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So how far down the list do the Aggies have to go to get a coach ?

I personally think Jimbo is an outstanding coach he's definitely in my top ten. Hey nc's are hard to win. Some of the coaches mentioned above coaches who people said are average coaches true that. But Jimbo is better than those coaches you listed.

It's possible that he might have lost that competitive edge that you need to win a championship. Maybe a change of scenery will do him some good.

But here's what sticks out to me. FSU is FSU and aggies are aggies. And when it becomes official and he comes it will be far bigger news who FSU hires to replace him.
 
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Herman needs to be in Florida maybe he can get an O lineman or two out of there with most of the state in question. Domanating Texas is great. Don’t be afraid to leave the state though if it can’t get you what you need.
 
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Make that 4...1 more plus below

Uncertainty surrounding Jimbo Fisher's future at Florida State continues to take its toll on the Seminoles' recruiting efforts as two elite defensive backs and a four-star offensive lineman announced Wednesday night that they are no longer committed to the Seminoles.
 
I'm not sold Herman can win 100 games in 10 season..
So Herman won 6 this year, 6 or 7 sounds about right for 2018. That would mean 11 per year for 8 years in a row. That would be a Sabanish 8 year run. Count me in as not sold either.
 
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Wonder if FSU would try to cut Nebraska off on Scott Frost last minuite? Getting a buyout from Fisher allows them to put a lucrative offer out there for the guy they want.
 
Jimbo will never go to aggy. If THE University of Texas can't land him, aggy never will! POOOOOOOOOR AGGY! Even if they do he sucks anyway.
Please troll better. No one is as arrogant or stupid as you are pretending to be. This is a fun board, but play it straight. I'm an Aggie, but don't think it is cool to troll these guys. Most of them are ok.
 
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Wonder if FSU would try to cut Nebraska off on Scott Frost last minuite? Getting a buyout from Fisher allows them to put a lucrative offer out there for the guy they want.
The FSU job would be much easier for sure. Nebraska job is the hardest in the country, when comparing the past to the likely future.
 
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You can't tell me that most coaches wouldn't be interested in the FSU job. Are you serious? Once it's official FSU will be the beat job available.
 
Word is Jimbo has burned a bunch of bridges over this shitshow in fla and kids won't be following him to ATM.

FSU losing commits...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.tallahassee.com/amp/907901001

FSU loses two commitments in wake of Jimbo Fisher rumors....+1 more. So 3 tonight

This sounds about right to me. FSU is tired of Jimbo holding them hostage for more money every year. Their relationship is not fixable at this point. It will be funny when he starts doing this to aggy.
 
So Herman won 6 this year, 6 or 7 sounds about right for 2018. That would mean 11 per year for 8 years in a row. That would be a Sabanish 8 year run. Count me in as not sold either.
That would include all wins obtainable and yep, that's the point...it's going to be tough to satisfy our fan base after Mack pulled that off.
 
That would include all wins obtainable and yep, that's the point...it's going to be tough to satisfy our fan base after Mack pulled that off.

I’ll be the first to call out unrealistic expectations of the fan base when we reach that point. Herman has to start getting to 8 wins on a consistent basis though to get there. Right now expectations are higher than 6-6 which is more than fair. The kind of consistency Mack had forva time is once in a generation type stuff, but gotta be better than we are now.
 
i think jimbo is a good coach. but i can tell you my gut reaction when he was mentioned during our search when charlie was hired-- i was hoping we didn't get him because he's slimy. whatever that means. but i was used to mack, and no matter what happened on the field, i knew mack wouldn't make me ashamed to be a Longhorn fan. Charlie didn't either, to his credit. and RC was the same way for aggie. i don't know about herman yet, but again my gut with jimbo is he would. sometimes it's not all about what happens on the field.
 
Lets see if Herman can win a few bowl games before we worry about his possible 10 year record.
 
FSU telling Jimbo to sh!t or get off the pot.

http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...r-urged-make-decision-florida-state-seminoles

"Florida State officials are urging Jimbo Fisher to make a decision about whether he'll remain the school's football coach beyond this season or accept a lucrative offer from Texas A&M, sources told ESPN on Thursday.

