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Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Boy, that escalated quickly...)

@Ketchum I really don't see how you think Zaire is the best option for Texas in 2017 - you do realize that if he'd played the whole game against Texas last year, that Texas likely wins that game by 21 in regulation. Goofy take.
I don't know why you would think such a thing.
 
The Malik being a better option stuff is truly bizarre. I'd take him as a backup but he's shown nothing in his career with less than a handful of starts to show he's clearly some better option than Shane
How do you know that? What has Shane showed?
 
@Ketchum As others have mentioned, Zaire being the better option doesn't seem logical. What a waste of our talent receivers to have him running the offense. Pun intended.
Yeah, well some view Shane as being something much greater than he''s proven. Zaire was on his way to stardom before getting injured in 2015.
 
It didn't work very well under Mackovic.

Not sure what you mean by "it" but Mackovic most definitely laid some good groundwork after the more lily-white recruiting of McWilliams. Mackovic managed to pull folks out of DISD and HISD not to mention someone like a Casey Hampton from Galveston Ball and before him JB from Westbrook. Recruits that essentially aggy had been beating us like a drum for years.
 
I'm just the opposite of you @Ketchum - I cant deal with any UT football talk right now. I'm all in on Herman, but at this point it's all about what I see on TV this fall

Now, I think you definitely should watch some MLB - the game is changing significantly - the players are way more athletic and the game is getting so much more interesting.
Oh, I love a number of players playing. I haven't been watching much Sportscenter or MLB tonight.
 
I was talking to a buddy about this yesterday....when was the last time Texas flipped an Oklahoma QB commit? I couldn't think of a single one in the last 20-25 years and definitely not in the Stoops era. Maybe I'm just whiffing badly here. Either way I definitely can't remember Texas getting a Gooner legacy QB commit AND yanking one of their QB commits in a month span not to mention in ANY span.

I don't think one of those guys is going to stick but damn impressive work by Herman regardless. I mean staggering impressive in my book.
I don't think it has ever happened.
 
I think James Brown helped alot in that area. I do remember reading about that negative perception then, but Mackovic's problem was he just wasn't a charismatic guy. That's why he couldn't land top recruits consistently, even when Texas moved to the Big 12.

Did black or white players remember JM favorably after he'd been let go? I don't recall that sentiment.
James was a big step forward for the program. He was told not to go to Texas because Texas would never play a black quarterback over a white quarterback.

James and Ricky were two gifts for Mack, even if James never played for Mack.
 
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Yeah, well some view Shane as being something much greater than he''s proven. Zaire was on his way to stardom before getting injured in 2015.

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I'd say he's a better fit for Herman's offense, but outside of a good game vs LSU and Texas his resume is limited; he has only thrown 93 total passes. Somebody posted his stats in another thread.

Shane is the superior passer, while Zaire is the superior runner. Which aides the offense better?

Zaire for the running game, no question, but I want Shane throwing to the bevy of talented receivers Texas has.
There's zero actual evidence to suggest that Shane is the superior passer.
 
Obviously I understand the use of Rivals to measure Thompson and Rising, but 247 has Thompson higher and composite rank is much more narrow between the 2.
well, I mentioned in the article that Rivals had Rising higher than anyone else.
 
you think Zaire is a better QB than Buechele, don't know what in the hell you've been drinking, but stop.
I don't live in a world where I ignore all of what happened last year on the field from Buechele.
 
He's sorta been on a "anybody but Buechele" kick the last 2 months.
Not true at all. As I just told another poster, I'm just the guy that won't ignore his play on the field last year, especially on the road and against good teams.

Do me a favor. Rank the top three in each category from a season ago.
 
Not sure what you mean by "it" but Mackovic most definitely laid some good groundwork after the more lily-white recruiting of McWilliams. Mackovic managed to pull folks out of DISD and HISD not to mention someone like a Casey Hampton from Galveston Ball and before him JB from Westbrook. Recruits that essentially aggy had been beating us like a drum for years.
I believe he signed one kid from DISD back in the class of 1997. He was not highly rated and did not play much.

Mackovic was not pulling kids from DISD. Man, apparently, I need to write a book because you guys have forgotten true history.
 
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In my day, he bubble gum was hard as nails and you had to bite off a piece and let it "melt" before breaking off the next piece. Still, it was WONDERFUL! Like many here, I threw away thousands of dollars by using my cards on my bike spokes to give it a motorized sound. Would do it all over again -- nothing like the sound of fresh cards on a cool crisp morning! Do they still make clothes pins???

