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Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Let's keep it real about Quinn)

His completion percentage is high because he's completing passes--whether or not he checks down or doesn't checkdown.

He's a total difference maker--he was the major reason we beat Alabama--the marquee game of the year, in many years.
the second half of the ou game his numbers were off the charts great.

He's been the cornerstone of all of these games. And these last two games have really shown his absence. Maalik is not even close to Ewers--we need the guy back in a big way.

AND It would help if we had a secondary that could stop somebody. 🙂
His stats suggest he’s a good QB, not great. He’s a game manager. He’s not going to light teams up on a consistent basis. The reason we struggled with K State is because we turned the ball over. This is what Ewers does best, but let’s stop pretending that he’s this generational or even great player because he’s not.
 
His stats suggest he’s a good QB, not great. He’s a game manager. He’s not going to light teams up on a consistent basis. The reason we struggled with K State is because we turned the ball over. This is what Ewers does best, but let’s stop pretending that he’s this generational or even great player because he’s not.
I think his stats (and results) show he's better than good. And I think you're underselling what he's done.

We see what happened without Ewers during the KSU game--damn near lost it--because we have an inexperienced and raw quarterback who plays loose with the ball and only had a 55% completion percentage in high school to begin with.

In his worst game, Ewers hasn't looked as bad as Murphy-not even close--even last year, when he didn't look good often times.

And yes, he has lit teams up this year--we're 8-1 largely because of him turning in big numbers, and coming up big in pressure situations.

Nobody has said that he's a generational player--but who really is? those guys don't come around very often. There are NO generational players at the college level this year. Is he going to be good in the NFL? Who knows? The odds against anyone being a great QB at the NFL level are low. But as a college player? I'll take him any day. Seeing some of these other slug QBs like what we have in the big 12, and I say, "glad we have Ewers."

And nobody is pretending about Ewers, he has flaws--in fact most have criticized Ewers extensively, and most are saying that he should come back so he can work on his development.

But he has a lot of talent that we have seen and has significantly improved since last year--and there's no reason to assume that he won't continue to improve.

One other thing-you say he doesn't make players around him better. Brooks, Mitchell, Worthy, have had really good seasons--and it's not over yet.

Ask Worthy how he feels in Ewers' absence.
 
Exactly there is a process to this. Bo Nix, Michael Penix are having stellar seasons but looking at their 2nd seasons as starters. Penix is a 6th year Senior, Bo Nix 5th Year Senior. I agree with you the best thing about the injury is Maalik's performance has left a lo to be desired and now all Texas fans may appreciate Quinn more and maybe that will help with the fan base. The bad part his he could have had some stat padding games against BYU and Kansas State plus the rest of the schedule TCU, Iowa State and Tech.
No doubt. I expected him to.
 
I think his stats (and results) show he's better than good. And I think you're underselling what he's done.

We see what happened without Ewers during the KSU game--damn near lost it--because we have an inexperienced and raw quarterback who plays loose with the ball and only had a 55% completion percentage in high school to begin with.

In his worst game, Ewers hasn't looked as bad as Murphy-not even close--even last year, when he didn't look good often times.

And yes, he has lit teams up this year--we're 8-1 largely because of him turning in big numbers, and coming up big in pressure situations.

Nobody has said that he's a generational player--but who really is? those guys don't come around very often. There are NO generational players at the college level this year. Is he going to be good in the NFL? Who knows? The odds against anyone being a great QB at the NFL level are low. But as a college player? I'll take him any day. Seeing some of these other slug QBs like what we have in the big 12, and I say, "glad we have Ewers."

And nobody is pretending about Ewers, he has flaws--in fact most have criticized Ewers extensively, and most are saying that he should come back so he can work on his development.

But he has a lot of talent that we have seen and has significantly improved since last year--and there's no reason to assume that he won't continue to improve.

One other thing-you say he doesn't make players around him better. Brooks, Mitchell, Worthy, have had really good seasons--and it's not over yet.

Ask Worthy how he feels in Ewers' absence.
I’m not underselling anything. His stats are a good but not great player. You keep mentioning Murphy in his second start with limited reps, which I understand, but Ewers had some awful games a year ago (OSU game). Ewers does enough for this team to win but he’s not a great player. Idk why you can’t see that. He’s not being talked about as a first or even second rounder. He’s not special. Btw, Worthy wasn’t going to come close to breaking 1k yards with Ewers. These players are elite, but they aren’t putting up amazing numbers with the exception of Brooks, which Ewers has nothing to do with.

