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Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend: 24 Hours Later...

8-4 means you had multiple garbage losses. I mean, we've now already had one. Ask @Ketchum what he thinks 8-4 regular season does for recruiting to finish out '22 and jumping into the real race for '23 recruits. 8-4 really can't get spun into any other way.

depends on who the losses are .. at the moment unless something drastically changes not sure you could call losing to ZerOU a garbage loss. they seem to be the only Big 12 team with a legit chance to make the CFP. again. if they run the table and they might, would a "weak" Big 12 keep a undefeated ZerOU out of the CFP? i don't think so.

every season sees teams rise and fall. and it will happen in the Big 12 and elsewhere. hard to say yet how weak any conference really is.

i hope ketch does weigh in. i'd like to hear it. i recall he stated 9-3 was realistic. 8-4 isn't far off, just one less win. no one should expect this team to come out and go 10-2 or 11-1. that's too much to expect this year.
 
Of course, it's possible. I don't know that Saturday night answered the question in my mind.
a. Morenz was a heck of a player/talent. His career might have gone a different way without the injury at the end of 1993.

b. The Chrissy stuff is tacky. Be better than that. Mack chose the guy that would eventually be a starting quarterback in the NFL for a playoff team. Let's also not forget that it was his play down the stretch that largely got Texas into the Big 12 title game that year.
I went to several practices back in the Morenz days - he couldn’t read a defense to save his life and it was obvious even in that setting. And yes, Chrissy is tacky, but he was the inferior college QB to Major, OBVIOUSLY so in hindsight. Don’t let the Cotton Bowl where he threw bullets through the car wash without getting them wet (along with Roy Williams actually making an effort - to try out for the draft) color your memories.
 
I went to several practices back in the Morenz days - he couldn’t read a defense to save his life and it was obvious even in that setting. And yes, Chrissy is tacky, but he was the inferior college QB to Major, OBVIOUSLY so in hindsight. Don’t let the Cotton Bowl where he threw bullets through the car wash without getting them wet (along with Roy Williams actually making an effort - to try out for the draft) color your memories.
Just call him Chris.
 
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Bijan had some damn near miraculous runs. The D was living in the backfield and he still averaged nearly 4 yards a carry. That kid is a stud.
This mirrors my viewing as well. I'm not at all sure how posters can seriously pile on Bijan after that game. You could have put 2020 Derrick Henry back there and he's not getting many more yards than Bijan.

And one element that was really missing were the passes to get him the ball in open space. He did a lot of damage on his 4 receptions against Louisiana-La but only had 1 catch against the Hogs. If you think your starting RB has shades of Reggie Bush, he should be getting 5-6 targets - minimum - every game.
 
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Baconbeard said:
B/S

This is among the 2-3 least talented Texas rosters since the early Mackovic days

(Sell) There have been teams in the last decade that didn't have any NFL-level draftable players on the roster. That's not the case with this team. I mean ... 2014-16 happened.

I am picking nits here, but that 2014 team, while shitty, did have some talent, particularly on defense. Awful QB play was the main culprit.

It had the following guys who at least had a cup of coffee in the NFL:
Mykkele Thompson
Jordan Hicks
Quandre Diggs
Marcus Johnson
Malcolm Brown
Kent Perkins
Geoff Swaim
Malcom Brown
Paul Boyette
Poona Ford
Chris Nelson
Hassan Ridgeway
Duke Thomas

Also had guys like Jaxon Shipley, Daje Johnson, Foreman and Jonathan Gray.

I honestly don't think this year's roster has as much talent overall, but it's at least debatable. Every single Mack Brown roster was more talented than this one, as were the latter Mackovic years.
 
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I went to several practices back in the Morenz days - he couldn’t read a defense to save his life and it was obvious even in that setting. And yes, Chrissy is tacky, but he was the inferior college QB to Major, OBVIOUSLY so in hindsight. Don’t let the Cotton Bowl where he threw bullets through the car wash without getting them wet (along with Roy Williams actually making an effort - to try out for the draft) color your memories.

i loved "the Major" for his moxie if i had to pick one word for it. but if you stood there in practice day after day like Mack Brown did and watched them make the same throws side by side it was clear who had the better arm, Simms.

Applewhite wasn't drafted so that tells you the "experts" in the NFL tended to agree with Brown on who was the better qb. yes, he did get signed post-draft by New England but opted to quit football as a player.

i also think Houston made a huge mistake firing Applewhite and if you look at the "Holgersen train wreck in progress" it looks even more stupid that Houston let Tillman Fertitta "hand pick" their next coach.

being filthy rich doesn't make you a football expert. just ask Jerral Jones.
 
