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I guess everyone here realized COVID is real

Clob94. people in CA especially southern CA and Orange County ignored the wearing masks. And. now CA is trending upwards and of control. And now in Orange County they've announced that they will open schools and students will not be required to wear masks or do social distancing. One last thing. LA and OC have by far the highest number of reported cases in CA.

A couple of things. There is no and never has been a second wave. Were still in the first there were 77000 reported cases last Tuesday the highest one day total so far.

A final thought about CA. When you govern a state with 40 million people and most of them ignore wearing masks you're going to have the mess you have. Let me tell you something Clob94. My granddaughter works at Safeway and last week it was her turn to stand at the door and turn away customers who weren't wearing masks and customers cussed her and called her names. It upset her so bad she left work early and didn't go back for a few days. She's barely 18 and grown adults disregarded her and to many people out here do.

People just wear the. *ucking masks quit complaining, quit arguing, and the sooner we all do the sooner it will be over and we can get back to normal.

That’s a good little sheeple.
 
Clob94. people in CA especially southern CA and Orange County ignored the wearing masks. And. now CA is trending upwards and of control. And now in Orange County they've announced that they will open schools and students will not be required to wear masks or do social distancing. One last thing. LA and OC have by far the highest number of reported cases in CA.

A couple of things. There is no and never has been a second wave. Were still in the first there were 77000 reported cases last Tuesday the highest one day total so far.

A final thought about CA. When you govern a state with 40 million people and most of them ignore wearing masks you're going to have the mess you have. Let me tell you something Clob94. My granddaughter works at Safeway and last week it was her turn to stand at the door and turn away customers who weren't wearing masks and customers cussed her and called her names. It upset her so bad she left work early and didn't go back for a few days. She's barely 18 and grown adults disregarded her and to many people out here do.

People just wear the. *ucking masks quit complaining, quit arguing, and the sooner we all do the sooner it will be over and we can get back to normal.

No offense to your granddaughter but why would any adult that already has their mind made up about and issue take orders from an 18 year old. That's stupid for the store to put her in that spot. When I go to HEB there are very few people who refuse to wear a mask and they are not hassled. They allow them to shop and do not create a scene. Turning people away is just asking for trouble and accomplishes nothing.
 
Clob94. people in CA especially southern CA and Orange County ignored the wearing masks. And. now CA is trending upwards and of control. And now in Orange County they've announced that they will open schools and students will not be required to wear masks or do social distancing. One last thing. LA and OC have by far the highest number of reported cases in CA.

A couple of things. There is no and never has been a second wave. Were still in the first there were 77000 reported cases last Tuesday the highest one day total so far.

A final thought about CA. When you govern a state with 40 million people and most of them ignore wearing masks you're going to have the mess you have. Let me tell you something Clob94. My granddaughter works at Safeway and last week it was her turn to stand at the door and turn away customers who weren't wearing masks and customers cussed her and called her names. It upset her so bad she left work early and didn't go back for a few days. She's barely 18 and grown adults disregarded her and to many people out here do.

People just wear the. *ucking masks quit complaining, quit arguing, and the sooner we all do the sooner it will be over and we can get back to normal.
That sucks for your daughter. They shouldn't put her in that position.
as far as the mask goes-- the Swiss doctors say it reduces spreading by a small %. So does it "help"--- ya... a little.
 

This is from that article:

The death is a man in his 80's who was a resident of a long-term care facility in the city of Dallas. He had been critically ill in an area hospital and did not have underlying high-risk health conditions.

How the f*ck did they tie this death to The Rona.
 
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No offense to your granddaughter but why would any adult that already has their mind made up about and issue take orders from an 18 year old. That's stupid for the store to put her in that spot. When I go to HEB there are very few people who refuse to wear a mask and they are not hassled. They allow them to shop and do not create a scene. Turning people away is just asking for trouble and accomplishes nothing.

different areas I guess....No mask, no entry at Walmart or HEB in our side of town.
 
New Braunfels Sunday paper bold headline declared 5 new Covid deaths in Comal County. In the article it says 4 happened in long term care facilities smh:rolleyes:
 
different areas I guess....No mask, no entry at Walmart or HEB in our side of town.

