Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (FIRE!!!!!!!!)

[Hornbook]

I wonder if Gary Johnson read Of Mice and Men this last week. If he did, it didn't seem to improve his game much.

Herman knows that the cake is out in the rain, now he just has to pull the plug on Beck

Great Jimmy Webb sub reference . Really.

 

[MB-HORNS]

It's fair. That you can't answer the question is why it feels unfair.

Drayton appears to be a huge disappointment

 

[Ketchum]

I don't see any point in keeping Meekins.

If we have to keep Herman, I'd clean house on that side of the ball other than Hand unless the new OC wants his own OL coach.

Fun stuff (and all too predictable).

I was being generous.

 

[HerkieWalls]

I dont mind paying for the popcorn/cookies if the kid sells it. I will NEVER give a parent at the office money for their kid or the mom/dad who speaks for their scout out in front of the walmart. If the kid looks me in the eye and asks me, I pull my wallet out every time.

 

[Ketchum]

Drayton appears to be a huge disappointment

appears?

 

[Ketchum]

I dont mind paying for the popcorn/cookies if the kid sells it. I will NEVER give a parent at the office money for their kid or the mom/dad who speaks for their scout out in front of the walmart. If the kid looks me in the eye and asks me, I pull my wallet out every time.

The dad I dealt with on Saturday was a huge stick in the mud.

 

[jttexas05]

I was being generous.

I know you were, but there's so little room for error and I'm guessing Herman will be insistent on keeping Giles.

Getting rid of all the offensive guys can potentially open up a spot on defense to get him much-needed recruiting help.

Although, it really may not matter anyway if the wins don't start coming immediately.

 

[BevoPhil]

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[jttexas05]

 

[utex1970]

https://wwos.nine.com.au/videos/tennis/serenas-mentor-admits-to-coaching/cjlu6b3gy001s0hli7vtr7fyz

I’ve never appreciated Serena’s inability to admit someone was better than her on the days of her defeats and am disgusted by her outburst in throwing out her motherhood as a reason why she would never receive coaching when there is no way an umpire would give a warning or penalty unless it was blatant. The winner didn’t get the credit she deserved because of the absolute lie that Serena made a fool for herself over.

Here’s a clip of her coach admitting 100% that he was coaching so either he or she is lying and he gets no benefit from lying, while she gets the sympathy of all the idiots that want to feel bad for the greatest female tennis player of all time. Poor poor 225 pound Serena.

Well said! I will regretfully admit that Serena is the best female tennis player of all time, but I have never liked her and she is the only American player I will always root against. Saturday is just another example.....she's simply a whiny bitch!

 

[BRHornz]

To me, we have too much talent on the team to be struggling as we are. CTH is now 8-7; let's see if he and his hires can get us to 9-7, 9-8, and 10-8 before ou. If we are at 8-10 or maybe even 9-9, I think it may be time for Del Conte to have a nice sit down with his coach (it may already have happened). Many saw the writing on the wall with Charlie when he retained Chambers and hired Watson. Deja vu with Beck's hiring and keeping Warehime on the staff after year 1.

I remain unconvinced about Ags until I see a year of it. Yes, they played Clemson hard, to their credit, but they caught a few breaks (INT turns into late TD), and ags do what ags do best, lose... so let's see how the season plays out. I thought they hit a HR with their coaching hire, and they are recruiting like crazy. Add that to ou's consistent success, and we may well be toast. But first things first, beat beatable USC and TCU and go from there. Or, lose to them and sink into oblivion. At this point, after years of supporting the program with attendance and $$$, I'm beginning to be ambivalent. Sad.

Hook 'em!!!

 

[longhornms]

The umpire was way out of line making HIM the story. The whole world got cheated out of seeing Serena lose fair and square. EVERYONE receives coaching. It is an accepted fact on the tour which makes the warning so stupid.

Everyone was the loser. Players, spectators, TV audience, everyone (except the stupid umpire).

 

[BRHornz]

Perhaps you'd like to list a similar situation where a player of Serena's stature received such a punishment in a final.

CNN (and don't hit me with "fake news" BS) documents online clearly the difference in how men and women are treated by tennis officials. How Conners, McEnroe, et al. NEVER were given a game penalty with all their antics, and they give Serena a game penalty for calling the ump a thief? C'mon man...