Karic should be starting at LT. He is more mobile and a better athlete than Jones. Jones played as bad a game at LT as I have ever seen a UT LT play. I am not sure he should be a starter on our line much less the starter at the most important position.

My opinion:

LT - Karic
LG - C. Jones or Hookfin or Hayden
C - Majors
RG - Angilau or Hookfin or Hayden
RT - Kerstetter

And of course, START Casey at QB.
 
What if he believes the right thing is to play Card because he thinks he's better?
then he’s decided this season is not important or at least not as important as long term development…which means he has to win a conference championship next year or he’s done…and he better hope he’s still big 12 cause that his only hope of doing that
 
It appears the team has somewhat regressed especially OL and WR... I doubt those in charge fired Herman and hired Sark to regress... I wonder if they are questioning themselves at this point?
There's a lot left to be written in the Sark chapter of Texas football but when we hired Herman, I didn't think his resume was much better than Strong's and when we hired Sark, I didn't think his resume was much better than Herman's. I will admit to drinking the Kool Aid on the staff hires for Sark though.

Anyway, it turns out hiring a can't miss coach is really hard. There are only 5 and we weren't going to get Saban, Dabo, Meyer, Riley or Stoops. Every other coach would have been an experiment at Texas.

There's still a lot of time to turn this around and end up being OK, but anyone who honestly looked at Sark's resume had to admit, it wasn't an huge upgrade from what we already had.
 
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(Sell) Let me introduce you to Arsenal TV. (NSFW)
Dammit Ketch, I love your TTFTW, I truly do. But stop forcing soccer into our lives. This was the most rock solid BUY in the history of B/S. I replied via text to no fewer than 3 people Saturday "F*** OFF" after they gave me grief about this loss. I don't walk around singing the praises of UT or giving other people grief when their teams get shellacked. But the second Texas takes one on the chin, even relatives of mine are sending me sh*t sandwiches.
 
O-Line, D-Line. Full stop, end of paragraph.

Moore will get more targets if Arky isn't getting pressure when they rush 3 and drop 8. Card's rating will improve is he isn't running for his life from the snap. Bijan goes instantly to the Heisman watch list if we can give him a chance.

And Arky probably doesn't average 7 yards a carry if our D-Line was better.

Once again we're going to spend every available effort debating the QB position and our LB play when we should be Googling "Which college sends the most linemen to the NFL" and backing the money truck up to that guy.
 
Well well

The ONLY answer is to start CT. Period. That does NOT mean you are giving up on Card. It means you are doing what is best for the team. It is possible CT is simply a gamer. It is possible Card just isn’t ready for prime time. Neither means that Sark’s choice from 20+ practices wasn’t the correct decision based on what he saw. It may simply be that what happens in practice isn’t translating to the games.

By starting CT this week (and letting Card play in Q3 just like the first game) we get to see a much more realistic competition between them. This is a decision not only for the rest of the year, but the next couple years. Getting more data points is the smart thing to do.
I agree with this assessment. The dichotomy that Ketch is painting is for fools, aka a false choice. Casey has been nothing short of impressive in his limited action, including taking over a stagnant offense in the bowl game and turning it into a blow out.

Sticking with Card actually proves that Sark isn't a man of his word, because if this was truly the toughest decision of his career, then that implies he was splitting hairs on who to start and there was not much separation. Additionally, it shows that Sarkisian is more worried about being right/his perception than what is best for the team. Saban would have benched Card before halftime.

Bottom line, we've seen Card in the spotlight and it was bad...it's time to see Casey in that same spotlight. Just like Card had Louisiana as a warm up, so should Casey get Rice as his warm up.

I get so frustrated reading Ketch's simpleton thoughts.
 
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I agree with this assessment. The dichotomy that Ketch is painting is for fools, aka a false choice. Casey has been nothing short of impressive in his limited action, including taking over a stagnant offense in the bowl game and turning it into a blow out.

Sticking with Card actually proves that Sark isn't a man of his word, because if this was truly the toughest decision of his career, then that implies he was splitting hairs on who to start and there was not much separation. Additionally, it shows that Sarkisian is more worried about being right/his perception than what is best for the team. Saban would have benched Card before halftime.

Bottom line, we've seen Card in the spotlight and it was bad...it's time to see Casey in that same spotlight. Just like Card had Louisiana as a warm up, so should Casey get Rice as his warm up.

I get so frustrated reading Ketch's simpleton thoughts.

