Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Future-casting Arch to Texas)

[Ketchum]

Did you copy and paste these from a website that has plot holes? How could you possibly remember these minor nitpicks from the last time you watched the movie. And also, the movie is so beautiful to watch and interesting and exciting and heartfelt, how are you even stopping to think about some of this stuff.

1. Someone told him?
2. I think it's longer
3. He's Batman
4. There's no SEC in Gotham. Duh
5. She's hot
6. People and groups make dumb decisions all the time. Hindsight 20/20

Did I cope and paste arguments from other sources about his back bring broken and basic questions about the story line?

Are you copy and pasting your retorts?

1. who? Asking that question is critical to the entire story, no?

2. It's not. We're led to believe that five months goes by in the movie before the final scenes.

3. Ok, that's not really an answer. Is this a new magical Batman?

4. I mean... ok.

5. I mean... ok.

6. Hindsight 20.20? lolololololol

 

[Ketchum]

Also on the voice of Bane, I think you have to differentiate from the breathy deep Darth Vader mask voice but with a similar effect and Bane’s voice tweaks it to more of a creepy and more psycho sounding tone, which works IMO.

 

[Ketchum]

It has gotten close at times, but seems to be okay today.

agreed

 

[Ketchum]

Btw, @Anwar Richardson and @JHop6714 Thanks for the nerdy movie talk. I do love to debate random movie stuff.

 

[bbussell1]

 

[McGuapo]

Btw, @Anwar Richardson and @JHop6714 Thanks for the nerdy movie talk. I do love to debate random movie stuff.

PARDON ME SIR, BUT DO I NOT EXIST?!

 

[McGuapo]

This from someone who was totally fine with Pattinson being Batman.

 

[Ketchum]

PARDON ME SIR, BUT DO I NOT EXIST?!

You're not giving me nerdy movie talk! You're trying to repress my nerdy movie talk by telling me not to overthink action movies!

 

[Ketchum]

This from someone who was totally fine with Pattinson being Batman.

You're gonna be so surprised when you realize how much you like emo Batman.

 

[McGuapo]

You're not giving me nerdy movie talk! You're trying to repress my nerdy movie talk by telling me not to overthink action movies!

You will take what I give you and like it! And I did provide some dialogue and references sir! Although I didn’t have the time to go full nerd.

 

[McGuapo]

You're gonna be so surprised when you realize how much you like emo Batman.

No man, I can’t go from American Psycho Batman to Twilight Batman. Not even the failed Ben Affleck buffer can grease those wheels.

 

[bbussell1]

If I were the Mannings and we wanted to choose Texas, I would do so early thinking that we need to help with recruiting. If we were going to choose Bama or Georgia, I probably wouldn't worry about that as much.

 

[BlakeSkaggs]

 

[JHop6714]

Was she compelling or was she fun?

It sounds to me like you just like Anne Hathaway, which is fine, but there's a reason why her character isn't remembered as the best female performance from the series.

I actually don’t really like Anne Hathaway, as I mentioned above. I was not excited about her casting and didn’t think she was very attractive or a good actress. She proved me wrong on all accounts

best female performance from the series is…who? Maggie G is the worst. And she’s better than Prime Rachel and Talia

 

[JHop6714]

Return of the King could have been 30 minutes shorter. It goes long in wrapping up the story. That's the point.

Nah, ROTK is far better in the extended edition when it’s 45 minutes longer. Again, a 12 hour movie needs enough time to wrap up 12 hours of story

 

[JHop6714]

Did I cope and paste arguments from other sources about his back bring broken and basic questions about the story line?

Are you copy and pasting your retorts?

1. who? Asking that question is critical to the entire story, no?

2. It's not. We're led to believe that five months goes by in the movie before the final scenes.

3. Ok, that's not really an answer. Is this a new magical Batman?

4. I mean... ok.

5. I mean... ok.

6. Hindsight 20.20? lolololololol

You are underrating #5

You are overestimating #6. Just look at the brainless political solutions attempted by the Austin PD / Mayor over the past several years and how poorly they all turned out

 

[mofohorn]

You think that's a dream?

Yes I do!

 

[Anwar Richardson]

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Dark Knight Rises scored hirer in both categories ...

 

[Anwar Richardson]

Btw, @Anwar Richardson and @JHop6714 Thanks for the nerdy movie talk. I do love to debate random movie stuff.