Hook 'em!!!

 

[Buda Horn]

No. 3 - When your best leaders aren't your best players ...

One of the moments of the Tulsa game that stands out in my mind nearly 24 hours after the game ended occurred in the aftermath of Sam Ehlinger's third quarter fumble, which was a total game-changer. After the play was over, senior captain Breckyn Hager ran over to Ehlinger and seemed to scream something that was part encouragement, part motivation and part desperation.

From one Westlake Chap to another, Ehlinger gave virtually no reaction to Hager's motivation, good, bad or indifferent. In that exact moment, it was hard not to look at Hager trying to ignite Ehlinger and think that he needed to ignite himself as much as anything. On a night when he had two tackles and was as disappointing as any player on the field, I wondered if Hager had a right to yell at anyone, captain's badge or not.

Frankly, it's a stark reminder that the Longhorns have five captains on the team right now (Hager, Andrew Beck, Elijah Rodriguez, Chris Nelson and Anthony Wheeler) that would probably struggle to find playing time for a team competing for a national championship. None of them made a single play of significance against Tulsa and that seems rather important.

Just file this truth away for the future ... if you have five captains on your team and none of them are playing at all-conference levels, your team is going to have a limited ceiling. When your captains are performing at all-conference and all-America levels, your team has no ceiling if it has the right quarterback and coaching staff.

I've been thinking about this since team captains were announced. My quoted post below is what I said immediately following when team captains were announced. It was definitely my first red flag on this season, although I will admit I was really just concerned about Beck, Rodriguez, and Wheeler, and not so much Hager at that moment.

We have a habit of selecting multiple captains each year who either dont start or have no business starting.

This appears to be a sign of a lack of player leadership once again. Hard to follow guys who arent your best players.

 

[Pho King Master]

What time did the USC game end last year locally?

Where was ESPN's Game Day?

What was the highest rated game of the weekend?

What national writers raved about UT's performance afterwards?

Why don't you let the season play out before you anoint aggy as the next Bama. They have a minimum of 3 more losses on their schedule, and knowing that they're aggy, they'll aggy it up in another game and lose 4 more.

Why does it matter how the games were hyped? A loss is a loss. Everyone on this board is acting like aggy just duked it out for 15 rounds with Muhamed Ali in his prime while our game last year against SC somehow didn't matter.

 

[DKR-3rings]

Ketch, give me a break. I didn't hear you giving Texas their moral victories last year. Let's let the season play out before acting like the aggys are something special. Hell, we don't even know for sure that Clemson is. The aggys are going to come crashing to earth and then we'll see how they are. Their upcoming losses IMO are...

Losses will be...

Clemson- Loss already
Bama
Auburn
LSU
Miss St

Then one loss from...

South Carolina
Ole Miss
Kentucky

Wins will be...

Northwest St win already
La Monroe
Arky
UAB


That would be 6-6 and if the lose 2 out of the 3 possible losses they would be 5-7.

 

[Ketchum]

Well said! I will regretfully admit that Serena is the best female tennis player of all time, but I have never liked her and she is the only American player I will always root against. Saturday is just another example.....she's simply a whiny bitch!

That's disappointing. She's the epitome of the American Dream coming true.

 

[Ketchum]

To me, we have too much talent on the team to be struggling as we are. CTH is now 8-7; let's see if he and his hires can get us to 9-7, 9-8, and 10-8 before ou. If we are at 8-10 or maybe even 9-9, I think it may be time for Del Conte to have a nice sit down with his coach (it may already have happened). Many saw the writing on the wall with Charlie when he retained Chambers and hired Watson. Deja vu with Beck's hiring and keeping Warehime on the staff after year 1.

I remain unconvinced about Ags until I see a year of it. Yes, they played Clemson hard, to their credit, but they caught a few breaks (INT turns into late TD), and ags do what ags do best, lose... so let's see how the season plays out. I thought they hit a HR with their coaching hire, and they are recruiting like crazy. Add that to ou's consistent success, and we may well be toast. But first things first, beat beatable USC and TCU and go from there. Or, lose to them and sink into oblivion. At this point, after years of supporting the program with attendance and $$$, I'm beginning to be ambivalent. Sad.

Hook 'em!!!

