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Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (About the quarterbacks... Part III)

So you’re saying that if Card never develops to the level Ehlinger did — even though he was a more talented prospect than Ehlinger — that would be totally fine for the program? What would that say about our decision to move from Herman to Sark? Wouldn’t that infer Herman is a better QB developer?
Him developing into a player within two years that's capable of going to the NFL is a major win and plus for the program.
 
Re: #5….. THANK YOU!!!

So many people around here saying this is the worst Texas team talent wise or we have no talent whatsoever. Literally no one, and I mean no one, was saying that before this season. No one is saying this roster is perfect, but it’s also not a 4-4 kind of roster. We didn’t hire Sark because we thought we were in total rebuild mode.

It’s the most textbook example of goalpost moving I’ve ever seen.
Besides the burnt orange kool-aid drinkers, all i read is we suck until we dont. Guess what team doesn't have much talent. Not even close to having good talent. Let Bijan’s average per carry be your guide. This team lacks talent. We want Xavier, Robinson amd Robinson to get all these touches. Pretty sure Sark got two of those dudes here. He was giving a decent team at best.
 
I'm just transparent.
I think your passions are transparent. And that's ok. I can respect your pride in the face of a Pravda move by Bellmont.

But I think it also makes you somewhat unwilling to see, or at least unwilling to emphasize, what's pretty obvious to everyone, and what was pretty obvious to yourself just a few days ago: that Texas has to "fix what's between the ears".

Between the ears, our roster has a problem. It's not a talent problem per se, although our talent is probably a bit over-estimated and more than a bit un-developed.
 
Him developing into a player within two years that's capable of going to the NFL is a major win and plus for the program.

Dodging the question.

If he isn’t good enough to play 2 years and enter the draft, he isn’t going to give us anything that Casey currently isn’t.
 
What’s horse poop is saying this team has a lot of talent because of last years record. So many other variables that are no longer in the equation. You lost some big leaders and nobody has really stepped up. There’s also incompatibility with the offense change. So many things to consider. Using last years record is simply lazy.
When we talked about this exact thing all off-season and used it as reasoning for why this team wouldn't make it to the Big 12 title game.... there were more people saying we were being negative than agreeing with us.

The not enough talent narrative just popped up out of thin air.
 
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I was told this was a narrative that AD officials were looking to push through a lot of channels today.

Level 1.
Solid plan.

Throw the players under the bus to protect the egos of the guys making millions. This is sure to create player loyalty.

Sheesh! Do we still have shallow, fragile ego idiots running our AD?

@Ketchum please tell me this isn’t a CDC generated idea.
 
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I think your passions are transparent. And that's ok. I can respect your pride in the face of a Pravda move by Bellmont.

But I think it also makes you somewhat unwilling to see, or at least unwilling to emphasize, what's pretty obvious to everyone, and what was pretty obvious to yourself just a few days ago: that Texas has to "fix what's between the ears".

Between the ears, our roster has a problem. It's not a talent problem, although our talent is probably a bit over-estimated and more than a bit un-developed.
We're talking about two different things.

This team has issues between the head right now.

I would contend these are fairly new issues specific to this season.

After all, Herman never got his butt kicked like Sark did in the Arkansas game.

Was that herman's fault?
 
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When we look to make excuses, we often find the most favorable and optimistic example possible to justify the excuse in play.

This team should not be 4-4.


I am sitting here trying to wrap my brain around how in a week we will likely be 4-5. This is Charlie Strong bad.
 
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We're talking about two different things.

This team has issues between the head right now.

I would contend these are fairly new issues specific to this season.

After all, Herman never got his butt kicked like Sark did in the Arkansas game.

Was that herman's fault?
Herman had Sam Ehlinger.

And Sam had his issues with accuracy, for sure. But the guy was a competitor of the first rank. He balled out even at USC as a freshman in his first or second start.

The team had talent around Sam, but absolutely had the "between the ears" problem that we still see today.
 
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When we talked about this exact thing all off-season and used it as reasoning for why this team wouldn't make it to the Big 12 title game.... there were more people saying we were being negative than agreeing with us.

