This is where the NFL should have an exit program for its athletes to help them in situations like this.
Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Addressing the elephant in the room)
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That was the best yet Ketch. All you guys on OB are the best. You are honest..neither pumpers or nancies...and you state the facts as you see them...not as others want you to. I don't always agree, but what the hell this is America and none of us will ever agree 100% on anything.
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I think in most normal situations it would, but the fact that Charlie is viewed as Mr. Core Values makes this something that will have some stickiness.
Well I guess we are getting ready to find out just how much support Strong has with Perrin and Fenves.
Oh man, you HAVE to watch it. It will be remembered forever.
This "supposed fan" never said either way to CS guilt or innocence of the accusation, I did say it was comical that some so blindly stated there was no way possible it could be true.
BS. You have continued to subtlety suggest just that: CS is guilty. Just because you deny doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Here are 2 of pour posts that certainly seem to be pushing the narrative that it is true.
What if it is true?
Today at 9:03 AM
How do you know Mr. Blue is running a BS game and it's not true? It's odd that so many are not willing to accept that CS could be...
Today at 9:01 AM
Good try... but never said he was guilty of the accusations... hence the words "what if" and "how do you know".
Keep spinning your BS.
You are incorrect with regard to my beef being OB reporters who have strong opinions on Strong. My beef is that OB is no different than all of the other sports reporters who criticize -- post-report by others of -- recruiting violations, drug use and other multiple issues surrounding programs like UT. I think that the position that you took in your 10 Thoughts is completely consistent with OB's general position that it has no intention of actually investigating Strong's program at Texas; just like OB rarely, if ever, investigated Mack's program. My real beef is with OB and other sports writers who overlook real problems that athletes and athletic programs have because the sports writers are too concerned with keeping good relationships with the SID or players' agents. I get frustrated with journalism-light.
I kind of feel like Lawrence from Office Space, I get that feeling too, man...you know when you just get that feeling when you look at it, like ...? Hell, I don't know man, I'm just talking out of my ass.
It's was one of the worst things I've ever seen, which kind of makes it one of the best things I've ever seen, but only as a novelty. I wouldn't eat cotton candy everyday because that's just crazy and I wouldn't ever want to see that again. Speaking of cotton candy, what exactly is Bellator? Is it kind of like the traveling carnival? Just anything they can do to get a few bucks? Here's a three legged donkey woman!! Come see the amazing Horatio, the elderly man with no torso!! Oh, and here's a ride that'll make you puke up your candied frog legs...you thank me later!!
Except the issue at hand is an investigation that never takes place, anywhere, unless it's on company time and impacts the job.
You're taking us to task over something that isn't in play almost anywhere outside of TMZ and New York/LA tabloids.
It's hard to take your criticism seriously, if I'm being honest.
I argue with buddies about Wickline all the time. Trash recruiter or not, his coaching ability was never the issue. Matter of fact you would have thought the dude was Jesus Christ: OL coach around here when he was hired. Now he's a bum. The dramatic shift of opinion was always ridiculous...mostly centered around singing the Eyes which was just stupid. These guys are hired guns not alumni. I could give a rat's ass if a coach sings it or flipped the bird and Peyton Manning'd the crowd. Geezus.
Dude was touted as arguably THE best OL coach in the college game coming in. Bad fit for sure but he didn't get instantly stupid at Texas. SMFH.
I'm fine with the Gilbert hire...but I am definitely concerned about a drop off in coaching at OL.
Be thankful you were in your living room. You could have been the idiot that spent $60 to watch that abortion live....like me.
Remember, his handling of the OC search-- with the UT president having to go on a humiliating emergency plane trip to save the hire-- hurt his standing with decision-makers even more post-season. . While the recruiting class helped, this situation, if true, could make the thin ice much thinner.
Charlie did NOT write that comment about the situation, how do I know this? The word JUST was never used and he never has a comment without the word JUST in it somewhere.
If I were him and I did nothing wrong as it relates to the "core values" I would make a stern statement to that fact, by saying something like...there are a lot of rumors going around that I was somehow involved with Ms. Blue, that is totally false and I would never violate my vows to my wife or put my family at risk in that way.
If I were him and I did nothing wrong as it relates to the "core values" I would make a stern statement to that fact, by saying something like...there are a lot of rumors going around that I was somehow involved with Ms. Blue, that is totally false and I would never violate my vows to my wife or put my family at risk in that way.
I like what you are intending here but a mild friendship could be described as involved even though nothing wrong had occured.