Understand that I'm not saying the Aggies will be better than 7-5 this year. I'm just saying Saturday was a powerful weapon for them.

 

[Ketchum]

The umpire was way out of line making HIM the story. The whole world got cheated out of seeing Serena lose fair and square. EVERYONE receives coaching. It is an accepted fact on the tour which makes the warning so stupid.

Everyone was the loser. Players, spectators, TV audience, everyone (except the stupid umpire).

bingo

 

[misterpink]

They both needed to respond better than they did, but Serena is the person who mattered yesterday not the chair ump.

Nobody was watching for him.

No Osaka was who mattered. You only win your first grand slam once. They both ruined it. Acting and reacting the way they did is a choice. Breaking a racket is indisputable penalty. She is a sore loser that wasn't handling it well and took it out on the umpire. (remember she was losing at the time) The umpire should've reacted differently.

To say he only reacted the way he did because she was a woman is also subjective. You have no clue why someone chose to react the way they did.

Make no mistake your reaction (not just this scenario, I am talking about all reactions) is a choice and you need to own up to it and stop making excuses. Both of them. Osaka was gracious, and a good example of how you win with class and dignity.

 

[Ketchum]

I've been thinking about this since team captains were announced. My quoted post below is what I said immediately following when team captains were announced. It was definitely my first red flag on this season, although I will admit I was really just concerned about Beck, Rodriguez, and Wheeler, and not so much Hager at that moment.

Like a five-alarm fire.

 

[Ketchum]

Why don't you let the season play out before you anoint aggy as the next Bama.

You're projecting thoughts and opinions that don't exist.

 

[Ketchum]

Ketch, give me a break. I didn't hear you giving Texas their moral victories last year. Let's let the season play out before acting like the aggys are something special.

You're projecting thoughts and opinions that don't exist.

 

[HllCountryHorn]

When was the last time a player was hit with a game penalty in a major final? The answer might be as recent as d yesterday, but I can't remember ever seeing it.

I gather there’s no level of misbehavior or tantrums, short of physical violence, that you feel would justify a third warning (hence game) regardless how abusive it is and no matter how much that disruption is compromising the match and disadvantaging her opponent?

 

[Pho King Master]

lol. k.

This is the article I wrote following Charlie's 14th game. Basically, you just talked out of your ass.

*****

Too many times over the course of the last 14 games, Texas head coach Charlie Strong has stood at a podium, seemingly taken aback by a combination of outrage and confusion directly related to his team’s performance.
Drenched in perspiration and with exhausted patience, Strong usually mentions that the type of losses that create panic in the streets of Austin can’t happen again. As a man that has waited his entire life and fought against a number of barriers to get the job of a lifetime, Strong seems to get the magnitude of these moments.

Not one time have I ever listened to Strong and thought to myself that he was giving me a line or a canned response. To look at Strong’s face in the immediate moments following Saturday’s disaster in South Bend, one could see conviction oozing out of every pore of his body.

Whereas Texas fans were once told by John Mackovic that they would have to take the bad with the good in response to losing to Rice, Strong’s seemingly no-tolerance attitude towards embarrassing losses is refreshing.

There’s just one problem … it keeps happening.

Again and again and again. The fact that humiliating losses have occurred in three straight games dating back to last season’s TCU contest means the Longhorns have become the Miley Cyrus’ boobs of college football, as there’s nothing shocking about seeing them exposed on a large stage at this point. Even worse, you can almost set your watch to its inevitable likelihood.

The thing about Texas fans is they’re a pretty knowledgeable bunch. They get that Mack Brown left Strong a mess similar to Chernobyl. They get that the quarterback situation has limitations. They get that Rome wasn’t built in a day.

What Texas fans will never get is how you could have extra time to the tune of nearly two weeks to prepare for TCU and lose by 38 or having a month to get ready for Arkansas, only to lose by three touchdowns in embarrassing fashion. What they’ll get even less is having eight-plus months to talk about the sting of those losses and the motivation it created, only to see a 35-point loss manifest itself in front of their very eyes.

117-20.

That’s the combined score of the last three times Texas fans have seen their football team play. You’re damn right they have every right to be furious. Hell, I’m ready to yell at myself for no other reason than the mind-numbing angst that fills the Austin air.

