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Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Boy, that escalated quickly...)

@Ketchum As others have mentioned, Zaire being the better option doesn't seem logical. What a waste of our talent receivers to have him running the offense. Pun intended.
 
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I doubt McWilliams was hostile to anyone. But it was Mackovic who made the first concerted effort to combat the perception. Recall the story about his first meeting with the team?
IIRC, the AD had a checklist when Mackovic was hired, one of which was to recruit "the inner
city" more effectively.
 
If we get all of those WR's and DB's can you imagine what the practices would be like over the next 4 years? Those would have to be the best classes at those positions in the country and the competition would be insane.
 
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I wouldn't completely give up on Muhammad. If Texas wins big, I could see that one happening. But there's ground to make up on a couple out of state schools right now.
Okay is there something I'm missing? This guy just named 5 guys we're not getting including Overshown and Ingram. 2 guys you and ketch though could possibly commit on junior day and both are very high on Texas.
 
... I'm just not into MLB right now at all. Other than keeping up with the Phillies (.500 through 18 games!), I'm just not paying atten.

One hundred sixty-two games are too many games.

Do you know how exceedingly difficult it is to care about a game when there are 161 other ones? People say the NBA season is too long, and baseball season is almost twice as long.

You can not care about baseball for half of the season and then start paying attention when it matters.

To make baseball less boring every team, by virtue of a new rule, must put a swimsuit model in right field for at least one inning. And she has to be wearing a swimsuit, obviously.
 
Great write-up. LB's are the biggest defensive ? there is . As far as recruiting regarding RB & DT,
you may be thinking a little too Texas centric. TH has already shown no fear of going out of state
for some war daddies. If the team produces on the field this year, I'll wager he gets a stud or two
from OOS.
 
Two things. First, if Hager was really our 2nd best defensive player, to my eyes he was not, it explains why our defense was awful. Until he stops making negative plays, you and Alex need to slow down the hyperbole.

2nd, it is massively unfair for you to write this:

"because Brown had to truly convince talent from inner-city Dallas and Houston that Texas was a school that would look out for them, create an atmosphere that they would be successful...There was literally a generation of hostility"

You really think Texas had a hostile environment for black kids in the 90's? You on that limb? I would call our recruiting in the inner cities ineffective, feckless or even cowardly, but hostile? No, you cannot make that case and it is an insult to try.
a. Hager was one of two Texas players to make All-Big 12 a year ago. Roach was the other. There's only one returning linebacker in the Big 12 with more TFL and sacks on his resume. That's not hyperbole... that's what happened. He does make too many negative, plays, though, that can't be understated. He needs to be moving forward at all times because he does have flaws.

b. Yes, Texas had a massive inner-city athlete problem with Mack arrived. Black parents and grandparents from those areas were often not warmtop and diod not trust Texas, by and large, when Brown arrived in 1997. That is a FACT.
 
@Ketchum very well written and very well thought out piece. You know that there will be a time when we look back on this era and forget what Tom Herman really walked in to. I think recruiting is his natural forte and the tip of the iceberg is just now showing for 2018 and even 2019. There is no stigma to go to Texas, and it seems these youngsters see the future better now. Tom Herman relates and he does that better than any other college coach. The kids get it.
He's having much more early success than Mack did. The circumstances aren't the same, though.
 
What has Malik Ziare done to make you think he's better than Buechele?

Beat a bad LSU team in 2014 in his only start of the season... in a bowl game.

Beat a 5-7 Texas team in 2015... then got injured the next game and didn't play the rest of the season.

Got beat out by a QB that went 4-8 at ND in 2016... after starting the Texas game... that he lost... to the worst Texas defense in history...

He has played THREE FULL COLLEGE GAMES in his career... and TWO of them were against the worst Texas teams in history... And you think he's better than Buechele????????????

insert I feel like I'm taking crazy pills gif...
I think he's better right now, yes.
 
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Yeah, but Ketch lumped Mackovic into that "generation of hostility". The one, apparently, just before Mack.