The not enough talent narrative just popped up out of thin air.
It’s shown to be the truth. We lack talent at critical spots. Maybe it’s less about talent and more about talent fit but it’s hard to deny that some players are struggling with what they’ve been asked to do. It’s clear the coaches are limited in what they want to do. This was always a 3 loss team at minimum.
 
No, people all day have been acting like Sark inherited a program full of players that have no idea what winning looks like and that the talent was incredibly poor.

That's hogwash. This program was at the pretty good level and couldn't go higher.

It's currently .500.
Both of yall are wrong. Sark is breaking in a new quarterback. Herman had a four year starter basically. Lost their best oline player, lost their best defensive player. You guys should know that. You can’t compare last year to this year. If you want to lets make sure you look at the whole picture.
 
Herman had Sam Ehlinger.

And Sam had his issues with accuracy, for sure. But the guy was a competitor of the first rank. He balled out even at USC as a freshman in his first or second start.
Sam had several games each year as bad as Hudson's game against Arkansas, no?

I'm talking sub 100 games.
 
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People are only talking about talent issues because they look bad. Outside of the OL the talent is easily above a 4-4 level.

Thompson is like the rest of the team outside of a few guys - average talent playing below average to average.
 
If that happens, it'll be the first four-game losing streak since 2010.

Not even Charlie ever lost 4 straight.

But, don't you worry, it's not on the current staff. It's everyone else's fault...

Why don’t you ever acknowledge that we’ve had 3 different coordinators in 3 straight years on both sides of the ball? Remember how much you were yelling to change coaching staffs in 2020?

These type of seasons can happen when you’re constantly firing everybody.
 
It’s shown to be the truth. We lack talent at critical spots. Maybe it’s less about talent and more about talent fit but it’s hard to deny that some players are struggling with what they’ve been asked to do. It’s clear the coaches are limited in what they want to do. This was always a 3 loss team at minimum.
This team obviously lacks some talent in key spots.

This staff's inability to do what Mel Tucker did in the portal has been an issue.
 
The quarterback position is the most important aspect in all of college football.

It needs to be a concern.... always.
Over the last decade, we have had a handful of good QBs who all have gone done down in flames in big games due to the OL issues. We all seem to hope (not a good strategy) for the next VY and Colt. Today, it is Arch or Ewers on OB. I think this mentality is illogical. BUs QB looked fine since his OL and WRs played well. We have what we need at QB and RB. If lanes dont open up, if WRs dont know how to get open or consistently make catches, you dont win games no matter the QB.
 
Both of yall are wrong. Sark is breaking in a new quarterback. Herman had a four year starter basically. Lost their best oline player, lost their best defensive player. You guys should know that. You can’t compare last year to this year. If you want to lets make sure you look at the whole picture.
The quarterback play in 2021 has been better than the quarterback play in 2020.
 
Why don’t you ever acknowledge that we’ve had 3 different coordinators in 3 straight years on both sides of the ball? Remember how much you were yelling to change coaching staffs in 2020?

These type of seasons can happen when you’re constantly firing everybody.
You feel like I won't acknowledge that constant staff turnover is a bad thing?
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Good grief.
 
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If that happens, it'll be the first four-game losing streak since 2010.

Not even Charlie ever lost 4 straight.

But, don't you worry, it's not on the current staff. It's everyone else's fault...
So exactly what games did Sark lose that the previous staff would have won with THIS ROSTER?? Everyone knows he would've lost the TCU game. He couldn’t beat OU nor OSU either. Didn’t win in Waco his last trip there either.
 
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To say that Sark taking over a group of losers is “horse poop” is indeed “horse poop”.

In an interview with Jordan Whittington on this website, Jordan mentioned a “here we go again” attitude when something goes wrong.

To ignore these players fearing the worst when something bad happens is ignoring the facts.
 
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Except that literally hasn't happened.


Sark didn't inherit a losing culture based on the experience of all the players that returned.

He's created one.

You literally just said Sark created a losing culture, which is dramatic and pessimistic.

