I'm comparing it to what I've seen in the last six years.I think you are comparing Texas' talent to an Alabama-like program and not to the teams on the schedule.
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I'm comparing it to what I've seen in the last six years.I think you are comparing Texas' talent to an Alabama-like program and not to the teams on the schedule.
I've basically been spot on in my Texas season predicting business every year since 2010 and in general, I think I've been within a game of being right in terms of won-loss record in 12 of the last 14 seasons.Incorrect, @Ketchum has been overcompensating to pessimism since he got burned on his GG will be the next Joe Montana prediction.
Let's play rank the quarterbacks game. Slide Swoopes/Buechele in there with all 12 teams on the schedule.Well-said. A better question, is how many of the 12 opponents have better talent across the top 44 guys than we do. Sure, you can count Domer and OU. Who else beyond those 2 can you sincerely say have a stronger top 44 than Texas without a doubt?
106 yards on 28 carries.
lulz, indeed.
You're giving a 5-7 team with line and quarterback issues a lot of unearned faith on the road.Wins:
UTEP
Cal
KSU
Kansas
TT
WVU
ISU
Texas will win one or two from the following list:
ND
OU (beat last year)
OSU (should have beat last year)
Baylor (beat last year)
TCU
QB and OL are still a concern but everyone will agree are in better shape than last year. DL is only position that is weaker than last year.
1994 Colorado.Re. the heat factor: I am always hopeful that it will have a positive effect. Still, the hottest I''ve ever been at a game was the UCLA fiasco. Heat might have been a factor in that game, but to the extent that it WAS, it certainly wasn't a positive for the home team.
Careful, you'll be labeled a hater or Herman fan boy for your realistic take.
you think 8 Ws is good for a top 5 salaried coach ?Serious question......If Swoopes becomes the back-up QB and we win 8 games, what will the "haters" choose to whine about next? I can't see much left to complain about. Too many juniors leaving from 2018 on?
I'm sure you talked to a high UT official or even a BMD, but I think it's doubtful the source speaks for the inner circle of BMDs who quietly drive athletic affairs. That group is private and has yet to give comments to any reporter about what they're thinking. There's no reason they would abruptly break silence prior to a season when much remains to be determined. These guys are shrewd, and would understand that issuing a comment about a minimum number of wins could (i) aid our competitors in recruiting, (ii) incite fan expectations, and (iii) restrict their ability to evaluate the program by more than one measure.
No I don't think eight wins is the standard. I asked what is there to whine about this year if Swoopes is the back-up and we win eight games. I would suggest that that means that we're on track for a really good year next year and that improvement was seen. So, for an expensive coach doing an extensive rebuild, I would think that would be satisfactory trajectory. I want 12-0 but I think that takes a complete program top to bottom. CS would be heading that way with an improvement to 8 wins this year.you think 8 Ws is good for a top 5 salaried coach ?
Low standards you have there.
I've pointed to the Cal game as a potential swing game all year. When did I disagree with you?
Barely ( showing improvement)........he then would have one year of on field improvement going into his fourth year....all while being paid as if he were a top 5 coach.No I don't think eight wins is the standard. I asked what is there to whine about this year if Swoopes is the back-up and we win eight games. I would suggest that that means that we're on track for a really good year next year and that improvement was seen. So, for an expensive coach doing an extensive rebuild, I would think that would be satisfactory trajectory. I want 12-0 but I think that takes a complete program top to bottom. CS would be heading that way with an improvement to 8 wins this year.
I think they were more alike than different. CS chose to run off his upperclass players; not saying that was the wrong thing to do, he just handled it differently than the Meyer or Harbaugh.
The re build was never THAT extensive.
The bottom line is that there wasn't really a moment in that game when he looked next-level and that was against Baylor's run defense.what other options was RU defending that afternoon? - i'm pretty sure they knew we were running the ball and were lined up to defend it so I'd say yes, it was a good afternoon of running the ball considering RU gave very little thought to our passing attack. Go look at the tape, all 11 RU defenders are within 7 yards of the line of scrimmage on most every snap.
WE're on the same page.Texas loses to Notre Dame, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, TCU and one of either Kansas State/Texas Tech.
Those are the ones on my list; but until CS shows he can win on the road, I'd put Cal in the mix, especially if they struggle against ND and can't overwhelm UTEP. Winning allows confidence to grow - losing or not performing to expectations sucks the positivity right out of you. Tough schedule out of the box. On the other hand...
Hook 'em!!!
