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Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Patterson has been UT's daddy lately and that needs to change)

easy now. That's getting a little carried away IMO.

And Brewer is just a small peg in the offense THIS year. Smythe's presence would greatly impact the offense this year in a number of capacities. It's the difference between having a bunch of JAGs and a guy that will start for an NFL team some day.

I'm not looking at star ranking. I already see a guy in Brewer who's got what it takes easily to play in the NFL. He's already north of 230. He's an adept AND willing blocker. He's a physical runner after the catch. I mean, if you want to consider Brewer a JAG then feel free to do so. But he's more than that. Much more.
 
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After re-watching the game, I am concerned that the TCU defense will decimate our offensive line.

The OC better have a plan that fits the players capabilities (regardless of QB) or it will be a long night.

Please, no QB rotation, pick one and stay with him. The OC plan cannot be the same for both.
 
I'm not looking at star ranking. I already see a guy in Brewer who's got what it takes easily to play in the NFL. He's already north of 230. He's an adept AND willing blocker. He's a physical runner after the catch. I mean, if you want to consider Brewer a JAG then feel free to do so. But he's more than that. Much more.
I'm not the guy comparing him to the greatest tight end the school has had in at least the last 27 year after he's caught less than one pass per game this year.

He's not an impact player right now. He has a chance to be down the road, but I'd suggest slowing down with the hyperbole.

He'd never see the field with Smythe in front of him. He plays now out of pure need.
 
is there really.... really... a top four?
IMO it would be
1. Bama
2. Georgia
3. ND




4 - 10

To answer your question, no there probably isn't at this point. 1,2 and 3 are locks in my opinion and ND took Georgia to the end losing by 1 point to lock in the 3rd spot. Then there is Wisky, who hasn't played anyone yet so i'm throwing them in there just based on 8-0 record. Oklahoma narrowly escaped an awful Baylor team and descent Kstate team. Their defense is garbage and they lose at least one more game probably OSU. tOSU is looking stronger now than they did against OU and PSU still looks strong minus their debacle against tOSU.
 
I'm not the guy comparing him to the greatest tight end the school has had in at least the last 27 year after he's caught less than one pass per game this year.

He's not an impact player right now. He has a chance to be down the road, but I'd suggest slowing down with the hyperbole.

He'd never see the field with Smythe in front of him. He plays now out of pure need.

I'm comparing him to Thomas at the same stage and how he projects forward.
 
a. Who pretended that the staff works in a static universe.
b. No one ignored Mehringer moving up to the booth.
c. Let's not pretend that things were THAT dramatic, they were just better. More tactically tight.

Are you speculating that Mehringer ,a guy whose position has struggled all season in various answers, was the No.1 reason for improvement this week.

Don't be lazy, finish your thought.
Your position of it's all on Beck, good or bad can only be true if the roles of the staff are static. Improvement can be the result of assistance from others. It also either ignores any possible reason for and impact of Mehringer being in the both.

Things were dramatically different at times considering it was it was Shane, not Sam leading the offense. We have been lectured regarding Shane's inadequacies. It wasn't just tight, RBs received back to back carries. The ball was thrown deep and over the middle.

You took the position that if Beck is blamed, he is also the one to be applauded. I contend that he more likely had outside help than an epiphany.

The WR group needs to improve at blocking, and I suspect that has much to do with playing time. They have also saved the QBs and drives by making many toe in bounds catches on the sideline. The group is definitely not one of the glaring issues with this offense.

I am allowing for the possibility that improvement in playcalling is from Mehringer, Herman...,not just Beck finally figuring things out.

I don't know what caused the change, but to me, it was dramatic and could have resulted from several factors, not exclusively Beck. Your position, as written shuts the door on everything other than Beck being the reason.
 
Ask David Ash's opinion on this. Too much at stake for an 18,19, 20 year old to push the envelope. They have the rest of their lives to think about.
Not every QB who gets a concussion (very common occurrence) turns into David Ash and has to stop playing. even then the ultimate issues that caused him to stop ended up being migraine related.