Agreed!

 

[Ketchum]

You will take what I give you and like it! And I did provide some dialogue and references sir! Although I didn’t have the time to go full nerd.

 

[Ketchum]

No man, I can’t go from American Psycho Batman to Twilight Batman. Not even the failed Ben Affleck buffer can grease those wheels.

Not once in the movie did I think to myself he wasn't right.,

 

[Ketchum]

I actually don’t really like Anne Hathaway, as I mentioned above. I was not excited about her casting and didn’t think she was very attractive or a good actress. She proved me wrong on all accounts

best female performance from the series is…who? Maggie G is the worst. And she’s better than Prime Rachel and Talia

I don't agree with this list from beginning to end at all, but it literally came out in the last week or so and it's not my opinion.

The 25 Best Batman Villains, Ranked

Every superhero needs a nemesis—these are the ones who have given the Dark Knight the best fight on the big screen

www.theringer.com

The Ringer 's Top ranked Batman Characters

1. The Joker (Heath Ledger, The Dark Knight)
2. Catwoman (Michelle Pfeiffer, Batman Returns)
3. The Joker (Mark Hamill, Batman: The Killing Joke)
4. The Penguin (Danny DeVito, Batman Returns)
5. Bane (Tom Hardy, The Dark Knight Rises)
6. Two-Face (Aaron Eckhart, The Dark Knight)
7. The Joker (Jack Nicholson, Batman)
8. Scarecrow (Cillian Murphy, Batman Begins)
9. Ra’s al Ghul (Liam Neeson, Batman Begins)
10. Phantasm (Dana Delany, Mask of the Phantasm)
11. Harley Quinn (Margot Robbie, Suicide Squad)
12. The Riddler (Jim Carrey, Batman Forever)
13. Two-Face (Tommy Lee Jones, Batman Forever)
14. Harley Quinn (Arleen Sorkin, Batman Beyond: Return of the Joke
15. Talia al Ghul (Marion Cotillard, The Dark Knight Rises)
16. Red Hood (Jensen Ackles, Batman: Under the Red Hood)
17. Poison Ivy (Uma Thurman, Batman & Robin)
18. The Riddler (Frank Gorshin, Batman)
19. The Joker (Zach Galifianakis, The Lego Batman Movie)
20. Max Shreck (Christopher Walken, Batman Returns)
21. Hush (Geoffrey Arend, Batman: Hush)
22. The Joker (Cesar Romero, Batman)
23. Mr. Freeze (Michael Ansara, Batman & Mr. Freeze: SubZero)
24. Holiday (Julie Nathanson, The Long Halloween)
25. Mr. Freeze (Arnold Schwarzenegger, Batman & Robin)

 

[Ketchum]

Nah, ROTK is far better in the extended edition when it’s 45 minutes longer. Again, a 12 hour movie needs enough time to wrap up 12 hours of story

I didn't say I didn't like the long ending, I'm just saying they could have chopped some time off of it and been fine.

 

[Ketchum]

You are underrating #5

You are overestimating #6. Just look at the brainless political solutions attempted by the Austin PD / Mayor over the past several years and how poorly they all turned out

🤷‍♂️

 

[Ketchum]

Yes I do!

who do you believe is the favorite?

 

[Ketchum]

Dark Knight Rises scored hirer in both categories ...

By very slight margins.

Seemed like an important note considering you didn't like the most recent movie, yet it grades out roughly the same.

 

[Tovar77]

I don't agree with this list from beginning to end at all, but it literally came out in the last week or so and it's not my opinion.

The 25 Best Batman Villains, Ranked

Every superhero needs a nemesis—these are the ones who have given the Dark Knight the best fight on the big screen