Fisher, who has guided the Seminoles to the 2013 national championship and three ACC titles, is considered Texas A&M's top target to replace Kevin Sumlin, who was fired on Sunday. ESPN reported last week that several FSU officials expect Fisher to leave and have been preparing to target his replacement.

Fisher, 52, had hoped to wait to announce his decision until after Saturday's regular-season finale against Louisiana-Monroe in Tallahassee, Florida, which the Seminoles (5-6, 3-5 ACC) need to win to extend their streak of 35 consecutive bowl games. That game that was postponed from Sept. 9 and rescheduled to this coming weekend because of Hurricane Irma.

Texas A&M sources have indicated to ESPN that the Aggies are prepared to make Fisher one of the sport's three highest-paid coaches with a salary of more than $7 million, which would rank behind Alabama's Nick Saban ($11.1 million in total compensation) and Clemson's Dabo Swinney ($8.5 million).

Texas A&M's board of regents is scheduled to meet on Thursday, when it could approve a contract offer for Fisher to become the university's new coach. Aggies athletics director Scott Woodward worked with Fisher at LSU, where Fisher -- as offensive coordinator -- helped Saban guide the Tigers to a national title in 2003.

Fisher, 52, agreed to a contract extension at FSU last December, which increased his annual salary to about $5.7 million, making him the sixth highest paid coach in FBS. If Fisher leaves FSU, he would owe the university about $5 million, or the total sum of the contracts of his 10 assistant coaches who aren't retained by the Seminoles' new coach.

On Wednesday night, three high school prospects who were committed to the Seminoles -- cornerback Houston Griffith and offensive lineman Verdis Brown of IMG Academy in Bradenton, Florida, and safety Israel Mukuamu of Parkway High in Bossier City, Louisiana -- announced on Twitter that they were decommitting from FSU and opening up their recruitment.

FSU officials are urging Fisher to announce his decision to try to salvage their recruiting class, which is currently ranked No. 9 in the FBS by ESPN Recruiting. The early signing period for college football, when high school players can begin to sign national letters of intent, is from Dec. 20-22.

Also on Wednesday night, an FSU fan was removed from Fisher's weekly radio show, after the fan asked Fisher about his loyalty to the Seminoles. The fan told Fisher he used to love the coach's enthusiasm for the Seminoles saying, "I remembered how you would talk about being committed to the program and cheering for the team ... and talking about loyalty to the program.

"So I'm wondering, where is the loyalty to the program, Jimbo?"

Fisher's relationship with FSU's administration has deteriorated over the past several months because of his growing frustration over what he considers to be inadequate facilities, which he says have fallen behind and put the Seminoles on an uneven playing field with Clemson and SEC schools. The school agreed to explore the possibility of a new $60 million football facility, but Fisher has been frustrated that more hasn't been done to build it.

"And those things are a major, major deal. Unfortunately, in this business, when you get into the facilities business, you're never out of it. You're never out of development," Fisher said earlier this season. "Your company can never quit growing. Whether it's that or behind the scenes things, support staff, all that can never happen. It can never go away.

"If it does, people fly by you like crazy. And there's numerous examples across this country. If you don't understand that, you're missing the boat. Now, it all has to be relative to what you can do, when you can do it and everything else. But at the same time, if you don't, it can pass you by very, very quickly."

In a prepared statement to the Tallahassee Democrat on Wednesday night, FSU president John Thrasher said that there are "always personal dynamics in play in these situations."

If Fisher opts to leave for Texas A&M, the Seminoles are expected to consider Oregon's Willie Taggart, Virginia Tech's Justin Fuente and South Florida's Charlie Strong as a replacement, among other candidates"

He gone
 
what's the big fuss about winning bowl games? bowl games, unless they are cfp, are for money, alumni vacations, recruiting, and extra practices. the actual games are glorified scrimmages.
 
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what's the big fuss about winning bowl games? bowl games, unless they are cfp, are for money, alumni vacations, recruiting, and extra practices. the actual games are glorified scrimmages.