Three of the four reasons you cite were Charlie's own doing/ He controlled all those issues except for the AD change ( and ironically SP was a HUGE one of the reasons CS was hired....UT wanted to make a statement. ).Yes it was. Totally new culture. Staff issues. Player turnover. AD change. 2 good recruiting classes while playing poorly due to talent issues. CS has done an extensive rebuild. He is a top tier coach in the middle of a huge project under intense scrutiny. I am really proud of him and hope for long term success enough to offset the early years.
I need to start doing that.Some of those Buy/Sell questions were brutal. You should put the handle of the person who asked the questions next time @Ketchum
we're not in any sort of disagreement.I will grant you that it is easy to say while sitting in the comfort of my office chair, but given what I have seen from Swoopes, and what the reports were (and some still are) saying in regards to Shane being able to sustain drives better, I would take a shot with Shane and only use Swoopes in the 18 wheeler or in spurts if Shane gets rattled. I play to win, not "not to lose". Hell Charlie even said if they are tied he would go with the younger player with upside. I am not sure he really believes that in most circumstances. (Tim Cole, Jonathon Gray, Haines, and apparently Swoopes).
Thanks for answering though Ketch. I appreciate it.
I think those in charge want to give him the benefit of the doubt. Show improvement/don't embarrass anyone = fourth year for sure IMOKetch - do you think the calculus changes for Strong if we go 7-5 and have a good defense but lose games 14-6 with sucky quarterback play?
special backs tend to be special, at least on a few occasions in a game, regardless of the competition at this level.i'm sure lots of backs would have gone for 2 bills facing a defense that regularly lined up 11 men within 7 yards of the LOS - lulz indeed
I think those in charge want to give him the benefit of the doubt. Show improvement/don't embarrass anyone = fourth year for sure IMO
Haha. Yeah well, I don't care about labels. I think by far the best thing for the University is for Charlie Strong to succeed. The players love him, he genuinely loves the players, and his core values and commitment to them is really something to be proud of, especially these days. I want Charlie to win....but he has to win, and I don't think being conservative at QB is going to do it.
Leonard Fournette 19-31 against Bama, 19-91 against Arkansas and followed that up with 25-108 against Ole Miss...Longest run was 32 yards in those 3 game....is that special? I'm not saying he is Fournette, but this "special moment" stuff is BS.special backs tend to be special, at least on a few occasions in a game, regardless of the competition at this level.
He had Braxton Miller but Miller and Carlos Hyde were basically their offense. Other than that, OUS has three seniors drafted the next spring in the 2nd, 4th and 7th round. We had Brown, Hicks, Diggs and Thompson on D. It may not have been Charlie's fault he didn't inherit a QB but it darn sure is that we don't have one going in to 2016.LOL...you seriously want to compare the talent at OS to Texas? And CS chose to run off players in the same way that Kelly ran off his players at ND the other day. They ran themselves off. That they did demonstrates the character defects that existed in the program before CS ever took over.
But that's my point! He was paid $5M to change culture, boot kids out if needed, recruit better talent and hire quality coaches. Some kids and coaches may not have worked out initially, but that doesn't mean we aren't moving forward at a satisfactory rate. It is on CS and he is doing what he needs to do!Three of the four reasons you cite were Charlie's own doing/ He controlled all those issues except for the AD change ( and ironically SP was a HUGE one of the reasons CS was hired....UT wanted to make a statement. ).
I just respectfully disagree.
We will see how it plays out.
can't turn down Sunday night prime time with zero competition.I read somewhere Coach Strong wanted to play the ND game in the afternoon, but he was shot down by the athletic department. Too bad we can't use our full home field advantage! Might as well take advantage of the Texas heat☀️☀️
a. I would bet there were moments in those performances where he flashed once or twice in a special way.Leonard Fournette 19-31 against Bama, 19-91 against Arkansas and followed that up with 25-108 against Ole Miss...Longest run was 32 yards in those 3 game....is that special? I'm not saying he is Fournette, but this "special moment" stuff is BS.
He had Braxton Miller but Miller and Carlos Hyde were basically their offense. Other than that, OUS has three seniors drafted the next spring in the 2nd, 4th and 7th round. We had Brown, Hicks, Diggs and Thompson on D. It may not have been Charlie's fault he didn't inherit a QB but it darn sure is that we don't have one going in to 2016.
At the end of the day, I'm not arguing that Strong had a lot of talent off the bat to work with or as good as Meyer's, but that his coaching hasn't helped the W-L column and you're giving him a pass.