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Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Let's keep it real about Quinn)

He was the number 1 recruit. He should be in the same conversation.
I do think we overrated him as a prospect. He had flaws in high school that have been issues in college and when I pointed them out back then, people were laughing me out of the room.
 
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Ewers is significantly better right now than Colt was in 2007.
I don’t disagree with that, but I’m not expecting Ewers to become a playmaker like Colt did. We have AJ McCarron at the helm with Ewers. A solid player who manages the game. You can win national championships with that. Will he be more than that? Doubtful.
 
That's sort of the point. The seasons listed for each guy was Year 2 in college, not the NFL. Although they were all lower rated recruits than Ewers, they were extremely good players from the moment they hit the field as True sophomores or RS freshmen. If you're a special player, it doesn't necessarily take years for that to show up on the field.

I will totally buy that he's not as good as his ranking said he should be.

I just think there's more in him that a little extra time in the oven and a little more seasoning might provide.

He could be Carson Palmer-ish.
 
I do think we overrated him as a prospect. He had flaws in high school that have been issues in college and when I pointed them out back then, people were laughing me out of the room.
He’s playing more like a high 4 star IMO.
 
I don’t disagree with that, but I’m not expecting Ewers to become a playmaker like Colt did. We have AJ McCarron at the helm with Ewers. A solid player who manages the game. You can win national championships with that. Will he be more than that? Doubtful.
The thing is back in 2007, people were really, really down on Colt and believed that 2006 was kind of a fluke and that he wasn't gong to take a future step.

Sometimes you have to let these dudes slowly grow. Sometimes they don't, sometimes, they do.
 
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I will totally buy that he's not as good as his ranking said he should be.

I just think there's more in him that a little extra time in the oven and a little more seasoning might provide.

He could be Carson Palmer-ish.
Carson Palmer was the number 1 overall pick and a Heisman Trophy winner. Say Quinn comes back next year and pulls that off wouldn't that justify his ranking?? Say he becomes a top 15 Pick in 2025 first Team All American & invited to New York for ceremony.
 
The thing is back in 2007, people were really, really down on Colt and believed that 2006 was kind of a fluke and that he wasn't gong to take a future step.

Sometimes you have to let these dudes slowly grow. Sometimes they don't, sometimes, they do.
I saw things in Colts game that gave me hope. I don’t see that with Ewers.
 
Carson Palmer was the number 1 overall pick and a Heisman Trophy winner. Say Quinn comes back next year and pulls that off wouldn't that justify his ranking?? Say he becomes a top 15 Pick in 2025 first Team All American & invited to New York for ceremony.
In Palmer's 3rd season (he redshirted his second season), he threw 16 touchdowns and 18 interceptions, while posting a 118.0 efficiency ranking.

Two seasons later, he threw 33 touchdowns and 10 interceptions.
 
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I saw things in Colts game that gave me hope. I don’t see that with Ewers.

I don't recall many people talking about hope when he was outplayed by Josh Freeman at home that year and lost to OU the next week.

Or when they lost to A&M and he was 17 of 32 for 229 yards.

I'm not saying I don't believe you, but I wish we had some archives that allowed you to prove what you're saying.
 
I don't recall many people talking about hope when he was outplayed by Josh Freeman at home that year and lost to OU the next week.

Or when they lost to A&M and he was 17 of 32 for 229 yards.

I'm not saying I don't believe you, but I wish we had some archives that allowed you to prove what you're saying.
The great freshman season is what ultimately made me a believer.
 
The great freshman season is what ultimately made me a believer.
Except a lot of that was really flukey and dependent upon having so many big time players around him. The bloom off that rose started to come off by the end of 2006 and it carried into 2007.,
 
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In Palmer's 3rd season (he redshirted his second season), he threw 16 touchdowns and 18 interceptions, while posting a 118.0 efficiency ranking.

Two seasons later, he threw 33 touchdowns and 10 interceptions.
Exactly there is a process to this. Bo Nix, Michael Penix are having stellar seasons but looking at their 2nd seasons as starters. Penix is a 6th year Senior, Bo Nix 5th Year Senior. I agree with you the best thing about the injury is Maalik's performance has left a lo to be desired and now all Texas fans may appreciate Quinn more and maybe that will help with the fan base. The bad part his he could have had some stat padding games against BYU and Kansas State plus the rest of the schedule TCU, Iowa State and Tech.
 
Except a lot of that was really flukey and dependent upon having so many big time players around him. The bloom off that rose started to come off by the end of 2006 and it carried into 2007.,
that 2006 team was loaded with talent everywhere. That team underperformed. Has the Big 12 Championship but the Colt Injury with final two losses at Kstate and Texas A&M really derailed that season.
 
They were ok. I'm defending Ewers in this thread, but his deep passing does kind of suck.
I don't think it sucks--that's an exaggeration. He's shown he can hit the deep ball--is it his strong suit--no, but I saying it "sucks?" It doesn't suck.
 
Except a lot of that was really flukey and dependent upon having so many big time players around him. The bloom off that rose started to come off by the end of 2006 and it carried into 2007.,
Ewers has tons of playmakers and they aren’t having big seasons. At least Colt made players better.
 
Ewers has tons of playmakers and they aren’t having big seasons. At least Colt made players better.
Prior to injury Quinn was on Pace have close to 4k yards passing the most in a single season and 26 passing touchdowns top 5 in single season. Adonai Mitchell and Xavier Worthy on pace to have both over 800 yards passing with Mitchell over 10 TDs. Are expectations (mine included) were extremely high but this team is producing. Brooks is top 6th rushing back in nation.
 