Did they stop counting in our record? When did we all of sudden stop needing the recruiting help? So it was just a scrimmage when Tom beat Jimbo in the peach bowl? I could have sworn this fanbase thought that meant something when we hired him. Winning this bowl game is our only shot at a winning record. I'll rephrase if you are hung up on the bowl game institution. Lets let Tom have some winning seasons before we start projecting his 10 year record.
 
A NY6 bowl or a playoff spot is different than whatever bowl we're going to. What do we get if we win...nothing.
 
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What does that get us?

Are you being philosophical and trying to tell me it's just turtles all the way down, or do you need it explained that winning seasons are better than losing ones? What's the difference in us losing 9 games or winning 9 next year. If nothing matters outside of a playoff appearance then those seasons are interchangeable right?
 
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I actually think the bowl games matters a lot more for a 6 and 6 team than a 7 and 5 team. Neither is any good, but a winning record vs. a losing record matters perception wise.

7 and 6 is meh at best. 6 and 7 is embarrassing.
 
I'm saying wining 6 vs 7 and a crappy bowl game doesn't a make a shit in the grand scheme of things. We still have not turned the corner and winning or losing the bowl won't change that. Yes, I would rather we win, but will it really change anything?
 
I'm saying wining 6 vs 7 and a crappy bowl game doesn't a make a shit in the grand scheme of things. We still have not turned the corner and winning or losing the bowl won't change that. Yes, I would rather we win, but will it really change anything?
It prevents opposing recruiters from saying 6 and 7 team had a losing record. Nobody wants to jump on a sinking ship. These kids are being manipulated by every school, why provide more ammunition.

7 and 6 means nothing, but 6 and 7 means you are a loser.
 
Get ready to watch that Missy State DL plow the Texas OL into oblivion in the Texas Bowl. Heck they don't even have a QB now and I beat it's an easy win for them.
 
7+-loss seasons since 2010 in the Big12 and other Texas schools:

OU-0
OSU-0
Baylor-1
KState-1
WVU-1
TCU-2
TTech-2
UT-5 (if bowl loss)
ISU-7
KU-8

aTm-0
UH-2
Rice-5
SMU-5
 
It prevents opposing recruiters from saying 6 and 7 team had a losing record. Nobody wants to jump on a sinking ship. These kids are being manipulated by every school, why provide more ammunition.

7 and 6 means nothing, but 6 and 7 means you are a loser.
We're talking about Texas, they are going to neg recruit from every angle no matter what. This game is only about the kids getting some extra developmental time (good) Bowl swag (ok cool) and a chance to get some bling for everyone including the outgoing seniors (they all like rings).

But it's meaningless, game wise unless you're in the big money bowls or a chance at a title. It's truly, a participation ribbon.
 
I'm saying wining 6 vs 7 and a crappy bowl game doesn't a make a shit in the grand scheme of things. We still have not turned the corner and winning or losing the bowl won't change that. Yes, I would rather we win, but will it really change anything?

We aren't going to go 6-7 one year and playoff berth the next. There is going to be a few steps in between that we have to hit as well. One of those steps is actually winning more games than you lose. That doesn't mean if it happens we are on our way, but it's certainly something this team needs to accomplish considering it should be the easiest of the boxes to check off. This would be our 4th losing season in a row. That's means we almost have a complete roster of players who have never had a winning season.

I think the bowl system sucks as well, but it's here and it certainly has the potential to hurt us. Yeah it's easy to say that it's a crap bowl game so it means nothing when we all figure we are about to get our teeth kicked in, but if for some reason we were capable of being the ones kicking someone's teeth in we might just feel a little different.
 
Man. If it’s that bad FSU almost for sure has to hire Frost, Taggert or Strong. Probably the only three guys available with the recruiting chops and Florida ties to give them any sort of class in 2018.

If I was their AD I’d be on the phone with Frost’s reps to see what I had to do to keep him out of Lincon.

If I were Frost I’d hang out and see what happens. FSU is going to want you. If they hire Taggert Oregon is going to want you as well. Your gonna be getting paid my man.
 
Fisher already has the aggie ethic and should fit right in. I am less worried about now about him just because all of the recruits bashing him. He wont help at all.
 
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