As for the QB recruitment, I sure hope we land both -- but I am also skeptical. What I fear is that we end up with none. Been there, done that )<:

The USC game? Let's see.... @BYU....@Cal... will be there again, but not particularly optimistic. But I'm concentrating on MD; 1 at a time.

Nice job, as always.

Hook 'em!!!
 
I don't live in a world where I ignore all of what happened last year on the field from Buechele.

And thats fair but why arent you applying that same reasoning to Zaire...

maybe because there is not much field action to use...
 
I believe he signed one kid from DISD back in the class of 1997. He was not highly rated and did not play much.

Mackovic was not pulling kids from DISD. Man, apparently, I need to write a book because you guys have forgotten true history.


He recruited McCowen from Dallas Carter. He was a top 50 kid in-state. What he did at Texas matters nothing for purposes of this conversation now does it? How many Carter guys had we signed in the years preceeding McCowen? He also pulled out back to back top 15 kids from Houston Jones. I'm not quite sure what you aren't understanding. I wonder if your book would be in the fiction section.
 
Not true at all. As I just told another poster, I'm just the guy that won't ignore his play on the field last year, especially on the road and against good teams.

Do me a favor. Rank the top three in each category from a season ago.

Who was his coach again?

Tell me one QB who performs well when all the D has to do is protect sideline routes.
 
He recruited McCowen from Dallas Carter. He was a top 50 kid in-state. What he did at Texas matters nothing for purposes of this conversation now does it? How many Carter guys had we signed in the years preceeding McCowen? He also pulled out back to back top 15 kids from Houston Jones. I'm not quite sure what you aren't understanding. I wonder if your book would be in the fiction section.
He was a state top 50 kid for some, but not all. General top 100 level in-state prospect.

Why was Bruce Chambers hired? I'll hang up and listen. You clearly know more about the inside of this topic than I do...
 
I don't live in a world where I ignore all of what happened last year on the field from Buechele.

But apparently you live in a world where you ignore all of what happened in Zaire's career.
 
I cannot believe someone just used Donald McGowan as an example that Texas didn't have inner-city recruiting problems in the late 90s, especially in the Dallas-area.

This place is Bizzaro-world today.
 
But apparently you live in a world where you ignore all of what happened in Zaire's career.
It's my opinion. The player that Zaire was becoming before injury in 2015 surpasses anything I've seen from Shane, a player that still doesn't have full confidence from the current staff.
 
He was a state top 50 kid for some, but not all. General top 100 level in-state prospect.

Why was Bruce Chambers hired? I'll hang up and listen. You clearly know more about the inside of this topic than I do...

The reason Chambers again, has nothing to do with the point about Mackovic. Mackovic started the process of getting us back into inner-city areas. Whether he had perfect it or not is not the point. Not sure what's so difficult to understand.
 
How do you know that? What has Shane showed?
Almost 3k yards passing, 60% completion, and 20+ tds as a TRUE freshman thrown into the fire on a horribly coached team. We know you have tried to pin 5-7 on Shane ( which is ridiculous) but given the circumstances he was thrown into he showed more than you think. He should have been able to redshirt last year but that was never possible.

What has Malik shown over just a couple
Of starts? Outside rushing yards where he's better there his stats as a Soph vs Shane as a true freshman certainly aren't better.
 
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The reason Chambers again, has nothing to do with the point about Mackovic. Mackovic started the process of getting us back into inner-city areas. Whether he had perfect it or not is not the point. Not sure what's so difficult to understand.
"Whether he had it perfect..."

Oh boy.

I never said no other coach took steps towards trying to fix it.

There was still a massive perception problem when Mack arrived and he fixed it in almost no time.

Not sure what's so difficult to understand about that...
 
Almost 3k yards passing, 60% completion, and 20+ tds as a TRUE freshman thrown into the fire on a horribly coached team. We know you have tried to pin 5-7 on Shane ( which is ridiculous) but given the circumstances he was thrown into he showed more than you think. He should have been able to redshirt last year but that was never possible.

What has Malik shown over just a couple
Of starts? Outside rushing yards where he's better there his stats as a Soph vs Shane as a true freshman certainly aren't better.
Please rank Shane's three best games on the road and against teams with winning records. Please list his stat lines as well. I'll hang up and listen.

It's absurd to suggest that any one player was responsible for last season. Let's just focus on the quarterback play, though. That's what matters in this conversation, not making up things that were never said as a way of spinning your perception.
 
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