So just wrap Sam up in bubble wrap the rest of the year and ban him from playing just because? I’m inclined to go with actual doctors and if he’s been cleared to play then he should start
 
Not every QB who gets a concussion (very common occurrence) turns into David Ash and has to stop playing. even then the ultimate issues that caused him to stop ended up being migraine related.

So just wrap Sam up in bubble wrap the rest of the year and ban him from playing just because? I’m inclined to go with actual doctors and if he’s been cleared to play then he should start
I was making a general comment about concussions for college football players. If medical doctors clear Sam to play in this instance, I have no problem with him playing.

In general though, if concussion protocol changes so that there is a mandatory amount of time that must pass after a player is diagnosed with a concussion, I'd be in favor of erring on side of caution for players that are this young, for injuries that could affect them the rest of their lives.

I think championship college football teams need to be 2 deep at EVERY position.

As for Ash, I'm no doctor but could the migraines be a result of so many concussions? Do we even know at this point?
 
IMO it would be
1. Bama
2. Georgia
3. ND




4 - 10

To answer your question, no there probably isn't at this point. 1,2 and 3 are locks in my opinion and ND took Georgia to the end losing by 1 point to lock in the 3rd spot. Then there is Wisky, who hasn't played anyone yet so i'm throwing them in there just based on 8-0 record. Oklahoma narrowly escaped an awful Baylor team and descent Kstate team. Their defense is garbage and they lose at least one more game probably OSU. tOSU is looking stronger now than they did against OU and PSU still looks strong minus their debacle against tOSU.
a. I won't quibble too much with your top three. You can absolutely justify that.

b. Nowhere in that second part did you mention that Oklahoma beat Ohio State in Columbus by two touchdowns.
 
I'm comparing him to Thomas at the same stage and how he projects forward.
I think comparing them at the same stage is not apples to apples. I'm just saying to be careful with those projections.

Technically, Kerstter is ahead of Justin Blalock if we're simply comparing year one of his body of work vs. year one of a redshirting Blalock.
 
Not every QB who gets a concussion (very common occurrence) turns into David Ash and has to stop playing. even then the ultimate issues that caused him to stop ended up being migraine related.

So just wrap Sam up in bubble wrap the rest of the year and ban him from playing just because? I’m inclined to go with actual doctors and if he’s been cleared to play then he should start
I'm only suggesting bubble wrap for an extra week.
 
I was making a general comment about concussions for college football players. If medical doctors clear Sam to play in this instance, I have no problem with him playing.

In general though, if concussion protocol changes so that there is a mandatory amount of time that must pass after a player is diagnosed with a concussion, I'd be in favor of erring on side of caution for players that are this young, for injuries that could affect them the rest of their lives.

I think championship college football teams need to be 2 deep at EVERY position.

As for Ash, I'm no doctor but could the migraines be a result of so many concussions? Do we even know at this point?
The science behind all of this is developing, which is why I'm dubious of doctors clearing kids days after suffering once because they were symptom free for a whole three straight days.
 
Great write up Ketch, soccer comments aside. I might have added that maybe Shane (or Sam) still can't get to a third read because this O-Line doesn't give him enough time.

I will admit to thinking Sam is the long term solution but I think both QB's need to keep developing; football is a violent game and Sam's style of play, and HS history, make me think his backup will always be an important position.

But is it me, or do we get the ball in the hands of CJ, RHM, and LJH more when Shane is in the game? I didn't break down film to verify that... I leave that to the experts. And I'm not saying that's Sam's fault, it could be the plays Beck calls when Sam is in the game. But I think it's very important to keep doing that, because every one of those receivers is 1 broken tackle from a TD on just about any pass.
 
The science behind all of this is developing, which is why I'm dubious of doctors clearing kids days after suffering once because they were symptom free for a whole three straight days.
I'm not disagreeing with that one bit. I think in 2-5 years, there will be a rule stating any player with a confirmed concussion will have to wait 7-14 days before any contact. I would be 100% OK with that rule.
 