I'm in a small town, maybe this store doesn't enforce it. Before Abbott's order there was about 50/50 wearing masks. Now it's about 95%. I see a few not wearing them but no one hassles them.
 
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I read the document and understood it to be an order to wear masks when you have guests. That both the residents of property and guests should wear protective face coverings. Not that they would expect families to wear masks when they are home alone. It appears to be for social gatherings, or to protect individuals that may be entering home to perform services, like an electrician, plumber or real estate appraiser, as an example.

Also, I looked up “Castle Doctrine Laws” in the Florida and the only thing that comes up are laws that protect residents from being held responsible for using force to protect themselves from intruders. So, not sure how that applies to wearing facial coverings to help reduce spread of a virus when you have people in your home?
 
Also, I looked up “Castle Doctrine Laws” in the Florida and the only thing that comes up are laws that protect residents from being held responsible for using force to protect themselves from intruders. So, not sure how that applies to wearing facial coverings to help reduce spread of a virus when you have people in your home?


Relax Clob...this right here shows that you have the right to shoot any law enforcement that tries to enter your home to see if you have on a mask....
 
I read the document and understood it to be an order to wear masks when you have guests. That both the residents of property and guests should wear protective face coverings. Not that they would expect families to wear masks when they are home alone. It appears to be for social gatherings, or to protect individuals that may be entering home to perform services, like an electrician, plumber or real estate appraiser, as an example.

Also, I looked up “Castle Doctrine Laws” in the Florida and the only thing that comes up are laws that protect residents from being held responsible for using force to protect themselves from intruders. So, not sure how that applies to wearing facial coverings to help reduce spread of a virus when you have people in your home?

I certainly understand your sincerity and concern but this has gotten absurd. When do I get my microchip in the hand?
 
forget it Nueces.....the chip in the hand would be useful to you. It will never be allowed for that reason. The actual chip will be in the back of your neck where you cant get at it and will be more readily available for the chip readers that will be everywhere.
 
I certainly understand your sincerity and concern but this has gotten absurd. When do I get my microchip in the hand?

I was just trying to look objectively at the Broward County order and try to provide some additional context that might help make sense of the order and not just assume it is some sort of government, tyrannical takeover. Sorry, when I see something posted on a public forum I like to do a little research.

Seriously, and I am not trying to be a jerk about this, but what makes more sense to you? That these local mandates are some sort of conspiracy to take away personal freedoms, or an attempt to try and reduce the strain on local hospitals and staff so they can treat both COVID patients and all other emergency issues?

Per Fox News, the hospital ICU units in this area of Florida are close to capacity. That puts a strain on available COVID treatments, staff, and all other people that need to seek emergency medical treatment, non-COVID related, like heart attacks, car wrecks, etc. If you lived in Florida and had a family member or friend experiencing a medical emergency, you would want them to be able to get help, right?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...e/florida-palm-beach-running-out-icu-beds.amp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/florida-hospitals-max-out-icu-coronavirus.amp

You can also see current hospital capacities here, if you do not believe Fox News.

https://bi.ahca.myflorida.com/t/ABI...link&:isGuestRedirectFromVizportal=y&:embed=y
 
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forget it Nueces.....the chip in the hand would be useful to you. It will never be allowed for that reason. The actual chip will be in the back of your neck where you cant get at it and will be more readily available for the chip readers that will be everywhere.

Meh, women like to shop and are easily frightened. The mask scare is a test run for the mark. Just think, if they tell the females no more grocery shopping, they will take it. It's next. It's the hand in warm climates and forehead in cold.

No way back of the neck. It's much easier for thieves to sneak in severed hands than heads.
 
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No offense to your granddaughter but why would any adult that already has their mind made up about and issue take orders from an 18 year old. That's stupid for the store to put her in that spot. When I go to HEB there are very few people who refuse to wear a mask and they are not hassled. They allow them to shop and do not create a scene. Turning people away is just asking for trouble and accomplishes nothing.