I also remember Anwar reporting on here it was "accurate" to suggest some BMD behind the scenes were working against Charlie, and trying to sabotage both hires, and he also mentioned Fenves offered some guarantee to Gilbert Charlie wasn't going anywhere after this year. I don't think Charlie operated without any mistakes, but lets not also pretend he was operating with much support behind him until Fenves stepped in. Hell Perrin was out of town even and Charlie was trying to handle contract negotiations. It was dumb.
I accept you don't take it seriously. Accept that I don't believe you have any justification for acting like OB does a good job of investigating UT or holding it accountable...and I think it is weak to challenge that criticism by arguing that somehow I have focused on whether or not Strong had an affair while at L'Ville. I think you overestimate how much focus I have put on that point. I would be more impressed if you could list for three investigative reports that any Rivals site has made into one of the college programs it covers.
This is an unfortunate consequence of putting your morality on the line as a recruiting tool.
It opens you up to queries that typically would have no traction.
I hope it is untrue, and if so, I hope that once CS legal team confirms it is untrue, he issues a strong (no pun intended) statement that he holds himself to the same core values he demands of his team and the allegations and rumors are 100% baseless.
Bud nipped, aggy hopes deflated, we move on to winning football games.
Other scenario is just another self-imposed hurdle that CS will have to overcome and we get dragged along for the ride.
This either has to stop or it will stop, if you know what I mean.
Not exactly my best moment. The idea of seeing Gracie and Shamrock was a much better idea than actually seeing them. They need to retire....20 years ago.
I was pleasantly surprised upon arrival that Daniel Pineda and Guillard were on the card...and they both lost badly.
One of the most massive Friday night fails in my recent lifetime.
I have a buddy that had press credentials and wanted to be there, but missed it because he was forced to be dad.
He was SOOOOOOOOOOO thankful he didn't make the trip out there to see it, let alone paying 60 bucks. Don't ever repeat that story outloud again.
Here is the Bio of Mr. Blue on Bloomberg.
I am not saying this means anything one way or another at this point, but he certainly appears very accomplished.
You can find pictures of Mrs. Blue and the Winlkevoss twins as well, so maybe Mr Blue wants their cell records too. The wife looks like a trouble maker to me; hopefully Charlie stayed true to those values....
http://www.bizjournals.com/louisville/blog/2013/05/barnstable-brown-gala-draws-diverse.html#i33
Mr. Jonathan S. Blue serves as the Managing Director and Chairman at Blue Equity, LLC. Mr. Blue serves as the Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of The Antilles Group Limited. Mr. Blue oversees all acquisitions, organic growth, and ultimate liquidity events for several additional Blue Equity portfolio companies. He formed BEST (Blue Entertainment Sports Television) in 2005. He served as Manager of Industrial Services at America, Inc. Prior to founding Blue Equity in 2004, Mr. Blue served as a Managing Director of another private equity firm. Since June 1998 until he became involved with private equity investments, he served as a Vice President for Progress Rail Services Corporation. While employed by Progress Rail, Mr. Blue was responsible for the commercial and marketing aspects of Progress Rail Services de Mexico, S.A. de C.V. During his tenure, Progress Rail expanded its Mexican focus by creating a network of facilities and landing corresponding clients in Mexico that mirrored its United States operations. Mr. Blue hired a marketing team and developed an infrastructure with Mexican employees that eventually reported directly to senior management in the United States. Prior to working on the Mexican operations, he served as a Vice President for Railcar, Ltd. For six years prior to June 1998, Mr. Blue served as a Senior Vice President, Rail Services for such companies. Responsible for worldwide business development of the companies' railroad and rail related services, he succeeded in establishing these companies, collectively, as industry leaders. Mr. Blue served as a Managing Director of Cobalt Ventures, LLC. He began his post-college career as a Senior Associate for APM, Inc. He served as the Chairman of Blackwave Media Group LLC. Mr. Blue is actively involved in several other civic and charitable activities and participates in triathlons in the United States. He serves as the Vice Chairman of Lagardère-Unlimited. Mr. Blue has been a Director of Central Bank of Jefferson County, Inc. and Trust and Greater Louisville Inc., since 2008. He serves as a Director of Central Bank and Trust. Mr. Blue has been Trustee of University of Louisville since 2006. He served as a Director of Blackwave Media Group LLC. He served as Trustee of Jewish Hospital & St. Mary's HealthCare, Inc. Mr. Blue serves as Director of the Cardiovascular Innovation Institute and Louisville Downtown Development Corporation Board Member. He served on the Kentucky State Treasurer's Postsecondary Education Prepaid Tuition Trust Fund Board of Directors. He is a recipient of the 2004 Governor's Economic Development Award. In January 2006, Mr. Blue was named the 18th most powerful person in the city of Louisville by Louisville Magazine. He is the youngest person in the top 20 ranking. Mr. Blue is the recipient of the Small Company Business Leader of the Year Award in December 2006. He was named in Business First's prestigious “40 under 40” listing (2003) and as one of Louisville's future leaders in a 2005 profile in Louisville Magazine. A frequent speaker, Mr. Blue was profiled in many national and international publications. His ideas and views have been featured in the Wall Street Journal and New York Times. Mr. Blue is interviewed on Bloomberg Television and CNBC-TV. He has served on numerous professional panels relating to private equity, sports, and a variety of business issues and sectors. Mr. Blue received a B.A. in Economics from the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia and is a 2002 graduate of Leadership Louisville, a 2003 graduate of Bingham Fellows, and is also a graduate of St. Francis High School in Louisville, Kentucky.