David McWilliams was not much of a football coach but he is one of the finest men I know. Was he also hostile to inner city blacks?
There's a reason why Bruce Chambers was hired and it had nothing to with his one or two seasons of coaching at Carter before he was hired.

You seem weirdly insulted by this, but this actually happened. I'm not making up something out of thin air.
 
I'm just the opposite of you @Ketchum - I cant deal with any UT football talk right now. I'm all in on Herman, but at this point it's all about what I see on TV this fall

Now, I think you definitely should watch some MLB - the game is changing significantly - the players are way more athletic and the game is getting so much more interesting.
 
I doubt McWilliams was hostile to anyone. But it was Mackovic who made the first concerted effort to combat the perception. Recall the story about his first meeting with the team?
The lack of trust and the hesitation that black communities had with Texas didn't have as much to do with football as it did with the school itself. To pretend that didn't exist when Mack arrived is a complete rewrite of history.
 
He's having much more early success than Mack did. The circumstances aren't the same, though.

I was talking to a buddy about this yesterday....when was the last time Texas flipped an Oklahoma QB commit? I couldn't think of a single one in the last 20-25 years and definitely not in the Stoops era. Maybe I'm just whiffing badly here. Either way I definitely can't remember Texas getting a Gooner legacy QB commit AND yanking one of their QB commits in a month span not to mention in ANY span.

I don't think one of those guys is going to stick but damn impressive work by Herman regardless. I mean staggering impressive in my book.
 
Ketch, why do you consider Shack undersized? He is listed about the same height and weight as McMillon.
He came in needing three years of weight training. He's really not had that. McMillon was able to have most of that time to develop before being inserted into the photo. Go look at Shack's body as he came into school.
 
It didn't work very well under Mackovic.
I think James Brown helped alot in that area. I do remember reading about that negative perception then, but Mackovic's problem was he just wasn't a charismatic guy. That's why he couldn't land top recruits consistently, even when Texas moved to the Big 12.

Did black or white players remember JM favorably after he'd been let go? I don't recall that sentiment.
 
I think he's better right now, yes.
I'd say he's a better fit for Herman's offense, but outside of a good game vs LSU and Texas his resume is limited; he has only thrown 93 total passes. Somebody posted his stats in another thread.

Shane is the superior passer, while Zaire is the superior runner. Which aides the offense better?

Zaire for the running game, no question, but I want Shane throwing to the bevy of talented receivers Texas has.
 
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I think James Brown helped alot in that area. I do remember reading about that negative perception then, but Mackovic's problem was he just wasn't a charismatic guy. That's why he couldn't land top recruits consistently, even when Texas moved to the Big 12.

Did black or white players remember JM favorably after he'd been let go? I don't recall that sentiment.
Mackovic wasn't really a sit on mom's couch and get chummy type. He did fit the upper crust UT alumni criteria
until he started losing to Rice.
 
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Obviously I understand the use of Rivals to measure Thompson and Rising, but 247 has Thompson higher and composite rank is much more narrow between the 2.
 
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Mackovic wasn't really a sit on mom's couch and get chummy type. He did fit the upper crust UT alumni criteria
until he started losing to Rice.
I still remember that one. 1994. 19-17 loss, after upsetting OU the previous week. He opted to start a gimpy Shea Morenz over a healthy James Brown.
 
Obviously I understand the use of Rivals to measure Thompson and Rising, but 247 has Thompson higher and composite rank is much more narrow between the 2.
It would be super awesome if both signed, redshirted and competed for the job in a couple of years. I like both. Will it happen? Likely not.
 
I see a lot of people saying Ingram is not coming to Texas, is he an Aggie or LSU lean?

I trust that Our to coach will find a horse somewhere, can't see why you wouldn't want to play for him.
 
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David McWilliams was not much of a football coach but he is one of the finest men I know. Was he also hostile to inner city blacks?
No one said anyone was hostile to inner-city blacks. Texas had a reputation problem. No single coach or two coaches were responsible. It was an institution issue.
 
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