Offensive Line play alone. We wouldn’t be nearly as good along the line as we were because Herman didn’t value it. Better defense as well. What was trending up that lets you think Herman would have been better than 8-5?
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At the end of the day it's all semantics arguing over what their records would have been. The real question is if you believe we are better off with Sark in year 3 than we would have been with Herman in year 7? I think we are better off right now with Sark.
Why? What about that team led you to believe that Herman would have been better?
Well people look at these rankings every damn week to try to gauge what the CFP is going to do at the end of the season. Do they not? If we can’t follow the logic with Oregon at 6 now how on earth does anyone have any faith the committee gets it right in 2 weeks when there is likely going to be more controversy than ever before. So ya I’d say I have full faith in the committee to screw it up
Well we led a lot of those games only to completely collapse in the second half. When did Herman do that? We got completely embarrassed against Arkansas something Herman never had happen. While Herman was a bit of prick, his game management skills were a hell of a lot better than Sarks and he didn’t have NIL there to bail his ass out either
We got our ass kicked at Arky because of Herman’s offensive line efforts. And maybe Herman wouldn’t have collapsed i. Second half but his history showed that he wouldn’t have had the leads to lose. He still would have lost however.
What about Herman’s history makes you think he would lose 7 games in a season and miss a bowl game? I’ll wait
I hope the Big 12 commissioner comes to the TT game. I am sure he has told the refs to screw us. They have been trying, but, so far we are still winning in spite of the refs.
I want the Big 12 commissioner interviewed after we lap TT.
I want the Big 12 commissioner interviewed after we lap TT.
What about Mack's history at Texas would have made you think he'd lose 7 games in 2010? It happens. The team in 2021 wasn't good and we as a program weren't getting better under Herman.
Ok so you’re not answering the question. The team was 7-3 and probably should’ve been 9-2 if not for a fumble on the goal line against TCU and KU game getting cancelled. Last time I checked that’s improvement over the 2019 season. Sark took over and we are suddenly 5-7.
Mack in 2010 was a disaster, he was finally forced to fire Davis as a result of what a mess it was. Mack himself would’ve told you he underperformed.
Let’s not pretend like Herman couldn’t achieve these results with the resources Sark has had which Herman didn’t. Hell Sark has almost dropped several games this year in which the talent advantage was so significant it would’ve been criminal to lose. I’m happy we are 10-1 but good grief Sark is no coaching x-factor
This year is going to prove that out of conference wins early in September over good teams like Bama, have no impact or value at the end of the season.
I bring this up because I think it's absolutely absurd we are keeping the Michigan and Ohio State games the next few years.
There's a reason Georgia doesn't do this...
I bring this up because I think it's absolutely absurd we are keeping the Michigan and Ohio State games the next few years.
There's a reason Georgia doesn't do this...
Not saying Sark is the coaching x-factor but to imply that Herman was better or incapable of a losing record is silly. Harbaugh at Michigan, Meyer at Florida, Mack at Texas. Losing seasons happen and these guys are way better than Tom. "Sark almost dropped"... he didn't though and Herman consistently did. What resources that existed at the time (NIL wasn't around so it can't be a crutch) was Tom denied by the administration that prevented him from having success?
Herman had never been anything than solid at Texas. He would have retained more of the roster and not lost to some of the slugs that Sark did. It's n the past, though. Let's move on.
I mean NIL is the X-factor. That being said I don’t think Tom with NIL would recruit as well as Sark. Tom appearing to lose the team/administration/boosters and recruits are pretty much why he was canned.
Sark is very much still growing but he’s showing improvement. I thought second half at ISU was tremendously well coached by him.
His last three years, he went 10-4, 8-5, and 7-3 and won all his bowl games.
Yes, he would have had leads.
If NIL had been around when Mack coached he may still be here. Ultimately it was Tom who got Tom fired.
Ketch, you appeared to have serious doubts about Sark and his potential at Texas at the start of this season. I thought that might have changed during this season, but I could be wrong.
The zaniness of 2020 had as much to do with is as anything. We can't act like the TEOY situation wasn't instrumental in his dismissal.
Who didn't have serious thoughts before the season?
Are we playing the pretend game where people act like they knew after two disappointing seasons that things would definitely go like this based on actual things that existed and not just confirmation bias?