I think comparing them at the same stage is not apples to apples. I'm just saying to be careful with those projections.

Technically, Kerstter is ahead of Justin Blalock if we're simply comparing year one of his body of work vs. year one of a redshirting Blalock.

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Both played as true frosh. That's a much more "apples to apples" than Kerstetter playing while Blalock redshirted because we had the depth in '02.
 
I'm not disagreeing with that one bit. I think in 2-5 years, there will be a rule stating any player with a confirmed concussion will have to wait 7-14 days before any contact. I would be 100% OK with that rule.
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Both played as true frosh. That's a much more "apples to apples" than Kerstetter playing while Blalock redshirted because we had the depth in '02.
Apples to apples is applesto apples, whether the apples are green or red.

I do not see the next David Thomas in Cade Brewer, even if I think he has a chance to be a very good player.
 
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Apples to apples is applesto apples, whether the apples are green or red.

I do not see the next David Thomas in Cade Brewer, even if I think he has a chance to be a very good player.

Just out of curiosity, what are you not seeing in Brewer? There's a very real possibility that Brewer was criminally underrated.
 
Scuttle talk (fact is) in Wichita Falls is that J T Barrett wanted to be a Longhorn and Texas never came calling....Mack had Swoops and remained content with pedigree names rather than make any attempt for the Rider H S standout....Mack got lazy from the moment "Bama defeated Texas in the National Championship game...the Tide ruptured his soul and the Longhorn coach let down has continued spiraling the Program in the wrong direction ...UNTIL NOW that is...Herman is the answer, I truly believe !!!
 
Just out of curiosity, what are you not seeing in Brewer? There's a very real possibility that Brewer was criminally underrated.
a. I'm not seeing David Thomas or a guy that ends up in that territory.
b. Was he underrated? Yes. Criminally? I dunno about that.

I don't know that we disagree on many things, but we have a slight disagreement here.
 
Scuttle talk (fact is) in Wichita Falls is that J T Barrett wanted to be a Longhorn and Texas never came calling....Mack had Swoops and remained content with pedigree names rather than make any attempt for the Rider H S standout....
That is true.
 
I'm not disagreeing with that one bit. I think in 2-5 years, there will be a rule stating any player with a confirmed concussion will have to wait 7-14 days before any contact. I would be 100% OK with that rule.
OK with me, but you will have to define "confirmed", "concussion" and "contact" to have a meaningful rule, plus defend why you have that specific time frame (why 7 to 14: why not 8 to 12?).

Concussions are always going to involve a LOT of judgment calls. I think a prudent, experienced doctor is the best person to make those calls.
 
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You have my Badgers listed too low in the rankings.
 
a. I'm not seeing David Thomas or a guy that ends up in that territory.

Certainly you can give a specific. Is he adept at blocking? Yes. Particularly relative to his being a frosh, in which he's probably a plus blocker. Is he adept at catching the ball? Yep. Does he run well after the catch? Yep. Is he a physical runner after the catch? Yep. Is he bigger than Thomas a true frosh? Best I can tell, yep.
 
Wow. Your answers were so vague and in fact did not answer the questions but were just some remark that had to be figured out. Not good answers.
 
a. I won't quibble too much with your top three. You can absolutely justify that.

b. Nowhere in that second part did you mention that Oklahoma beat Ohio State in Columbus by two touchdowns.

Everyone knows OU beat tOSU in week two, but IMO they have regressed significantly since that win and tOSU has improved.
 
OK with me, but you will have to define "confirmed", "concussion" and "contact" to have a meaningful rule, plus defend why you have that specific time frame (why 7 to 14: why not 8 to 12?).

Concussions are always going to involve a LOT of judgment calls. I think a prudent, experienced doctor is the best person to make those calls.
a case can be made that experienced doctors have been getting this wrong for decades...
 
Everyone knows OU beat tOSU in week two, but IMO they have regressed significantly since that win and tOSU has improved.
It happened. The result still matters significantly.

I don't recall many taking this position when Texas got shafted exactly like this in 2008.
 
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