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Luke Brockermeyer's lack of athleticism and speed felt like a problem on Saturday night. He'll have better days moving forward, but he just seemed a tick slow in getting to the football for a lot of the game.
Brockermeyer is the second fastest linebacker on the team per the catapult data (19.5 mph in full pads). He seemed to be a little slow to read what the offense was doing. Maybe he was just thrown off like most of the defense seemed to be, but I don't think his speed is an issue.
 
O-Line, D-Line. Full stop, end of paragraph.

Moore will get more targets if Arky isn't getting pressure when they rush 3 and drop 8. Card's rating will improve is he isn't running for his life from the snap. Bijan goes instantly to the Heisman watch list if we can give him a chance.

And Arky probably doesn't average 7 yards a carry if our D-Line was better.

Once again we're going to spend every available effort debating the QB position and our LB play when we should be Googling "Which college sends the most linemen to the NFL" and backing the money truck up to that guy.
Isn’t that Alabama and didn’t we just do that?
 
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Brockermeyer is the second fastest linebacker on the team per the catapult data (19.5 mph in full pads). He seemed to be a little slow to read what the offense was doing. Maybe he was just thrown off like most of the defense seemed to be, but I don't think his speed is an issue.
Whatever it was, he wasn't getting home on time.
 
(Sell) I don't know many coaches that are willing to admit being terribly wrong after just two games. It might be the wrong decision, but changing quarterbacks at this stage would make Sarkisian look like he doesn't know what he's been doing for the last month.
Man, idk about this, especially when the guy being replaced is a Freshman. It’s just impossible for any coach to know what he has in a QB until the lights come on. And every UT coach in the last 50 years has faced this. Mack switched several times, thankfully with Vince. And Bince is a good example. Now I’m not saying Casey is Vince, but we all know Vince wasn’t the same player in practice as he was in games.


Buy or Sell: You are good at evaluating QBs?

(Buy) I'll just let the facts speak for themselves.

All I know is that I personally heard you say the words “Garrett Gilbert is the QB Greg Davis has been waiting for all his life”. That should be an immediate disqualifier. 😂


B/S: one of the following combos gets a W last night.

Herman/Ehlinger (If Herman wasn’t fired and Sam stayed another year)
Herman/Card
Herman/Casey

Sark/Ehlinger
Sark/Casey (full game)

(Sell) Last night was an abomination in all three phases of the game, the coaching staff, the overall effort and intensity.

I truly believe Casey would have changed the dynamic of the game. His skill set fits better on an offense that has such a poor OL than Card’s skill set. The blow out was a combination of an offense that couldn’t keep Texas in the game, and then later, a defense that quit. If the offense could have been more productive, it becomes a completely different game.


B/S Last night was tough, but the early returns still show that Sark is a definite upgrade over Herman.

(Sell) No, the early returns do not suggest that yet.

It’s too early to tell. Mack was pummeled by KSU his second game (and I understand, KSU was a more competitive team than Arkansas), and the game was ugly.


B/S: the biggest red flag on this staff from last night, even worse than the woeful game plan and management of the QB situation, was the team’s mental focus. They not only came out flat, but absolutely quit when they got smacked around.

The X & Os and talent deficiencies are really bad, but from a culture standpoint, the total failure to even compete last night was shocking.

(Buy) Bingo. We were supposed to be beyond this team getting its ass kicked to such levels that Charlie Strong's worst teams get mentioned as comparisons.


This does worry me. Still too early to make a judgement on this, but I was never “wowed” by Sark when he was hired. His record as a head coach is not good. Sure, his record as an Asst is great, and sometimes that translates (Stoops) and sometimes it doesn’t (Muschamp). It’s a crap shoot, and the Texas program isn’t in a position to take a crap shoot.
 
Fair enough - my biggest laugh of the weekend was watching CHRIS critique Trevor Lawrence’s performance against the Texans - the irony was delicious!

referring to Simms as "Chrissy" makes you sound like a 12 year old on the school yard .. just sayin'


exactly. what's ironic about an experienced former NFL starting qb critiquing a rookie's performance? or Tom Brady's for that matter.


that's hilarious but i'm not familiar with that scene. what movie is that from?
 
I think one of the best examples of a Head Coach putting team first, over a singular QB's psyche, and at the same time testing his QB's mental toughness was none other than Lincoln Riley benching his 5 star freshman versus us, last year, only to reinsert him back into the game. It served to galvanize the team, no player is more important than the whole, while also sparking the competitive fire in Rattler leading to a much more inspired performance in the 2nd half.

Point being, what Sark did on Saturday is a huge red flag and there are multiple proven head coaches who have faced similar situations and handled it much better.
 
