@Ketchum As others have mentioned, Zaire being the better option doesn't seem logical. What a waste of our talent receivers to have him running the offense. Pun intended.
IIRC, the AD had a checklist when Mackovic was hired, one of which was to recruit "the innerI doubt McWilliams was hostile to anyone. But it was Mackovic who made the first concerted effort to combat the perception. Recall the story about his first meeting with the team?
Okay is there something I'm missing? This guy just named 5 guys we're not getting including Overshown and Ingram. 2 guys you and ketch though could possibly commit on junior day and both are very high on Texas.I wouldn't completely give up on Muhammad. If Texas wins big, I could see that one happening. But there's ground to make up on a couple out of state schools right now.
It's public knowledge.
I've been covering Texas football recruiting for 25 years and the Longhorns have NEVER singed two national top 250 players at the quarterback position in the same year.
Ketch, why do you consider Shack undersized? He is listed about the same height and weight as McMillon.
... I'm just not into MLB right now at all. Other than keeping up with the Phillies (.500 through 18 games!), I'm just not paying atten.
But I like you giving credit to Mack Brown for both the challenges he faced as well as his astounding ability to eclipse them.
a. Hager was one of two Texas players to make All-Big 12 a year ago. Roach was the other. There's only one returning linebacker in the Big 12 with more TFL and sacks on his resume. That's not hyperbole... that's what happened. He does make too many negative, plays, though, that can't be understated. He needs to be moving forward at all times because he does have flaws.Two things. First, if Hager was really our 2nd best defensive player, to my eyes he was not, it explains why our defense was awful. Until he stops making negative plays, you and Alex need to slow down the hyperbole.
2nd, it is massively unfair for you to write this:
"because Brown had to truly convince talent from inner-city Dallas and Houston that Texas was a school that would look out for them, create an atmosphere that they would be successful...There was literally a generation of hostility"
You really think Texas had a hostile environment for black kids in the 90's? You on that limb? I would call our recruiting in the inner cities ineffective, feckless or even cowardly, but hostile? No, you cannot make that case and it is an insult to try.
He's having much more early success than Mack did. The circumstances aren't the same, though.@Ketchum very well written and very well thought out piece. You know that there will be a time when we look back on this era and forget what Tom Herman really walked in to. I think recruiting is his natural forte and the tip of the iceberg is just now showing for 2018 and even 2019. There is no stigma to go to Texas, and it seems these youngsters see the future better now. Tom Herman relates and he does that better than any other college coach. The kids get it.
Top 60ish type player.what is the definition of "national blue-chipper"?
Banned!Where's the Big Sam expansion pack that shreds all of those? Especially the Benteke card...
Sorry, but I had to do it after you failed to mention the two great FA Cup semis this weekend.
maybe. JUCO kids miss more than they hit by a lot.The Juco Chisholm should provide some depth as well at DT
I think he's better right now, yes.What has Malik Ziare done to make you think he's better than Buechele?
Beat a bad LSU team in 2014 in his only start of the season... in a bowl game.
Beat a 5-7 Texas team in 2015... then got injured the next game and didn't play the rest of the season.
Got beat out by a QB that went 4-8 at ND in 2016... after starting the Texas game... that he lost... to the worst Texas defense in history...
He has played THREE FULL COLLEGE GAMES in his career... and TWO of them were against the worst Texas teams in history... And you think he's better than Buechele????????????
insert I feel like I'm taking crazy pills gif...
It didn't work very well under Mackovic.There was definitely the PERCEPTION that UT was hostile to blacks, that persisted into the 1990s. It was actually Mackovic who worked hard to change that perception.
There's a reason why Bruce Chambers was hired and it had nothing to with his one or two seasons of coaching at Carter before he was hired.Yeah, but Ketch lumped Mackovic into that "generation of hostility". The one, apparently, just before Mack.
David McWilliams was not much of a football coach but he is one of the finest men I know. Was he also hostile to inner city blacks?
The lack of trust and the hesitation that black communities had with Texas didn't have as much to do with football as it did with the school itself. To pretend that didn't exist when Mack arrived is a complete rewrite of history.I doubt McWilliams was hostile to anyone. But it was Mackovic who made the first concerted effort to combat the perception. Recall the story about his first meeting with the team?
He's having much more early success than Mack did. The circumstances aren't the same, though.
He came in needing three years of weight training. He's really not had that. McMillon was able to have most of that time to develop before being inserted into the photo. Go look at Shack's body as he came into school.Ketch, why do you consider Shack undersized? He is listed about the same height and weight as McMillon.
I think James Brown helped alot in that area. I do remember reading about that negative perception then, but Mackovic's problem was he just wasn't a charismatic guy. That's why he couldn't land top recruits consistently, even when Texas moved to the Big 12.It didn't work very well under Mackovic.
I'd say he's a better fit for Herman's offense, but outside of a good game vs LSU and Texas his resume is limited; he has only thrown 93 total passes. Somebody posted his stats in another thread.I think he's better right now, yes.
Mackovic wasn't really a sit on mom's couch and get chummy type. He did fit the upper crust UT alumni criteriaI think James Brown helped alot in that area. I do remember reading about that negative perception then, but Mackovic's problem was he just wasn't a charismatic guy. That's why he couldn't land top recruits consistently, even when Texas moved to the Big 12.
Did black or white players remember JM favorably after he'd been let go? I don't recall that sentiment.
I still remember that one. 1994. 19-17 loss, after upsetting OU the previous week. He opted to start a gimpy Shea Morenz over a healthy James Brown.Mackovic wasn't really a sit on mom's couch and get chummy type. He did fit the upper crust UT alumni criteria
until he started losing to Rice.
It would be super awesome if both signed, redshirted and competed for the job in a couple of years. I like both. Will it happen? Likely not.Obviously I understand the use of Rivals to measure Thompson and Rising, but 247 has Thompson higher and composite rank is much more narrow between the 2.
you think Zaire is a better QB than Buechele, don't know what in the hell you've been drinking, but stop.
No one said anyone was hostile to inner-city blacks. Texas had a reputation problem. No single coach or two coaches were responsible. It was an institution issue.David McWilliams was not much of a football coach but he is one of the finest men I know. Was he also hostile to inner city blacks?
No doubt.He was all state at safety and wr but, yeah, he didn't grow until his senior year. Always worth saving a scholarship for late rising seniors
This year, yeah.Texad absolutely needs to find a way to get better recruits on the ol and it looks like the only way to do that is out of state.