www.theringer.com

The Ringer 's Top ranked Batman Characters

1. The Joker (Heath Ledger, The Dark Knight)
2. Catwoman (Michelle Pfeiffer, Batman Returns)
3. The Joker (Mark Hamill, Batman: The Killing Joke)
4. The Penguin (Danny DeVito, Batman Returns)
5. Bane (Tom Hardy, The Dark Knight Rises)
6. Two-Face (Aaron Eckhart, The Dark Knight)
7. The Joker (Jack Nicholson, Batman)
8. Scarecrow (Cillian Murphy, Batman Begins)
9. Ra’s al Ghul (Liam Neeson, Batman Begins)
10. Phantasm (Dana Delany, Mask of the Phantasm)
11. Harley Quinn (Margot Robbie, Suicide Squad)
12. The Riddler (Jim Carrey, Batman Forever)
13. Two-Face (Tommy Lee Jones, Batman Forever)
14. Harley Quinn (Arleen Sorkin, Batman Beyond: Return of the Joke
15. Talia al Ghul (Marion Cotillard, The Dark Knight Rises)
16. Red Hood (Jensen Ackles, Batman: Under the Red Hood)
17. Poison Ivy (Uma Thurman, Batman & Robin)
18. The Riddler (Frank Gorshin, Batman)
19. The Joker (Zach Galifianakis, The Lego Batman Movie)
20. Max Shreck (Christopher Walken, Batman Returns)
21. Hush (Geoffrey Arend, Batman: Hush)
22. The Joker (Cesar Romero, Batman)
23. Mr. Freeze (Michael Ansara, Batman & Mr. Freeze: SubZero)
24. Holiday (Julie Nathanson, The Long Halloween)
25. Mr. Freeze (Arnold Schwarzenegger, Batman & Robin)

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No Burgess Meredith for The Penguin?

 

[McGuapo]

Not once in the movie did I think to myself he wasn't right.,

Don’t bring that tolerance in here. What does that dude weigh, like a buck fifty?

 

[Ketchum]

No Burgess Meredith for The Penguin?

🤷‍♂️

 

[Ketchum]

Don’t bring that tolerance in here. What does that dude weigh, like a buck fifty?

 

[Cure4BizCancer]

I don't agree with this list from beginning to end at all, but it literally came out in the last week or so and it's not my opinion.

The 25 Best Batman Villains, Ranked

Every superhero needs a nemesis—these are the ones who have given the Dark Knight the best fight on the big screen

www.theringer.com

The Ringer 's Top ranked Batman Characters

1. The Joker (Heath Ledger, The Dark Knight)
2. Catwoman (Michelle Pfeiffer, Batman Returns)
3. The Joker (Mark Hamill, Batman: The Killing Joke)
4. The Penguin (Danny DeVito, Batman Returns)
5. Bane (Tom Hardy, The Dark Knight Rises)
6. Two-Face (Aaron Eckhart, The Dark Knight)
7. The Joker (Jack Nicholson, Batman)
8. Scarecrow (Cillian Murphy, Batman Begins)
9. Ra’s al Ghul (Liam Neeson, Batman Begins)
10. Phantasm (Dana Delany, Mask of the Phantasm)
11. Harley Quinn (Margot Robbie, Suicide Squad)
12. The Riddler (Jim Carrey, Batman Forever)
13. Two-Face (Tommy Lee Jones, Batman Forever)
14. Harley Quinn (Arleen Sorkin, Batman Beyond: Return of the Joke
15. Talia al Ghul (Marion Cotillard, The Dark Knight Rises)
16. Red Hood (Jensen Ackles, Batman: Under the Red Hood)
17. Poison Ivy (Uma Thurman, Batman & Robin)
18. The Riddler (Frank Gorshin, Batman)
19. The Joker (Zach Galifianakis, The Lego Batman Movie)
20. Max Shreck (Christopher Walken, Batman Returns)
21. Hush (Geoffrey Arend, Batman: Hush)
22. The Joker (Cesar Romero, Batman)
23. Mr. Freeze (Michael Ansara, Batman & Mr. Freeze: SubZero)
24. Holiday (Julie Nathanson, The Long Halloween)
25. Mr. Freeze (Arnold Schwarzenegger, Batman & Robin)

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Seeing Nicholson 7th on this list seems criminal.

 

[JHop6714]

I don't agree with this list from beginning to end at all, but it literally came out in the last week or so and it's not my opinion.

