Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Boy, that escalated quickly...)
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Well yeah that's obvious. What does that have to do with the statement that his career numbers are overrated?
His sophomore season was the worst. He threw 18 interceptions and fumbled half a dozen times or more.
He was good as a Senior, just not anywhere near elite like he was in 2008. But he and Shipley were the offense in 2009. He struggled the first half of 2009, but played pretty well in the second half going into Nebraska. What QB would've played well under that pressure that night?
I always think about the bomb to JK that was dropped that could've put the game out of reach and the near catastrophe with the clock. Texas won and made Pelini mad, so it was win win in the end.
Tons of QBs have completed 70.3% of their passes for 13,250+ yards, rushed for 1600 more, and accounted for 132 TDs, lead their team in rushing, and win 45 games as a starter during their careers.
solid is in the same neighborhood as ok.My eyeball test told me Shane had a solid freshman season last year.
He has a career 155 rating and less than a 3/1 TD/INT ratio.
That isn't really elite of the elite.
Colt had one really special season, one really good one and two very uneven seasons.
That being said, everything added up is real shiny.
He played pretty poorly against the best teams on the schedule that year. He was a near disaster against OU, the Nebraska game speaks for itself and there were games like the one against Texas Tech when he played at 2007 levels.
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You should right a column someday on this. Oklahoma's first black player was in 1956. The first black player at Texas was more than a decade later and it's been reported Royal has acknowledged he received tacit pressure from the BOR not to rush to integrate the football team. Oklahoma had a 40 year head start on Mack and that's a couple of generations that Mack had to prove himself to.
Great weekend for recruiting @Ketchum and good read, things are getting exciting. That project class just absolutely makes you excited about what's in store.
I obviously disagree about Zaire being better because he's started like, 3 games. And of we didn't have the worst DC ever would his arrow be still pointed so high? I mean, he played vs LSU with Golson also at QB. He lit us up (Vance Bedford) then got hurt. I just don't see enough to out that type of faith in him.
That said, didn't really want to disagree so much this week as it was just a fun enjoyable read.
I obviously disagree about Zaire being better because he's started like, 3 games. And of we didn't have the worst DC ever would his arrow be still pointed so high? I mean, he played vs LSU with Golson also at QB. He lit us up (Vance Bedford) then got hurt. I just don't see enough to out that type of faith in him.
That said, didn't really want to disagree so much this week as it was just a fun enjoyable read.
Do you ignore coaching blunders and bad defense? If not for them, I'll bet Shane's record would be different.
I've not been saying he was stellar or played like an all-american. He was steady and solid game in and game out, mostly pretty darn good overall for a true freshman - minus the last two, which he definitely played poorly - as did the whole team.
At this point @Ketchum is just trolling.
That's part of the story, too, but it doesn't absolve the unproven pieces of his game. Thus, my wait and see attitude.
Really hard to handicap. His people keep insisting that Texas is seriously in play and I always kind of question it.
I hear it's Florida at present. They're waiting for the SEC to tweak that grad transfer rule, which is expected.
The receiving corps to start the year was Limas Sweed, Quan Cosby, Jordan Shipley and Jermichael Finley. Sweed got hurt vs Central Florida?
Had Jamal Charles in the backfield as well.
OL was meh. Not great, not terrible.
OL definitely in Colts favor. We have no one from last year of the same caliber as
Shipley and Cosby IMO.
I reckon we'll see. Unlike the Big 12, the SEC does what's in their best interest as a conference.
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If only Jermichael and Jamal had come back for 2008 season... man, it could've been the difference in getting to play Florida for the title.
I don't blame JC for going. I know he had family considerations. JF seemed to be disgruntled with how he was used.
Sweed played one game. The rest of those guys hadn't hit stardom yet. Finley was a wildcard each week.
The line was full of freshmen.
There were all kinds of things related to the Finley deal. Texas coaches were relieved that he left.
Changing that rule right now seems like what's best for Florida and not the entire conference. Why would UGA vote that in?
I hadn't heard that one. I just remember he criticized Greg Davis as he left.
Was he that bad?
Shipley and Cosby of 2007 were not the Shipley and Cosby of 2008/09.
Ulatoski, Tanner, Hall, Dockery and Hix (true fish) was better than this group with Williams as the headliner?
His game against A&M in 2007 was reportedly the lowest graded game by any player in the Mack Brown era. People in the program had all kinds of questions about it.
The good news is that he turned out a really good pro career and came out better for it all the way around from what I can tell.
I agree with you. It seems asinine to me too. The SEC is no stranger to doing some shady stuff.