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* Sarkisian's team is watching all of this closely. They'll know that Thompson outplayed Card in Fayetteville. They'll know that if it had been any other position on the field, such a thing would matter with regards to future playing time.

If performance matters for playing time, get Okafor off the field. Two games in a row of simply disastrous play. As bad as I have seen since Tristen Nickelson...even worse. Total embarrassment.
 
* Sarkisian's team is watching all of this closely. They'll know that Thompson outplayed Card in Fayetteville. They'll know that if it had been any other position on the field, such a thing would matter with regards to future playing time.

If performance matters for playing time, get Okafor off the field. Two games in a row of simply disastrous play. As bad as I have seen since Tristen Nickelson...even worse. Total embarrassment.
100% agreement here. Nothing demoralizes a team more than knowing a coaches "pet" gets preferential treatment over producers. Not saying that Okafor is some "pet" or suck up, nor am I saying the backups are better...but I am saying that performance needs to matter more than doing all the things a coach tells you. If you practice hard and suck when the light comes on, you get benched in a good football organization.

In the NFL, the best players play or the coaches get booted. There is no room for ego. People don't like to admit it, but Iverson was 100% correct..."we talking about practice? Practice?"

I do believe you need to be consistently good, before you can be great, but practice is not more important than game time. Performance anxiety is a very, very real thing and it can get to anyone, at any time.
 
Bijan was hit at or behind the line scrimmage 10 times out of 22 attempts. I didn’t believe the offensive line would be this crappy but LA was in our backfield all night as well. So Sark is making the change, says Card was antsy and missed scoring opportunities. He looked antsy to me as well. So now the games are real, Rice is 0-2, we better punish them.
 
referring to Simms as "Chrissy" makes you sound like a 12 year old on the school yard .. just sayin'



exactly. what's ironic about an experienced former NFL starting qb critiquing a rookie's performance? or Tom Brady's for that matter.



that's hilarious but i'm not familiar with that scene. what movie is that from?

It's Simple Jack from Tropic Thunder.

It was my response to being called a simpleton. ;)
 
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* Sarkisian's team is watching all of this closely. They'll know that Thompson outplayed Card in Fayetteville. They'll know that if it had been any other position on the field, such a thing would matter with regards to future playing time.

If performance matters for playing time, get Okafor off the field. Two games in a row of simply disastrous play. As bad as I have seen since Tristen Nickelson...even worse. Total embarrassment.
It was kind of weird that Card was positioned as the only change worthy of needing to be made when there were several.
 
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That stat blew my mind.

17 of the 18 were while he was at Washington and 9 of them were against top 10 teams. Remember back then Oregon, USC, and Stanford were really good and they played LSU and a couple of other top 10 teams. That what happens win you take over a winless program
 
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What is best for the long term future of your program, Casey Thompson or Hudson Card. You are not going to improve the talent on this awful offensive line this year. Do you feel its better at this point to let Card grow into the QB we all think he can be and take his lumps growing up, or do you pacify your fickle fan base and send Thompson out to be in this spot again next spring or worse because Card bails out and your backups are Murphy and Charles Wright.
You do what is necessary to win football games now because you are at the edge of the recruiting irrelevance abyss. Texas doesn’t have anymore “just trust us, we’re building something great” cards to play on the recruiting trail.
 
As far as the QBs go, as @Ketchum likes to say, my eyes tell me Thompson is most prepared to win at this point. When you watch them each play the game, it seems a different level of confidence and aggression exists with Casey. That’s just what my eyes tell me watching the real bullets fly. However, I don’t think Card is done by any means, but in an all time close battle, according to the QB guru, allowing the other guy to have a real opportunity doesn’t look bad, I don’t care what you did in a couple practices with the backups. I’m pretty sure some great coaches have had QB controversies over the years and gone back and forth in an effort to find the right answers for a particular team. I just think that part of your argument is overplayed. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t have some ego tied to the decision, however.

As far as the OL, if there aren’t a couple changes made there, I really need to hear the coaches explain that. You have to at least try a couple different combinations.
 
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Another side item to this QB conversation. Going with Casey and if he does grab the reins and take off, gives Sark a kind of get out of jail card for the Arky game. He can sell it to everyone as kind of a different team moving forward. Doesn’t mean he buries Card, but he can just ride the wave and have somewhat of a plausible aberration for one game.
 
It's Simple Jack from Tropic Thunder.

It was my response to being called a simpleton. ;)

interesting. never watched that movie completely just a few scenes here and there. plenty of over the top performances in that one. need to put it on the "watch" list.
 
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