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Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Permission to dream big?)

If we were to compile a list of the best receivers in the Texas program since 2000, the list almost certainly would include Roy Williams, B.J. Johnson, Limas Sweed, Quan Cosby, Jordan Shipley, Mike Davis, Humphrey, Johnson and Duvernay. If we rank the sophomore seasons of each player, here's what it looks like:

Roy Williams: 67 receptions for 836 yards and five touchdowns
B.J. Johnson: 41 receptions for 539 yards and four touchdowns
Limas Sweed: 36 receptions for 545 yards and five touchdowns
Quan Cosby: 45 receptions for 525 yards and two touchdowns
Jordan Shipley: 27 receptions for 417 yards and five touchdowns
Mike Davis: 45 receptions for 609 yards and one touchdown
Lil'Jordan Humphrey: 37 receptions for 431 yards and one touchdown
Collin Johnson: 54 receptions for 765 yards and two touchdowns
Devin Duvernay: 9 receptions for 124 yards and zero touchdowns.

From a yardage standpoint, Eagles' sophomore season ranked 7th, while his touchdowns ranked first and his yards per receptions ranked first by almost a full yard (16.3 vs. Shipley's 15.4). In reality, Eagles' 2019 season was one of the best sophomore seasons by any wide receiver in the history of the school.
And yet, had Omeire not been injured, Eagles would be 3rd string. We must be deep at WR.
 
We agree this roster is talented but Ketch is right in the fact we haven’t been shit for a decade now. I’ll believe it when I see it as well
It doesn’t matter what took place before Herman was hired. Texas brought in Herman because he was young, aggressive and innovative. He would not settle for anything less than championships.
Herman red-shirted all of his first three classes, including his transition class of 2017. Of course, that left him with a 2019 playing roster with few upper class men. All for the sake of building for the future.
Then when the injuries hit the defense it left him with a makeshift backfield of inexperienced sophomores and freshmen. This weak defense lead him to become too conservative on offense causing the offense to be to predictable.
He was disappointed in the readiness of the young players and changed staff has put an emphasis on the development of the team three deep this year.
 
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Hey Ketch would you mind looking at Notre Dame's oline recruiting? Three of the five NFL all pro team went there. A fourth Jason Kelce went to Cincinatti about ten years ago. Was Brian Kelly there then. Seems his oline coach must do a pretty good job of evaluations.
 
Barring unforeseen injuries or Covid issues, Texas will win the Big 12. Sam will WIN the Heisman. Texas will WIN the national championship.
Yeah and dinosaurs will walk the earth again by Christmas
 
Hey Ketch would you mind looking at Notre Dame's oline recruiting? Three of the five NFL all pro team went there. A fourth Jason Kelce went to Cincinatti about ten years ago. Was Brian Kelly there then. Seems his oline coach must do a pretty good job.
Give me 5 minutes. Can't believe I forgot about them.
 
(Sell) I have to believe Rattler finishes as a Top 2 quarterback.

This is what sucks. This guy is being ranked by Ketch as the second best QB in the league with ZERO starts and the third best in the league by the original poster.

I understand he was a huge recruit and his coach can manufacture Heisman candidates out of great potential but when the F is OU going to miss on a QB the way we did with GG? When is it their turn to be unlucky AF?
 
pre-season lists haven't mattered in a decade. That you just mentioned them is funny to me.

Caden Sterns is first-team all-Big 12 in the pre-season and he touched a football in a game last season one more time than you did.
You just told me they did matter in LSU’s case. SMH
 
@mi16 Here are the Irish numbers:

Notre Dame

5 stars: 100% (2 of 2)
High 4: 33.3% (2 of 6)
* Mid 4: 16.7% (1 of 6)
Low 4: 28.6% (4 of 14)

Overall: 9 of 28 (32.1%)

One player transferred to BYU and is a senior in 2020, so he could still impact the draft numbers, but it would be a J'Marcus Webb situation.
 
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Million dollar talent, ten cent brain. We even saw it last year when he disappeared for 3-4 games at a stretch.
and yet his final numbers were still impressive, indicating that million dollar talent has importance.
 
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(Sell) I have to believe Rattler finishes as a Top 2 quarterback.

This is what sucks. This guy is being ranked by Ketch as the second best QB in the league with ZERO starts and the third best in the league by the original poster.

I understand he was a huge recruit and his coach can manufacture Heisman candidates out of great potential but when the F is OU going to miss on a QB the way we did with GG? When is it their turn to be unlucky AF?
OU is due.
 
You just told me they did matter in LSU’s case. SMH
returning 1st and second team All-SEC players from the previous season... keep up.

which to be fair, wasn't many. LSU is kind of an exception to the norm.