QE should absolutely return, but will ultimately leave when not ready.

IF Texas makes the CCG, I completely agree with you that they will be a tough out. I found myself checking the schedule over again and being so thankful that they weren’t on there. Well….

It’s a shame that going into Tuscaloosa and beating Bama is somewhat overlooked. Hell, they’re already ready to put Bama ahead of Texas in the rankings. Playoffs aren’t looking so good at the moment.
It is a shame. It's Texas squeaking by teams, some bad teams like houston, that is giving them trouble. It would help if they could win more comfortably the next three games.
 
He has improved, no doubt. I just don’t see him getting that much better. He doesn’t see the field well, which is why he doesn’t go through more than 2 reads, and he still has struggles with deep ball accuracy. He’s also injury prone, so you have to assume he’ll miss some games.
which specific games--this year--has he not seen the field well?
 
Prior to injury Quinn was on Pace have close to 4k yards passing the most in a single season and 26 passing touchdowns top 5 in single season. Adonai Mitchell and Xavier Worthy on pace to have both over 800 yards passing with Mitchell over 10 TDs. Are expectations (mine included) were extremely high but this team is producing. Brooks is top 6th rushing back in nation.
Not a single 1000 yard receiver this year or last. 800 yards is okay, but not what we should expect from this offense with this amount of talent. Brooks is a beast, but Ewers has nothing to do with that.
 
He has wide open receivers every game that he misses, hell, even Sark said that he’s not taking the shots that are there.
Every quarterback has wide open receivers--he can only throw the ball once per play, but his completion percentage is almost 71%. That's really good, and very low turnovers--that's not a quarterback that is having trouble seeing down the field.

And I don't remember Sark saying that he's not taking the shots that are there--he was critical last year, but not this year.

and saying that a quarterback isn't taking the shots that are there is not the same thing as saying that he's struggling with the deep ball.
 
I don’t disagree with that, but I’m not expecting Ewers to become a playmaker like Colt did. We have AJ McCarron at the helm with Ewers. A solid player who manages the game. You can win national championships with that. Will he be more than that? Doubtful.
I don’t agree with that. He flashes huge playmaking ability. His issues are with being consistent, not with being limited. An honestly terrible comparison to AJ McCarron
 
Every quarterback has wide open receivers--he can only throw the ball once per play, but his completion percentage is almost 71%. That's really good, and very low turnovers--that's not a quarterback that is having trouble seeing down the field.

And I don't remember Sark saying that he's not taking the shots that are there--he was critical last year, but not this year.

and saying that a quarterback isn't taking the shots that are there is not the same thing as saying that he's struggling with the deep ball.
His percentage is high because he has turned into a checkdown machine. There are open receivers that he is not seeing. He’s not a difference maker and that’s okay. We don’t need him to be. We’re winning because he takes care of the ball, not because he’s putting up heisman level stats. His deep ball accuracy is not what it should be, but it’s better than last year.
 
I don’t agree with that. He flashes huge playmaking ability. His issues are with being consistent, not with being limited. An honestly terrible comparison to AJ McCarron
AJ McCarron is a pretty accurate comparison IMO. Ewers makes about one throw a game where you think “wow” but he will also have some throws that leave you scratching your head. He’s not a special player and that’s why he’s not seen as a 1st round pick.
 
Texas fan base is complaining about the defense. Against KSU we gave up 30 points with 13 points off of two bad turnovers deep in our own territory and than another 7 points off a punt block. Alabama gave up 28 points to LSU this weekend but get much more credit because it was LSU.
 
Texas fan base is complaining about the defense. Against KSU we gave up 30 points with 13 points off of two bad turnovers deep in our own territory and than another 7 points off a punt block. Alabama gave up 28 points to LSU this weekend but get much more credit because it was LSU.
Are you suggesting that LSU and KSU are equally good offenses?
 
AJ McCarron is a pretty accurate comparison IMO. Ewers makes about one throw a game where you think “wow” but he will also have some throws that leave you scratching your head. He’s not a special player and that’s why he’s not seen as a 1st round pick.
I was actually thinking of McElroy now that you mention it. But i still think Quinn flashes way more than you give credit for. The issue is consistency.
 
Are you suggesting that LSU and KSU are equally good offenses?
I am suggesting that KSU just came off of two weeks where they outscored conference opponents 84-3 and Texas Defense is getting crapped on for allowing 30 points while Alabama is playing better allowing 28 points.
 
His percentage is high because he has turned into a checkdown machine. There are open receivers that he is not seeing. He’s not a difference maker and that’s okay. We don’t need him to be. We’re winning because he takes care of the ball, not because he’s putting up heisman level stats. His deep ball accuracy is not what it should be, but it’s better than last year.
His completion percentage is high because he's completing passes--whether or not he checks down or doesn't checkdown.

He's a total difference maker--he was the major reason we beat Alabama--the marquee game of the year, in many years.
the second half of the ou game his numbers were off the charts great.

He's been the cornerstone of all of these games. And these last two games have really shown his absence. Maalik is not even close to Ewers--we need the guy back in a big way.

AND It would help if we had a secondary that could stop somebody. 🙂
 
I am suggesting that KSU just came off of two weeks where they outscored conference opponents 84-3 and Texas Defense is getting crapped on for allowing 30 points while Alabama is playing better allowing 28 points.
So yes, essentially.
 
I was actually thinking of McElroy now that you mention it. But i still think Quinn flashes way more than you give credit for. The issue is consistency.
I agree his issue is consistency. The question becomes will that part of his game ever get better? I tend to think it won’t.
 
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