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Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (It's a put up or shut up NIL world)

I have never heard anyone say In Dreams is his best song. 🤷‍♂️
Sorry typed that after driving for 8 hours. Meant to say on his greatest songs. Blue Bayou is another good one that he wrote that Linda Ronstadt made more famous. Was really bummed that he died literally after starting a great comeback. Had an awesome voice with a haunting quality to it. He had a lot of tragedy in his life too including losing several children in a house fire.
 
Could not agree more on your take on Durant overall. When talking about legacy, the things that matter the most are career accomplishments and hardware, not individual playoff game or playoff series performance.

Two other things I'll mention on Durant...

You did a side by side comparison with Bird, and obviously Durant at the present time falls short of Bird in career accomplishments. The one player who's career accomplishments line up the closest with Durant is Hakeem Olajuwon. Both guys have two championships, two finals MVP awards, and one regular season MVP. Hakeem has 2 defensive player of the year awards, and Durant offsets that with 4 scoring titles. They are similar in all-star/All-NBA selections. Wherever you have Hakeem (I think most put him in the top 10-15 range), you have to put Durant right along side him.

The second item to address as it relates to Durant's legacy... He is only 34 years old and he is still playing at an All-NBA level. It was an injury shortened season, but he just put up the first 55/40/90 season in NBA history while scoring 29 ppg in the process. There's still plenty of time for him to win more hardware and improve upon his legacy. Bottom line, at this point in his career, Durant's all time ranking can only go up, it can't go down based on anything he fails to do moving forward. The only thing that moves him down the list now is future great players surpassing him.
 
Someone will have to educate me as to how giving NIL money to athletes promotes “charitable” work. Does that mean they do less charitable work without the NIL money? That then seems to mean they will do more charitable work if they are getting paid to do it which sort of makes it not charitable. Please help me understand what I am missing.
I'll take a stab, but anyone who is far more versed feel free to chime in. But there are high level 2 different types of NIL.

The first is like what Ketch did with OB athletes. It's a business owner directly paying an athlete due to their NIL to promote their business. This is not tax deductible/charitable, this is the business owner hoping to make a profit on that investment as that athlete markets their business. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't,

Now one caveat is I understand that the compensation for that has to be "fair and reasonable". I've seen reports of athletes getting 300-500k/year and their "requirement" is to do a couple of one hour autograph sessions. Again, someone is paying them to do that and losing money on it, but you can see how this could be viewed as "pay to play" and not real NIL.

The other side is the tax-deductible Texas One fund. Texas One (and others) are approved as not for profit entities that you can donate to and take a tax deduction. To get, and keep, that status the funds have to pass several levels of scrutiny, but to keep it simple it has to be clear that this entity is not operating "for profit".

The way that Texas One does it, as far as I understand, is that they organize service opportunities for the athletes in the community. Again, probably a lot of variance there, but the cuddly idea is the star WR will go visit some kids at the hospital. There are some people who are working very hard and thanklessly to push not only the legality but the opportunity of this fund forward, and it is doing "good in the community".

The sideways part is again, what is "fair and reasonable"? Is the fund paying athletes $100k for a 1 hour appearance? If it is, is that acceptable? Why does one athlete and not another get that? To me, it's a tight rope to walk of being truly a non-profit in how we want it to work, while also being a real incentive for athletes who otherwise wouldn't care about the initiatives it serves.

If anyone wants to fill in the gaps or correct it, please do.
 
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I'll take a stab, but anyone who is far more versed feel free to chime in. But there are high level 2 different types of NIL.

The first is like what Ketch did with OB athletes. It's a business owner directly paying an athlete due to their NIL to promote their business. This is not tax deductible/charitable, this is the business owner hoping to make a profit on that investment as that athlete markets their business. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't,

Now one caveat is I understand that the compensation for that has to be "fair and reasonable". I've seen reports of athletes getting 300-500k/year and their "requirement" is to do a couple of one hour autograph sessions. Again, someone is paying them to do that and losing money on it, but you can see how this could be viewed as "pay to play" and not real NIL.

The other side is the tax-deductible Texas One fund. Texas One (and others) are approved as not for profit entities that you can donate to and take a tax deduction. To get, and keep, that status the funds have to pass several levels of scrutiny, but to keep it simple it has to be clear that this entity is not operating "for profit".

The way that Texas One does it, as far as I understand, is that they organize service opportunities for the athletes in the community. Again, probably a lot of variance there, but the cuddly idea is the star WR will go visit some kids at the hospital. There are some people who are working very hard and thanklessly to push not only the legality but the opportunity of this fund forward, and it is doing "good in the community".

The sideways part is again, what is "fair and reasonable"? Is the fund paying athletes $100k for a 1 hour appearance? If it is, is that acceptable? Why does one athlete and not another get that? To me, it's a tight rope to walk of being truly a non-profit in how we want it to work, while also being a real incentive for athletes who otherwise wouldn't care about the initiatives it serves.

If anyone wants to fill in the gaps or correct it, please do.
Did you just wake up this morning and decide to make every effort to piss on and subvert UT’s NIL collection efforts? Did you even attend UT?
 