Sorry for bothering you if my comments are annoying you. I’ll post less.
 
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This team obviously lacks some talent in key spots.

This staff's inability to do what Mel Tucker did in the portal has been an issue.
I genuinely believe they thought they had enough on campus. Not sure if it’s arrogance or not but I’m very interested to see what off season moves are made. That’s going to say more about Sark than what happens during the season.
 
I’m pretty shocked that your No. 1 takeaway from this weekend’s game was about Casey Thompson. You really focus in on his interception/turnovers, which weren’t an issue at all against Baylor. He threw 1 interception that was COMPLETELY not his fault, it hit Moore’s hands.

And who are you to say it was a “hasty decision” that Sark did because he felt pressure to “win now?” Sarkisian has been around a lot of quarterbacks in his life and saw enough to roll with Casey instead of Hudson. I’m going to value his expertise over yours.

But most shocking from @Ketchum is zero acknowledgement that experience matters at the QB position. Flip flopping back and forth never works. Weren’t you covering this program during the Ash/McCoy Eras? Or do you have amnesia? I wouldn’t be surprised by the latter, considering your complete reversal in how you’ve chosen to frame the Herman Era.
The bottom line is one of the two QBs is going to transfer at the end of the year. Who do you want to go onto the next two years with at QB if you are Sark and your tenure at Texas will be determined in those two years. You now have enough data points on Thompson to know what you have. If you are happy, stay with him and let Card transfer without really knowing what you have with him. Worse case scenario for Sark would be for Card to transfer and be really successful while Thompson continues to struggle and Texas goes 7-5 or 8-4 in the next two years. Sark would be gone for sure.
 
All this is bs. Here’s the hard truth: Sark misled us coming in saying we were good
enough to compete for conference championship. CDC misled us in praising Sark’s coaching hires They both lied and should be held accountable For me, I have had enough pain. After nearly 3 decades of bleeding orange every day, the loss to rape U was the last straw. I really can’t take this any more. I don’t believe in Sark I don’t believe anything he says. Same for CDC I am not buying his bs anymore. I really don’t want any more discussion about any of this. I am through for now. Good Bye
 
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Sam had several games each year as bad as Hudson's game against Arkansas, no?

I'm talking sub 100 games.
I would say no. I can remember him struggling to hit open receivers. I can never remember him failing to lead or to rally the team.

The QB ratings can't capture that.

Those teams, without Sam, would have done the easier things more easily, and would have choked in big situations, just like this team is doing. Without Sam, they would have scored 70 on Tech and Kansas--something which was never a threat under Sam--but they would have cratered at the first sign of adversity. Just like they are doing now.

Not Herman but Sam is what made the last three years a marginal outlier in the context of our experience over the last decade.
 
You literally just said Sark created a losing culture, which is dramatic and pessimistic.

Sorry for bothering you if my comments are annoying you. I’ll post less.
This .500 record and three game losing streak is on his watch... no one else's.
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Where exactly does the buck stop for you?

p.s. - you aren't bothering me.
 
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You feel like I won't acknowledge that constant staff turnover is a bad thing?
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Good grief.

You’re not acknowledging it. I haven’t seen anything from you acknowledging this point. And when you were writing apocalyptic posts about “empty stadiums” and “fan revolts” and “recruiting being in the abyss” if Texas didn’t make a change in December 2020, you didn’t acknowledge any of the downsides of staff turnover.

When this move was made, everyone should have expected that this type of season was possible.

You don’t make a coaching change for instant gratification in Year 1. The fact that you’re saying the coaches are to blame for moving our program from pretty good to average is part of you not acknowledging that coaching transitions are not good for a program.
 
You’re not acknowledging it. I haven’t seen anything from you acknowledging this point. And when you were writing apocalyptic posts about “empty stadiums” and “fan revolts” and “recruiting being in the abyss” if Texas didn’t make a change in December 2020, you didn’t acknowledge any of the downsides of staff turnover.

When this move was made, everyone should have expected that this type of season was possible.
Changing coaching staffs every year is bad.
 
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