As for my granddaughter I told her to never apologize for doing her job. This is her first job so there's growing pains. And it doesn't matter who tells him not to enter a real man doesn't talk that way to a child. In fact he's the one that's acting like a child. And today when the Comcast people can't came to our home she wore a mask. Everyone please do your part.
 
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Diadevic, the death count in Texas has almost doubled in the last month.
So we aren’t allowed to rejoice that the last 3 days in Dallas we’ve gone from 6 deaths to 2 deaths to only 1? In any other place except an election year in the US this would be treated as great news.
 
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So we aren’t allowed to rejoice that the last 3 days in Dallas we’ve gone from 6 deaths to 2 deaths to only 1? In any other place except an election year in the US this would be treated as great news.

The 1 guy who did was because of Covid.
 
So we aren’t allowed to rejoice that the last 3 days in Dallas we’ve gone from 6 deaths to 2 deaths to only 1? In any other place except an election year in the US this would be treated as great news.

Of course you can can be But the outbreak is hitting Texas hard now. I mean it's like 4 months after the first outbreak and TX is just now getting hit hard. I read there's 11 states 7 southern, 4 western that could be getting hard for the next few months and TX is one of them. I used to monitor how many people died but it's not as important as to how many reported cases and right now AZ, GA, TX, and especially FL, are getting slammed.
 
Of course you can can be But the outbreak is hitting Texas hard now. I mean it's like 4 months after the first outbreak and TX is just now getting hit hard. I read there's 11 states 7 southern, 4 western that could be getting hard for the next few months and TX is one of them. I used to monitor how many people died but it's not as important as to how many reported cases and right now AZ, GA, TX, and especially FL, are getting slammed.

Yeah, we were hit pretty hard by Covid back in Dec/Jan/Feb too...
 
Of course you can can be But the outbreak is hitting Texas hard now. I mean it's like 4 months after the first outbreak and TX is just now getting hit hard. I read there's 11 states 7 southern, 4 western that could be getting hard for the next few months and TX is one of them. I used to monitor how many people died but it's not as important as to how many reported cases and right now AZ, GA, TX, and especially FL, are getting slammed.

Nothing but gloom & and doom. The world is coming to an end. :rolleyes:
 
Of course you can can be But the outbreak is hitting Texas hard now. I mean it's like 4 months after the first outbreak and TX is just now getting hit hard. I read there's 11 states 7 southern, 4 western that could be getting hard for the next few months and TX is one of them. I used to monitor how many people died but it's not as important as to how many reported cases and right now AZ, GA, TX, and especially FL, are getting slammed.

"I use to monitor how many people died but it's not as important as to how many reported cases"

Wow
 
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Of course the number of deaths matters a lot. But the death toll has slowed the last 2 months and at the end of this month it will hopefully less than June.

But the heart of the matter is last week we had the the highest number of cases for 1 day. There is no second wave cause were still on the first.

And I'm the farthest thing from gloom and doom. We're getting. by in our home but that's about it. We have to be very careful with our money. We also wanted to move but there's almost nothing available on the market right and that's because of covid 19. Myself and my family are getting as hard hit as anyone else.
 
As for my granddaughter I told her to never apologize for doing her job. This is her first job so there's growing pains. And it doesn't matter who tells him not to enter a real man doesn't talk that way to a child. In fact he's the one that's acting like a child. And today when the Comcast people can't came to our home she wore a mask. Everyone please do your part.

Totally agree, no one should be treated that way for doing their job. I meant that it was a stupid decision for the store to send an 18 year old girl to confront people.
 
Of course the number of deaths matters a lot. But the death toll has slowed the last 2 months and at the end of this month it will hopefully less than June.

But the heart of the matter is last week we had the the highest number of cases for 1 day. There is no second wave cause were still on the first.

And I'm the farthest thing from gloom and doom. We're getting. by in our home but that's about it. We have to be very careful with our money. We also wanted to move but there's almost nothing available on the market right and that's because of covid 19. Myself and my family are getting as hard hit as anyone else.
Take away that guaranteed check you’re getting every month like millions who’ve lost their job and you and all libs change their tune on a dime about covid.
 
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