I am not saying this means anything one way or another at this point, but he certainly appears very accomplished.
You can find pictures of Mrs. Blue and the Winlkevoss twins as well, so maybe Mr Blue wants their cell records too. The wife looks like a trouble maker to me; hopefully Charlie stayed true to those values....
http://www.bizjournals.com/louisville/blog/2013/05/barnstable-brown-gala-draws-diverse.html#i33
Mr. Jonathan S. Blue serves as the Managing Director and Chairman at Blue Equity, LLC. Mr. Blue serves as the Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of The Antilles Group Limited. Mr. Blue oversees all acquisitions, organic growth, and ultimate liquidity events for several additional Blue Equity portfolio companies. He formed BEST (Blue Entertainment Sports Television) in 2005. He served as Manager of Industrial Services at America, Inc. Prior to founding Blue Equity in 2004, Mr. Blue served as a Managing Director of another private equity firm. Since June 1998 until he became involved with private equity investments, he served as a Vice President for Progress Rail Services Corporation. While employed by Progress Rail, Mr. Blue was responsible for the commercial and marketing aspects of Progress Rail Services de Mexico, S.A. de C.V. During his tenure, Progress Rail expanded its Mexican focus by creating a network of facilities and landing corresponding clients in Mexico that mirrored its United States operations. Mr. Blue hired a marketing team and developed an infrastructure with Mexican employees that eventually reported directly to senior management in the United States. Prior to working on the Mexican operations, he served as a Vice President for Railcar, Ltd. For six years prior to June 1998, Mr. Blue served as a Senior Vice President, Rail Services for such companies. Responsible for worldwide business development of the companies' railroad and rail related services, he succeeded in establishing these companies, collectively, as industry leaders. Mr. Blue served as a Managing Director of Cobalt Ventures, LLC. He began his post-college career as a Senior Associate for APM, Inc. He served as the Chairman of Blackwave Media Group LLC. Mr. Blue is actively involved in several other civic and charitable activities and participates in triathlons in the United States. He serves as the Vice Chairman of Lagardère-Unlimited. Mr. Blue has been a Director of Central Bank of Jefferson County, Inc. and Trust and Greater Louisville Inc., since 2008. He serves as a Director of Central Bank and Trust. Mr. Blue has been Trustee of University of Louisville since 2006. He served as a Director of Blackwave Media Group LLC. He served as Trustee of Jewish Hospital & St. Mary's HealthCare, Inc. Mr. Blue serves as Director of the Cardiovascular Innovation Institute and Louisville Downtown Development Corporation Board Member. He served on the Kentucky State Treasurer's Postsecondary Education Prepaid Tuition Trust Fund Board of Directors. He is a recipient of the 2004 Governor's Economic Development Award. In January 2006, Mr. Blue was named the 18th most powerful person in the city of Louisville by Louisville Magazine. He is the youngest person in the top 20 ranking. Mr. Blue is the recipient of the Small Company Business Leader of the Year Award in December 2006. He was named in Business First's prestigious “40 under 40” listing (2003) and as one of Louisville's future leaders in a 2005 profile in Louisville Magazine. A frequent speaker, Mr. Blue was profiled in many national and international publications. His ideas and views have been featured in the Wall Street Journal and New York Times. Mr. Blue is interviewed on Bloomberg Television and CNBC-TV. He has served on numerous professional panels relating to private equity, sports, and a variety of business issues and sectors. Mr. Blue received a B.A. in Economics from the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia and is a 2002 graduate of Leadership Louisville, a 2003 graduate of Bingham Fellows, and is also a graduate of St. Francis High School in Louisville, Kentucky.
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