When it comes to evaluating talent and developing it, few anywhere are better than Strong, but I can’t yet say the same about his ability to stop assaults from taking place on his teams in sudden fashion. In the aftermath of Saturday’s loss, I think it’s safe to say that the thing that Longhorns
everywhere are dreading the most is the reality that more losses like this one await in the coming weeks and months.

A week ago, folks were scoffing at my suggestions that California would be a very tricky contest because of its superiority on the offensive side of the ball (especially at quarterback) and now there’s widespread fear that Rice is going to give the Longhorns a four-quarter fight … or worse.

Strong’s new reality is a Texas fan base that hates losing more than it loves winning and it’s been losing a hell of a late lately. Its patience is Giuliana Rancic thin. The last thing it wants is to be patronized by words or a lack of inaction.

Less than 24 hours ago, Strong's program seemed on the verge of taking off if aided by the kind of signature win the game with the Irish represented and in the blink of a 38-3 eye, it is stranded in the middle of crisis.

Welcome to this job, Charlie. I’m not telling you it’s fair, I’m just telling you where things stand.

Everyone understands that this isn’t a championship-level program, but the beatings feel like the worst Quentin Jerome Tarantino has to offer. What took place on Saturday night has robbed this coaching staff of any benefit of the doubt and without quick dramatic improvement, building momentum that will take the program to greatness (and not just trying to avoid humiliation) will become harder and harder to generate.

Tension exists in abundance and the only thing that will ease the stress in this “don’t tell us, show us” world the Longhorn program finds itself in is honorable results.

One thing I’m certain about with Strong is he won’t need it explained to him what will happen if those results don’t start to occur quickly.

To be fair this is what you wrote a week later. One of the most special moments you've witnessed in UT football in 20 years?

https://texas.forums.rivals.com/threads/ketchs-10-thoughts-from-the-weekend.93722/

 

[Ketchum]

Make no mistake your reaction (not just this scenario, I am talking about all reactions) is a choice and you need to own up to it and stop making excuses. Both of them. Osaka was gracious, and a good example of how you win with class and dignity.

k.

You're projecting thoughts and opinions that don't exist.

I've stated Serena was out of line. As was the official, who made the event about his officiating.

They are not mutually exclusive, no matter how hard some if you might try to make it so.

 

[Pho King Master]

You're projecting thoughts and opinions that don't exist.

So moral victories are a positive for aggy but somehow hurt us?

 

[Ketchum]

I gather there’s no level of misbehavior or tantrums, short of physical violence, that you feel would justify a third warning (hence game) regardless how abusive it is and no matter how much that disruption is compromising the match and disadvantaging her opponent?

are we playing the pretend game where we pretend her non-cursing outburst was anywhere near the level of scenario you are trying to ask about?

 

[FtWorthHorn07]

Our community is such a strength that few really want to leave this family of ours once they get in, even if there is some self-loathing over the football piece to it in the middle of it all.

It's also basically impossible to cancel.

 

[Ketchum]

So moral victories are a positive for aggy but somehow hurt us?

there's nuance to this and you aren't displaying much at the moment.

 

[Ketchum]

It's also basically impossible to cancel.

Not really.

 

[HllCountryHorn]

are we playing the pretend game where we pretend her non-cursing outburst was anywhere near the level of scenario you are trying to ask about?

What does cursing have to do with it? Warnings can be assessed short of cursing. You know that. Are you saying in the real world she wasn’t trying to cheat her opponent, psych her out, and break her momentum?

 

[Ketchum]

What does cursing have to do with it? Warnings can be assessed short of cursing. You know that. Are you saying in the real world she wasn’t trying to cheat her opponent, psych her out, and break her momentum?

You're asking me if there's a line that would justify a GAME in the second set of a major final?

Yes, if she had called him a mother****er, a GAME might be justified.

She didn't come within a 100-foot pole of calling him a mother****er.

 

[HllCountryHorn]

You're asking me if there's a line that would justify a GAME in the second set of a major final?

Yes, if she had called him a mother****er, a GAME might be justified.

She didn't come within a 100-foot pole of calling him a mother****er.

Nice try, but those aren’t the rules.

 

[liturgical orange]

In this year's US Open 23 code violations against men. 6 against women.