The 25 Best Batman Villains, Ranked

Every superhero needs a nemesis—these are the ones who have given the Dark Knight the best fight on the big screen

www.theringer.com

The Ringer 's Top ranked Batman Characters

1. The Joker (Heath Ledger, The Dark Knight)
2. Catwoman (Michelle Pfeiffer, Batman Returns)
3. The Joker (Mark Hamill, Batman: The Killing Joke)
4. The Penguin (Danny DeVito, Batman Returns)
5. Bane (Tom Hardy, The Dark Knight Rises)
6. Two-Face (Aaron Eckhart, The Dark Knight)
7. The Joker (Jack Nicholson, Batman)
8. Scarecrow (Cillian Murphy, Batman Begins)
9. Ra’s al Ghul (Liam Neeson, Batman Begins)
10. Phantasm (Dana Delany, Mask of the Phantasm)
11. Harley Quinn (Margot Robbie, Suicide Squad)
12. The Riddler (Jim Carrey, Batman Forever)
13. Two-Face (Tommy Lee Jones, Batman Forever)
14. Harley Quinn (Arleen Sorkin, Batman Beyond: Return of the Joke
15. Talia al Ghul (Marion Cotillard, The Dark Knight Rises)
16. Red Hood (Jensen Ackles, Batman: Under the Red Hood)
17. Poison Ivy (Uma Thurman, Batman & Robin)
18. The Riddler (Frank Gorshin, Batman)
19. The Joker (Zach Galifianakis, The Lego Batman Movie)
20. Max Shreck (Christopher Walken, Batman Returns)
21. Hush (Geoffrey Arend, Batman: Hush)
22. The Joker (Cesar Romero, Batman)
23. Mr. Freeze (Michael Ansara, Batman & Mr. Freeze: SubZero)
24. Holiday (Julie Nathanson, The Long Halloween)
25. Mr. Freeze (Arnold Schwarzenegger, Batman & Robin)

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I read that list and thought it was ridiculous. But, to each their own

 

[JHop6714]

I read that list and thought it was ridiculous. But, to each their own

@Ketchum I also recognize that these lists are often based on some auteur film school analysis, the same thing that might win an Academy Award, recognizing a crazy performance, that doesn't necessarily (and often doesn't) jive with characters I actually enjoy watching. The best example is Phoenix' The Joker. Did he turn in amazing performance? Yes. Do I like watching the movie? No. Do I think he encapsulated the actual character of The Joker? No. Did I enjoy myself while watching it? No. Does it contribute to me feeling moved in any direction or any catharsis for the hero of the film? There is none. Does not compute.

In my opinion, what actually makes Ledger's Joker work so well in The Dark Knight is the character of Two Face in that movie. Their viewpoints pitting against each other make the Joker story something more than just a crazy person being crazy.

 

[LH-Pools]

If Texas is his choice,
How many other top recruits sign with Texas.....

 

[JHop6714]

1. From IMDB:

"How did Bane and Talia learn Batman's true identity, and did the original League survive?

"Bane was part of the League of Shadows- the same organization Bruce was part of- and so if Bane and Talia took over the League of Shadows after Ra's al Ghul's death, they would have learned this from existing members. In the sewer fight, Bane knows that Bruce betrayed the League; he wouldn't know this unless the League members informed him. Plus, in the judicial hall scene, Talia mentioned Bruce "murdered" her father; so that means the League members that were with Ra's in their previous Gotham attack survived, escaped and informed her. We neither see nor hear dialogue about the League after Ra's death in the first film, Batman Begins; that is because the League members escaped and survived. This is confirmed with Alfred asking Bruce, "Who leads them now?", in their conversation about the League in this third film, The Dark Knight Rises. And the League consists of mercenary members originally too since in Batman Begins, when Bruce first enters the temple, we see some League members holding assault weapons and wearing colored scarfs. Likewise, we see similarly dressed and armed League members descending the pit in the flashback scene in The Dark Knight Rises."

2. Doesn't a billionaire wearing a cape and fighting crime at night defy logic? It's a fantasy movie.

3. "The Bat. If you recall, the last he used it before being broken by Bane was when he rescued Selina from the rooftops. After that, he flew it back to the batcave and parked it on the pedestal. He managed to direct the autopilot to his position and flew it back to Gotham. That's why, the next time we see it, it's parked on the roof of a tower (where, uncoincidentally, Bruce and Fox talk specifically about the autopilot)."

4. It was the Gotham Stock Exchange, not NYSE lol

5. They were both super-rich, she ended up rescuing him, and Alfred did tell Bruce that Rachel wasn't that into him. I can't remember when Alfred told him in the movie but dude had been locked up in his room for a while and she was willing to sleep with him pretty quickly?

In other words, P---- is undefeated 😂

6. Clearly, that defies common sense. I'll give you that one.

So, there are clear nuances to this movie that only the most diehard fans will understand. I have good working knowledge but every question you have can probably be answered in this video.

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Anwar basically saying what I said for #5. She's hot!?!