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Did you just wake up this morning and decide to make every effort to piss on and subvert UT’s NIL collection efforts? Did you even attend UT?
How on earth are you interpreting what I wrote as negative about UTs effort? In fact, I was complimentary when speaking directly of UT and when I brought concerns it wasn't directed towards UT.

Good grief you are spinning negative hard.
 
Did you just wake up this morning and decide to make every effort to piss on and subvert UT’s NIL collection efforts? Did you even attend UT?
Weird take. I thought it was just a fact based description. I was about to write up a similar take as his understanding matches mine.
 
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It's not allowed to do so. The fundraising has to be third party.
To follow up on my prior post in reference to this post, season ticket holders are overpaying the LHF and should redirect some of that money to NIL. The SEC money will replace the drop in donations, your overall contribution stays flat, and the money goes to Texas One to help get the best athletes.

The LHF grossly overcharges for benefits…donation levels are ridiculous for the “premium” seats, and I can’t believe so many donors pay their blood money. That being said, if you’re paying the big bucks for the best seats, then you can surely donate to Texas One. If you’re tapped out, reduce your donation and move to a cheaper seat then donate the difference to Texas One. It won’t affect the AD because of the SEC money coming in soon.
 
Well LSU fans do about womens basketball as that $$ is flowing in for their NIL right now. :) They have built a power team for next year.
Good for them.

If you are using the state of Louisiana to make your case, you've already lost.
 
Our fans lack the conviction to properly fund NIL for the long-term. It’s quite obvious from the responses on this site. Some are actually proud that they are too cheap to help fund NIL. They would rather bitch and moan while doing nothing and refusing to take any ownership.
I would imagine that attitude will prevail almost everywhere. People have fatigue from being constantly asked to give, especially in the new world where the players who are being supported show very little loyalty to anyone other than themselves.

I am rather fascinated to see how this all plays out long term as nobody has an endless supply of cash.
 
I tried to tell anyone who would listen that NIL would NOT automatically be a winner for Texas.
haTexas may have the NIL fan numbers, but Texas does not r
and probably never will have the fan support for NIL that other teams have. and for one overriding reason.

While fans of other schools determine their self worth through the success or failure of their athletic department, University of Texas fans are proud of being University of Texas fans.

I doubt that will ever change.

And, there exists a large number of Texas fans who believe that an all expenses paid education to The University of Texas is a reward beyond money.


We really do not know what the numbers are from other schools at this point. Texas may not be doing as well as some but they are still raising money. If NIl continues to be a big factor and I suspect it will and Texas fans do not embrace then we should just all accept that our better days may behind us.
 
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This is the first time in history that Texas fans can legally do something to help our team win and support our players. And our leadership has also worked it so we are giving to the community in need. But people like you would rather whine about it.
Correct. How many threads were in this site a few years ago about SEC bagmen and how Texas needed some bagmen. Well … everyone can do now what the bagmen used to do. But now that it’s legal and available to everyone (NOT TO MENTION TAX DEDUCTIBLE) so many people still just prefer to bitch. Money talks and bullshit walks.
 
Good for them.

If you are using the state of Louisiana to make your case, you've already lost.
I was just responding to the womens sports comment. Not which state.:)

I would have hoped after the TX womens VB championship they would have gotten a big surge in donations as well. I don't that has been the case unfortunately.

I would think the only thing that matters to some donors whether big or small is how the football team is doing.

Now TX wins 10 games and the Big 12 this year and $$ will be the least of their worries i would imagine. Fingers crossed!
 
I tried to tell anyone who would listen that NIL would NOT automatically be a winner for Texas.
haTexas may have the NIL fan numbers, but Texas does not r
and probably never will have the fan support for NIL that other teams have. and for one overriding reason.

While fans of other schools determine their self worth through the success or failure of their athletic department, University of Texas fans are proud of being University of Texas fans.

I doubt that will ever change.

And, there exists a large number of Texas fans who believe that an all expenses paid education to The University of Texas is a reward beyond money.
We don’t remember you telling anyone that.
 
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Someone will have to educate me as to how giving NIL money to athletes promotes “charitable” work. Does that mean they do less charitable work without the NIL money? That then seems to mean they will do more charitable work if they are getting paid to do it which sort of makes it not charitable. Please help me understand what I am missing.

The guys could just get paid money. The TOF makes sure that these guys do lots of positive endeavors. I won't debate whether that should be defined as charity or not. They do a lot of good, though.
 
Sorry typed that after driving for 8 hours. Meant to say on his greatest songs. Blue Bayou is another good one that he wrote that Linda Ronstadt made more famous. Was really bummed that he died literally after starting a great comeback. Had an awesome voice with a haunting quality to it. He had a lot of tragedy in his life too including losing several children in a house fire.
Blue Bayou is a masterpiece.
 
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Could not agree more on your take on Durant overall. When talking about legacy, the things that matter the most are career accomplishments and hardware, not individual playoff game or playoff series performance.

Two other things I'll mention on Durant...

