering me millions more is where I am living, and pretty much where 95% of coaches are to. This location angle is the equivalent of the academics in recruiting. 95% of the guys out there it doesn't make a difference, but we continue to argue over how much better it is to live in one area over the other like that is part of their decision.
Texas has no income tax. I'm still waiting for a top tier free agent to join the Mavs.
There's not a better coach available. But, it's a money whip just like Chief was a money whip.
Here is the simplicity of it all.
Four Coaches
Four National Titles
Common Ground, elite QB....
Mack Brown - VY no.3 overall pick
Gene Chizik - Cam Newton no.1 overall pick
Les Miles - Jamarcus Russell no.1 overall pick
Jimbo Fisher - Jameis Winston no.1 overall pick
Now, even these four can be separated...Mack and Les played for multiple titles (with several recruiting classes of separation). Gene and Jimbo, next tier down.
Here is the simplicity of it all.
Four Coaches
Four National Titles
Common Ground, elite QB....
Mack Brown - VY no.3 overall pick
Gene Chizik - Cam Newton no.1 overall pick
Les Miles - Jamarcus Russell no.1 overall pick
Jimbo Fisher - Jameis Winston no.1 overall pick
Now, even these four can be separated...Mack and Les played for multiple titles (with several recruiting classes of separation). Gene and Jimbo, next tier down.
That and I am not sure if people realize that the coaches don't have to live on campus. 50 million dollars can buy you a nice piece of land to put your mansion on to forget that you are living in aggyland or LA or whatever place apparently is a dump for various subjective reasons.
All of those guys save Chizik (who sucked pre and post Newton) were incredible hires for their teams. If Aggy gets a Mack Brown, Les Miles, or similar FSU run out of fisher it's absolutely worth it. Miles best years at LSU were not with Russell btw. They won the championship the year after Russell.
Doh, correct, it was Flynn. Further separating them.
Too bad JM didn't lead them to glory in '12. Elite QB play makes up most coaches resumes.
Jimbo has yet to find another and plays a soft schedule.
No but you can start separating them. The next group would be guys like Dabo then getting further into and not going later than the modern era of the late 90's Tom Osborn, Pete Carroll, Urban Meyer..... These are elite coaches. Nick Saban belongs on the top of the list of Bear Bryant, Bernie Bierman, Woody Hayes and the Howard Jones of the World.
It's a big damn deal to win one, but I see the similarity to some being simply no better coach than their field general. Dude, I know the game well.
Without Jameis Winston, Jimbo has nothing.
Well then yeah I agree. Jimbo isn't as good as Saban or Meyer or the other hall of fame coaches you are mentioning. But those guys can't be the bar for a good hire. Fisher has also had good seasons without Winston. Not national championships, but being the absolute best isn't the base line of being good.
That’s what I’ve heard. My brothers in laws live down there. Big time FSU fans. Feeling down there has been all week that Jimbo is gone.
Oregon has offered Willie Taggeert a raise to try to keep FSU away from him to. So it would appear other schools think he’s going as well
My original point still stands, records and skins aside...IMHO. They are getting "basically" what they just let go. He simply has a few skins. If he wins them a national title in the next 10 years, I'll actually be impressed.
The only fools will be those that doubt him I suppose, not those that money whipped him into a fresh start for 70 million and the flock he will tend to should they do more of the same.
Records and skins aside they are basically the same coach. Aside from her weight and looks my wife is basically a model.
Not at all. He's a good coach and by far the best they could do. I'm not sold that he can do what they've money whipped him to do. He had all the leverage and aggy is desperate to matter in CFB.
I'm not sold Herman can win 100 games in 10 season...
It's simply how I view Jimbo.
Jimbo will never go to aggy. If THE University of Texas can't land him, aggy never will! POOOOOOOOOR AGGY! Even if they do he sucks anyway.
Word is Jimbo has burned a bunch of bridges over this shitshow in fla and kids won't be following him to ATM.
FSU losing commits...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.tallahassee.com/amp/907901001
FSU loses two commitments in wake of Jimbo Fisher rumors....+1 more. So 3 tonight
FSU losing commits...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.tallahassee.com/amp/907901001
FSU loses two commitments in wake of Jimbo Fisher rumors....+1 more. So 3 tonight
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