The main reason I don’t believe he will get any better is because he has elite talent right now, and he’s nothing more than a game manager with them. If Worthy or Mitchell were on par for monster seasons than my assessment would be wrong.
 
I don't think it sucks--that's an exaggeration. He's shown he can hit the deep ball--is it his strong suit--no, but I saying it "sucks?" It doesn't suck.
He hasn't remotely showed that he can consistently hit those throws.

He hit two vs. Alabama and there hasn't really been a return to it.
 
AJ McCarron is a pretty accurate comparison IMO. Ewers makes about one throw a game where you think “wow” but he will also have some throws that leave you scratching your head. He’s not a special player and that’s why he’s not seen as a 1st round pick.
Except McCarron never threw any wow throws.

which is why he went in the 5th round
 
Texas fan base is complaining about the defense. Against KSU we gave up 30 points with 13 points off of two bad turnovers deep in our own territory and than another 7 points off a punt block. Alabama gave up 28 points to LSU this weekend but get much more credit because it was LSU.
LSU is loaded on offense.
 
He hasn't remotely showed that he can consistently hit those throws.

He hit two vs. Alabama and there hasn't really been a return to it.
And those two were huge--at huge moments. Those weren't the only two he's hit--he had a couple against ou as I recall.

I haven't disagreed with what you've said. I'm saying that you using the word "sucks" is a little overstated.
Slovis--now that guys sucks! That is my definition of a sucky qb--and that's just on example of some of the QBs in this league.
 
I’m not underselling anything. His stats are a good but not great player. You keep mentioning Murphy in his second start with limited reps, which I understand, but Ewers had some awful games a year ago (OSU game). Ewers does enough for this team to win but he’s not a great player. Idk why you can’t see that. He’s not being talked about as a first or even second rounder. He’s not special. Btw, Worthy wasn’t going to come close to breaking 1k yards with Ewers. These players are elite, but they aren’t putting up amazing numbers with the exception of Brooks, which Ewers has nothing to do with.

The main reason I don’t believe he will get any better is because he has elite talent right now, and he’s nothing more than a game manager with them. If Worthy or Mitchell were on par for monster seasons than my assessment would be wrong.
I never said he was a great QB--you said I said that--I never did. But I think he's very good and getting better as a college quarterback. You don't go into Tuscaloosa--smack 4&5 star players around who are coached by the greatest coach in history, and who haven't lost since, without having something. Not even this year--look what he did to them last year. Very few QBs have done that. That counts for something

You just don't like Ewers.
 
I never said he was a great QB--you said I said that--I never did. But I think he's very good and getting better as a college quarterback. You don't go into Tuscaloosa--smack 4&5 star players around who are coached by the greatest coach in history, and who haven't lost since, without having something. Not even this year--look what he did to them last year. Very few QBs have done that. That counts for something

You just don't like Ewers.
You are taking one game where he was very good and making it seem like he has played at that same level for the entire season, which he has not. He turned the ball over three times against Oklahoma and that is why we lost. So, you can’t take any one game and generalize their performance.
 
Except McCarron never threw any wow throws.

which is why he went in the 5th round
What round do you think ewers would be drafted? It’s a loaded Qb draft class, I think he could easily fall to 3rd-4th round.
 
And those two were huge--at huge moments. Those weren't the only two he's hit--he had a couple against ou as I recall.

I haven't disagreed with what you've said. I'm saying that you using the word "sucks" is a little overstated.
Slovis--now that guys sucks! That is my definition of a sucky qb--and that's just on example of some of the QBs in this league.

a. His receivers made those plays more than he did.
b. No, they really haven't thrown those vertical balls much since then.
 
Texas fan base is complaining about the defense. Against KSU we gave up 30 points with 13 points off of two bad turnovers deep in our own territory and than another 7 points off a punt block. Alabama gave up 28 points to LSU this weekend but get much more credit because it was LSU.
LSU was leading college football in total offense and points scored entering the game (they are now 3rd in scoring).
 