You did a side by side comparison with Bird, and obviously Durant at the present time falls short of Bird in career accomplishments. The one player who's career accomplishments line up the closest with Durant is Hakeem Olajuwon. Both guys have two championships, two finals MVP awards, and one regular season MVP. Hakeem has 2 defensive player of the year awards, and Durant offsets that with 4 scoring titles. They are similar in all-star/All-NBA selections. Wherever you have Hakeem (I think most put him in the top 10-15 range), you have to put Durant right along side him.

The second item to address as it relates to Durant's legacy... He is only 34 years old and he is still playing at an All-NBA level. It was an injury shortened season, but he just put up the first 55/40/90 season in NBA history while scoring 29 ppg in the process. There's still plenty of time for him to win more hardware and improve upon his legacy. Bottom line, at this point in his career, Durant's all time ranking can only go up, it can't go down based on anything he fails to do moving forward. The only thing that moves him down the list now is future great players surpassing him.
There's a very good chance he finishes his career as a Top 5 all-time scorer in the history of the game.
 
That's fair. It's just not one of my favs.
The song itself is kinda a beta message but also captures some of the general insecurities of young men about their significant other’s exes. The structure, key changes and vocal build though is some of Roy’s best. I tend to enjoy music more from the sound experience than the lyrics. It helps me enjoy a wider range of music in spite of the “message“ the piece conveys.
The whole point was YOUR top 10 anyway. Thanks for including him. Too many don’t know about Roy’s unique fit in the music scene for 3-4 decades. He died at 52 (I believe) but looked 52 for the last 2s decades of his life to me.
 
Considering Texas struggles how does Texas compare with others and their efforts?
Depends on the sport.

Texas Football is very, very competitive. There's just a constant need for more money. Being great in 2022 doesn't do much in 2023.or 2024.
 
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We really do not know what the numbers are from other schools at this point. Texas may not be doin as well as some but they are still raising money. If NIl continues to be a big factor and I suspect it will and Texas fans do not embrace then we should just all accept that our better days may behind us.
Gonna be hard to have best days.
 
Correct. How many threads were in this site a few years ago about SEC bagmen and how Texas needed some bagmen. Well … everyone can do now what the bagmen used to do. But now that it’s legal and available to everyone (NOT TO MENTION TAX DEDUCTIBLE) so many people still just prefer to bitch. Money talks and bullshit walks.
bingo
 
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I was just responding to the womens sports comment. Not which state.:)

I would have hoped after the TX womens VB championship they would have gotten a big surge in donations as well. I don't that has been the case unfortunately.

I would think the only thing that matters to some donors whether big or small is how the football team is doing.

Now TX wins 10 games and the Big 12 this year and $$ will be the least of their worries i would imagine. Fingers crossed!
Obviously there are many people who follow women's sports. Just not enough to justify the existence of 99% of the teams.

OU softball may be the most dominant team on the face of the planet, I doubt they are self sufficient.

I wonder if any of our women's sports could stand on their own. I'm sure wbb is close, if you don't include Vic's salary.
 
Obviously there are many people who follow women's sports. Just not enough to justify the existence of 99% of the teams.

OU softball may be the most dominant team on the face of the planet, I doubt they are self sufficient.

I wonder if any of our women's sports could stand on their own. I'm sure wbb is close, if you don't include Vic's salary.
Most schools have two revenue producing programs.

That's it.
 
It's not allowed to do so. The fundraising has to be third party.
The school can be involved though and there could be a link to the Texas One Fund within your Longhorn Foundation account and a request on all season ticket renewals. These are things we are working on, just take time. This article has helped a lot, been a flurry of donations today and lot of emails coming in with folks asking questions.
 
The school can be involved though and there could be a link to the Texas One Fund within your Longhorn Foundation account and a request on all season ticket renewals. These are things we are working on, just take time. This article has helped a lot, been a flurry of donations today and lot of emails coming in with folks asking questions.
That's bad ass.
 
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How on earth are you interpreting what I wrote as negative about UTs effort? In fact, I was complimentary when speaking directly of UT and when I brought concerns it wasn't directed towards UT.

Good grief you are spinning negative hard.
It was about the most negative way possible to characterize what UT is doing with completely made up outrageous numbers. Your other posts were 100% subversive to what UT is trying to accomplish. It’s not the refusal to pay that makes someone a bad fan but actively working against UTs efforts that does. I’ll move on.
 
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Most schools have two revenue producing programs.

That's it.
Most power 5 have two.

Others are lucky to even have 1.

If you took out fb and mens BB, the remaining mens' teams are much closer to breakeven than the women's teams.

Just pick a random school, list the top 10 most attended sports. 7 or 8 would be mens sports.

The point I'm making is that if mens football didn't have to foot the entire bill, they could pay their players themselves. And Texas would truly dominate.
 
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The school can be involved though and there could be a link to the Texas One Fund within your Longhorn Foundation account and a request on all season ticket renewals. These are things we are working on, just take time. This article has helped a lot, been a flurry of donations today and lot of emails coming in with folks asking questions.
Awesome! I figured that if I thought of it then someone else smarter than me has. 😂
 
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