Oklahoma returns 5
Texas returns 1
 
returning 1st and second team All-SEC players from the previous season... keep up.

which to be fair, wasn't many. LSU is kind of an exception to the norm.

Oklahoma returns 5
Texas returns 1
Oh in that case LSU had 1 with Delpit. So ya didn’t matter.
 
If you consumed all of that data and don't understand why it's valuable, it might just be that these types of content items aren't for you.

Beyond a shadow of a doubt, I have put in your lap a value system in recruiting that when applied to every recruit that Texas signs should provide a realistic snapshot of the expectations that one should have for them.

If that's not sinking in with specific detail, my stuff isn't for you as it relates to written content.
He just pointed out that making predictions based on results from an entirely different program from the AD on down is not reasonable.
No one disagrees with your data.
 
@mi16 Here are the Irish numbers:

Notre Dame

5 stars: 100% (2 of 2)
High 4: 33.3% (2 of 6)
* Mid 4: 16.7% (1 of 6)
Low 4: 28.6% (4 of 14)

Overall: 9 of 28 (32.1%)


One player transferred to BYU and is a senior in 2020, so he could still impact the draft numbers, but it would be a J'Marcus Webb situation.
Thanks
 
Final Four , Sam gets it done with New down field scheme and with WR and RB groups going the distance.
Ash creates havoc on D
 
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I made it a point to watch all wins from last season and the LSU game. By the end of the season, you could tell Ehlinger was not the same QB that we saw vs. LSU. It seemed he lost trust in his WR's. He held the ball too long. By the Kansas game, Grip it and rip it was the motto. Sam said, it is much easier said, than done.

Hypothetical: Ehlinger goes down with season ending injury vs. UTEP. Does Texas welcome him back next year, or do they get him ready for the NFL?

Texas playing 2 TE's during scrimmage tells me the WR trust is still not there. Iowa State does not have the historical talent UT has at WR; therefore, they play 2 TE's. I would not mind seeing Texas look like the New England Patriots or even Iowa State if it meant 9-1 vs. 7-3. I really am starting to believe you are on to something with 7-3, unfortunately.
 
I think Tom just needs to put it all together and he hasn't done that once in his entire career. Even in his best season, he dropped games he shouldn't have.


I think Herman puts a lot of stock in hyping his players ala Knute Rockne. Obviously works very well on some big-time games, but loses its value in week to week games.

I think it might foster doubt among players when games should be won with ordinary effort. A lot of quiet, encouraging talk, even individually by coaches, may be of more value in routine situations.
 
I’m just going to disagree on 45 tds. I think it is in realm of possibilities that Yurcich makes a huge difference on offense and we start throwing up Oklahoma and Oklahoma State offensive numbers.

Justin Fields had 51 in 14 games last year, and Jalen Hurts 53. Those guys didn't even hit the four-TD per game average.
 
Then we need to make sure we have the proper coaching staff in place.

Covid is only going to make the gap between haves and have nots wider. If we don’t take advantage of this year, we have no one to blame but our leadership.

barring a Sam Ehlinger injury, I’ll predict 9-1, then win conference title. Get busy winning or get busy dying.

eh. I don't know about that second part. It's so unpredictable. What if one team one week is without its starting QB and LT and the other team isn't? There are a lot of potentially odd scenarios that could happen because of the virus, exposure, contact tracing, etc.
 
The SEC forever gets the benefit of the doubt.

Never forget that. I agree that three feels extreme.
100%! College football desperately needs the parity that existed at the end of the last century (1999 season) in order to counter the SEC bias that's developed the last 20 years.

National Championships: 1980 - 1999
6 -- Independents (Miami, Penn State, Notre Dame)
5 -- Big 8 (Nebraska, OU, Colorado)
4 -- ACC (Florida State, Clemson, GA Tech)
4 -- SEC (Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, Alabama)
1 -- Big Ten (Michigan)
1 -- Pac-10 (Washington)
1 -- Big East (Miami)
1 -- WAC (BYU)
0 -- SWC
 
Well yeah, he was never going to be good as a 4i. He reportedly has had a really great camp getting to the QB and is going to be replacing Ojomo on passing downs.

I try to keep up, but have heard very little on camp situations. It kind of bothers me that more is not forthcoming. Have not seen much about Jones, but I hope he is productive.
 
Pretty intriguing piece by Ketch about the coming season and the history of OL recruiting and development.

Mediocrity has become muscle-memory around this program. Does it have the steel that a guy like Vince Young gave it to pull itself out of the Oklahoma domination 15 years ago? Is that who Sam is?