Yes, in 2006 and 2007.
Limas Sweed had his best season in 06, so I’d say he got better due to Colt. Jermichael Finley was pretty damn good in 07. We all know Colt made Cosby and Shipley better. Do you confidently believe that if Ewers stays another year that he will be at the same level as Colt in 08?
 
a. His receivers made those plays more than he did.
b. No, they really haven't thrown those vertical balls much since then.
Both receivers and Ewers share credit for those plays--those were perfectly placed balls--can't take that away from him.
I've seen a few vertical balls--that TD pass to Worthy was pretty deep sir--and right on the money. And he threw some pretty good vertical balls against ou in that second half.
 
You are taking one game where he was very good and making it seem like he has played at that same level for the entire season, which he has not. He turned the ball over three times against Oklahoma and that is why we lost. So, you can’t take any one game and generalize their performance.
No, I'm not just taking one game--he's actually played pretty well all season, if you look at his numbers (which you haven't) you'd see that.
But that one game mattered and is weighted more heavily than most of the other games. We haven't seen a performance like that in years--and I mean years.
He threw 2 picks (one where the receiver did absolutely nothing to prevent the INT) in the first half--second half he was on fire in that game.
The ou loss was more on the defense, along with dumb play calling and game management by his head coach than it was on Quinn. The rest of the team has to step up.
 
No, I'm not just taking one game--he's actually played pretty well all season, if you look at his numbers (which you haven't) you'd see that.
But that one game mattered and is weighted more heavily than most of the other games. We haven't seen a performance like that in years--and I mean years.
He threw 2 picks (one where the receiver did absolutely nothing to prevent the INT) in the first half--second half he was on fire in that game.
The ou loss was more on the defense, along with dumb play calling and game management by his head coach than it was on Quinn. The rest of the team has to step up.
Agree to disagree.
 
Both receivers and Ewers share credit for those plays--those were perfectly placed balls--can't take that away from him.
I've seen a few vertical balls--that TD pass to Worthy was pretty deep sir--and right on the money. And he threw some pretty good vertical balls against ou in that second half.
By perfectly thrown up into the air so that his receivers had to make incredible mid-air adjustments on them to make the catches over their shoulders.... sure.

They are better catches than throws.
 
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Statistically, yes…
And that was due to Colt McCoy?

Or he would have posted very, very good numbers, regardless of his quarterback to some degree because of his continued evolution as a player?

Because he was a a critical piece of the 2005 team and that had nothing to do or due to Colt McCoy.
 
And that was due to Colt McCoy?

Or he would have posted very, very good numbers, regardless of his quarterback to some degree because of his continued evolution as a player?

Because he was a a critical piece of the 2005 team and that had nothing to do or due to Colt McCoy.
I can only give you stats. I believe Colt did in fact make him better. I also believe Colt made Cosby and Shipley better as evidenced by their stats. Ewers hasn’t made anybody better, because that’s not who he is, and that’s fine. We don’t need a great QB this year in order to win, but the next couple of years will be different because our competition will be better.
 
Limas Sweed had his best season in 06, so I’d say he got better due to Colt. Jermichael Finley was pretty damn good in 07. We all know Colt made Cosby and Shipley better. Do you confidently believe that if Ewers stays another year that he will be at the same level as Colt in 08?
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I can only give you stats. I believe Colt did in fact make him better. I also believe Colt made Cosby and Shipley better as evidenced by their stats. Ewers hasn’t made anybody better, because that’s not who he is, and that’s fine. We don’t need a great QB this year in order to win, but the next couple of years will be different because our competition will be better.
I can't give Colt McCoy credit for making players better.

Maybe those players made him better.
 
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Limas Sweed had his best season in 06, so I’d say he got better due to Colt. Jermichael Finley was pretty damn good in 07. We all know Colt made Cosby and Shipley better. Do you confidently believe that if Ewers stays another year that he will be at the same level as Colt in 08?
Ewers makes players better if you throw Jermichael Finley in this argument. JT Sanders comes to mind last year when Quinn was out and this year Sanders is almost forgotten with out Quinn. JT sanders and Xavier Worthy are missing Quinn.
 
Let's go 14-1 win the whole damn thing than bring everyone back and run it back!

JT, X, AD, Brooks, Quinn, Watts, Collins, Byron - if I am missing any early entry NFL draft players than they should probably come back too.
 
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