What about Mack's history at Texas would have made you think he'd lose 7 games in 2010? It happens. The team in 2021 wasn't good and we as a program weren't getting better under Herman.
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Ok so you’re not answering the question. The team was 7-3 and probably should’ve been 9-2 if not for a fumble on the goal line against TCU and KU game getting cancelled. Last time I checked that’s improvement over the 2019 season. Sark took over and we are suddenly 5-7.
Mack in 2010 was a disaster, he was finally forced to fire Davis as a result of what a mess it was. Mack himself would’ve told you he underperformed.
Let’s not pretend like Herman couldn’t achieve these results with the resources Sark has had which Herman didn’t. Hell Sark has almost dropped several games this year in which the talent advantage was so significant it would’ve been criminal to lose. I’m happy we are 10-1 but good grief Sark is no coaching x-factor
This year is going to prove that out of conference wins early in September over good teams like Bama, have no impact or value at the end of the season.
I bring this up because I think it's absolutely absurd we are keeping the Michigan and Ohio State games the next few years.
There's a reason Georgia doesn't do this...
I bring this up because I think it's absolutely absurd we are keeping the Michigan and Ohio State games the next few years.
There's a reason Georgia doesn't do this...
Not saying Sark is the coaching x-factor but to imply that Herman was better or incapable of a losing record is silly. Harbaugh at Michigan, Meyer at Florida, Mack at Texas. Losing seasons happen and these guys are way better than Tom. "Sark almost dropped"... he didn't though and Herman consistently did. What resources that existed at the time (NIL wasn't around so it can't be a crutch) was Tom denied by the administration that prevented him from having success?
Herman had never been anything than solid at Texas. He would have retained more of the roster and not lost to some of the slugs that Sark did. It's n the past, though. Let's move on.
I mean NIL is the X-factor. That being said I don’t think Tom with NIL would recruit as well as Sark. Tom appearing to lose the team/administration/boosters and recruits are pretty much why he was canned.
Sark is very much still growing but he’s showing improvement. I thought second half at ISU was tremendously well coached by him.
His last three years, he went 10-4, 8-5, and 7-3 and won all his bowl games.
Yes, he would have had leads.
If NIL had been around when Mack coached he may still be here. Ultimately it was Tom who got Tom fired.
Ketch, you appeared to have serious doubts about Sark and his potential at Texas at the start of this season. I thought that might have changed during this season, but I could be wrong.
The zaniness of 2020 had as much to do with is as anything. We can't act like the TEOY situation wasn't instrumental in his dismissal.
Who didn't have serious thoughts before the season?
Are we playing the pretend game where people act like they knew after two disappointing seasons that things would definitely go like this based on actual things that existed and not just confirmation bias?
How do you come to that conclusion already after a true freshman season? You are obviously taking development into account going forward, so wouldn’t you agree it might be a bit early to write the book on him?
Ketch, your article here is spot on. The job isn't done. If this team goes and drops this game against Tech, then the whole season gets spoiled. We all will have a terrible taste in our mouths. It would be absolutely horrible. That's just the truth. I want this team to play with a terrible taste in their mouth from what happened last season in Lubbock. They need to remember what all this Tech team said about them and all the crap their coach spouted off after the game. I agree, I want to pat this team on the back, but not yet, their work isn't done until they win Friday and then win in the Big 12 CCG. Then I will be as vocal as anyone because I love this team!!! I will love this team anyway, but I won't be doing any favors pumping their win now anyway. We need to let them finish first...I suppose I just use my eyes and then the brain kicks in afterwards.
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6. The Lion in Winter
It's Peter O'Toole and Katherine Hepburn in a 1968 classic about Henry II.
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My parents took my brother and I to this movie when I was 10. I guess they thought I was old enough to get it, but I wasn't. I may have slept through most of it, and to this day have not been able to bring myself to watch it.
It's Peter O'Toole and Katherine Hepburn in a 1968 classic about Henry II.
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My parents took my brother and I to this movie when I was 10. I guess they thought I was old enough to get it, but I wasn't. I may have slept through most of it, and to this day have not been able to bring myself to watch it.
It was shocking - kinda like when 18 Clowns pile into a VW Bug. How did they do that?
Easily one of the most misguided “historical” films ever made. I like Stone. I loved Platoon. JFK the movie was a delusional rant. Multiple viewings ?? It becomes even more absurd.
Read it all. Just a couple of observations from a Longhorn from 1966. Sat in the stands for a lot of good DKR victories. And Freddy and Mack..I suppose I just use my eyes and then the brain kicks in afterwards.
1. Sark was hired to return the Horns to the "Glory Days" of the early 2000's. If "the team" beats ttu, wins Big 12 CG and major bowl (CFP) or not, he will have the Horns way down the path to relevance and on the path to 2004 & 2005. Not there, but it took DKR a couple of years too.
2. Any of the top 10 who lose this week are toast. All conference champs, including the Horns, with the exception of Louisville will be in. OSU/UM, O/W, Ala/Ga winners with UT. A great ending to a great season.
Obviously strictly my opinion.
Been a subscriber, and seen probably more W's than most and hope top see a lot more...... Hook Em. JR
@Ketchum Regarding:
"2. Texas needs to win the Big 12 title, most likely against Oklahoma State.
This was the original goal going into the season and for all of the playoff talk, the Longhorns haven't won a conference title in half a generation. I literally had a 24-year-old viewer on Saturday night tell us in the OB Live post-game show that he was nine years old when it last happened and he's never seen it with his own eyes.
This has to end. If it doesn't, it'll be a massive letdown."
I'm not arguing with you here, but is it really a let down if the preseason predictions were 9 wins? Is that not moving the goal posts? I know I would personally be upset but not sure if it's fair to the team to consider it a massive letdown?
"2. Texas needs to win the Big 12 title, most likely against Oklahoma State.
This was the original goal going into the season and for all of the playoff talk, the Longhorns haven't won a conference title in half a generation. I literally had a 24-year-old viewer on Saturday night tell us in the OB Live post-game show that he was nine years old when it last happened and he's never seen it with his own eyes.
This has to end. If it doesn't, it'll be a massive letdown."
I'm not arguing with you here, but is it really a let down if the preseason predictions were 9 wins? Is that not moving the goal posts? I know I would personally be upset but not sure if it's fair to the team to consider it a massive letdown?
Are you still waiting?
Here’s a clue - No one gives a rat’s ass.
If turns out to be Elko, what does this mean for recruiting? Do they continue to recruit at a high level or take a step back?... It's going to be Mike Elko at A&M. It's always been Elko.
I'm not even disagreeing, the eye test is usually not wrong. He does seem a bit stiff and lacks some acceleration. I guess I just have a bit more wishful thinking that a borderline 5-Star RB can pop in his 2nd or 3rd season. As opposed to just hoping we get a transfer of his recruiting caliber or having to rely on another true freshman in Gibson.I suppose I just use my eyes and then the brain kicks in afterwards.