I think the season should go well (9-1), but Sam's definitely not a transcendent athlete like Vince was. Nevertheless, Sam has a golden opportunity in every game this season to be the more experienced QB surrounded by the most experienced team, while facing what some feel is the easiest schedule the Longhorns have had in a decade.
 
I agree with you 100% but I’m going to play Ketchum for a second .

What makes Yurcich awesome? He was fired from Ok State and wasn’t the one calling plays at Ohio State. Also, Coleman wasn’t retained by the new staff at KSU or hired by anyone when he was fired before he became a GA here.

What makes them upgrades as Herman had a top 15 offense.
Yurcich has made every offense he’s been apart improve. He was great at OK St and OSU also took another step forward when he came on board. He’s worked with some of the brightest offensive minds in football it’s hard to imagine him not making Texas a top 5-7 offense. Hell we were 13 last year and couldn’t get into any kind of rhythm for over half the season. Andre Coleman is definitely a step above Mehringer. He actually played in the NFL is a former OC and the receivers have raved about his coaching abilities. I think we might actually get some separation this year due to more polished route running and footwork. He stresses those big time in the stuff I’ve watched with him. Consider me a believer.
 
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wow, you have them in the playoffs and they haven't so much as proven anything to you in front of your very eyes?

I mean it’s preseason and I am going off the “on-paper” talent and the advantages we should have in every game especially at the QB position. As you have often noted, QB is where is starts and ends in CFB. They could shit the bed and suck but I don’t think the new OC and DC are less than what we had before and we finally have a good couple of recruiting classes that did not mass atrit and stuck together as Srs and Jrs.

I hear you on show me and I am generally pretty wait and see in CFB but this team has the “plus players” as you call them to get it done.

If we lose 3 games that means we essentially couldn’t beat OSU or OU and we lost one more we absolutely shouldn’t lose. Basically same as last year so no steps forward and a waste of a really good Sr QB. I just don’t think that happens. The stake is in the ground.
 
I made it a point to watch all wins from last season and the LSU game. By the end of the season, you could tell Ehlinger was not the same QB that we saw vs. LSU. It seemed he lost trust in his WR's. He held the ball too long. By the Kansas game, Grip it and rip it was the motto. Sam said, it is much easier said, than done.

Hypothetical: Ehlinger goes down with season ending injury vs. UTEP. Does Texas welcome him back next year, or do they get him ready for the NFL?

Texas playing 2 TE's during scrimmage tells me the WR trust is still not there. Iowa State does not have the historical talent UT has at WR; therefore, they play 2 TE's. I would not mind seeing Texas look like the New England Patriots or even Iowa State if it meant 9-1 vs. 7-3. I really am starting to believe you are on to something with 7-3, unfortunately.
I think Texas would take him back, but I think he'd give some consideration to going pro and figuring it out there.
 
Pretty intriguing piece by Ketch about the coming season and the history of OL recruiting and development.



I think the season should go well (9-1), but Sam's definitely not a transcendent athlete like Vince was. Nevertheless, Sam has a golden opportunity in every game this season to be the more experienced QB surrounded by the most experienced team, while facing what some feel is the easiest schedule the Longhorns have had in a decade.
It all makes sense on paper.

Here's my thing.

Everyone keeps saying that this season will be about the teams that are the most disciplined, most consistent, most mature and most focused.

Can we honestly say that this is who Texas is at this point?
 
Yurcich has made every offense he’s been apart improve. He was great at OK St and OSU also took another step forward when he came on board. He’s worked with some of the brightest offensive minds in football it’s hard to imagine him not making Texas a top 5-7 offense. Hell we were 13 last year and couldn’t get into any kind of rhythm for over half the season. Andre Coleman is definitely a step above Mehringer. He actually played in the NFL is a former OC and the receivers have raved about his coaching abilities. I think we might actually get some separation this year due to more polished route running and footwork. He stresses those big time in the stuff I’ve watched with him. Consider me a believer.
How did Ohio State take a step forward?
 
I mean it’s preseason and I am going off the “on-paper” talent and the advantages we should have in every game especially at the QB position. As you have often noted, QB is where is starts and ends in CFB. They could shit the bed and suck but I don’t think the new OC and DC are less than what we had before and we finally have a good couple of recruiting classes that did not mass atrit and stuck together as Srs and Jrs.

I hear you on show me and I am generally pretty wait and see in CFB but this team has the “plus players” as you call them to get it done.

If we lose 3 games that means we essentially couldn’t beat OSU or OU and we lost one more we absolutely shouldn’t lose. Basically same as last year so no steps forward and a waste of a really good Sr QB. I just don’t think that happens. The stake is in the ground.
Fair enough!
 
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