Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Possible insight on UT's next OC?)
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There are any number of reasons why those "thousands" of coaches never make it to the level where Shaka is and none of them have to do with their ability to coach. For whatever oddball reason you can't see beyond that. By your reasoning Charlie Strong is a "damn good coach." What does that tell you about your reasoning?
There are about 350 head college BB coaches.
If you open it up to every assistant and AAU and 6th grade coach, you make no point at all. You have no idea who almost all those people are, let alone what the critieria for success is. If you open it up to coaches in college alone, and include assistant, Shaka isnt the best coach at Texas.
OK, at least now you are putting context into one of the goofiest claims ever on this board. Under your criteria, Shaka could be the worst coach in college BB, a claim I would say might be true.
Butt since he is the head coach on a college team, he is likely better than the tens of thousands of dads who who coach their kids in Y ball. Which is a claim I would argue isnt true, but none of us have any way of knowing that, and its a meaningless claim in any event.
Speaking of "Goofy" ... I wish you and your family a most joyous and Merry Christmas!!! We will see about the HNY after the bowl game ...
I'll never forget watching Derick Roberson absolutely wreck people in person. He'd run down the field on kickoffs and just level guys. Was really surprised it didn't all click in a big way at a big-time college, but not surprised to see he found his way onto a NFL field. Good for him.
But how was that not an offensive foul? Love was in position when Morant launched himself, and he didn't quite clear him, so he ending up in essence launching himself into him. Seems like a charge.
Yeah 2 yr juco transfer that had 1 major impact season is a reach, of sorts.
I was thinking about which players were most responsible for our best season of the decade.
Sam, Omenihu, & Gary were the 3 names that came to mind.
And I thought that I had "dared take those reasons on." Perhaps my discourse was too reasoned.
Well, you also didn't take me on either when I posed my final thought, namely
"One last thought. The University of Texas is paying him a boatload of money and they are not getting their return. I invite you to tell me that they are, and why."
Ketch wants him to be in that 1% because he is a good person. You are not in that 1% if you can’t get your shit together at Texas over five years. That’s a fact.
Not as a basketball coach. His havoc style got him to final four years ago b/c it caught teams by surprise. Can't run that in a good conference which is why he dropped it shortly after getting here.
As far as coaching skill, he trails Barnes by a bunch. That's kind of obvious now.
I'm not interested in what a good person he is (I don't know him), more interested in how successful he is at his profession, and he's been a huge disappointment as a coach.
Agree to disagree as to his coaching skill, or lack thereof.
Ketch, this context of yours is irrelevant. It’s irrelevant to the players the coach recruits, the administration, and the school’s fans. Nobody is concerned with the broadest context or definition of a pool of coaches.
Texas hired Shaka to be in the top 5 - 10% of the coaches in the population of 351, not because he is among the top 1% of 10,000 coaches in America.
This is the wrong hill to die on.
Come on.
Jerry Jones peaked in 1989. He hired Jimmy! He has done a great job marketing a losing team but Jimmy put all the pieces together for all 3 super bowls despite Jerry.
Again, he's been to a final four at a non-power five program, has been to the tournament in 7 of his 10 seasons as a head coach, is viewed incredibly favorably by USA Basketball and is one of the top 20 paid highest-paid people in his profession.
This has nothing to do with him as a human being.
This is a non-confirmation biased thought based on what he's done, how high he's climbed, his value in the marketplace and the fact that non-Texas based institutions think the world of him (USA Basketball).
I don't think we're discussing the same thing. You're suggesting I'm saying something that I'm not. He's been a failure at Texas, a massive one.
Did Jimmy stop being a damned good coach when he went to the Dolphins because he was a failure there?
I went in with low expectations and was surprised how much I enjoyed it.
I rewatched FA and LJ the night before watching ROS and I think that helped me appreciate the new movie more.
It certainly has it flaws, but for whatever reason, I really enjoyed it.
Did Shaka win 2 NCAA titles with VCU? Because Jimmy won 2 titles in 5 years with Dallas. He also won a title with the Miami Hurricanes in 1987. Johnson also made the playoffs 3 out of 4 seasons in Miami and won 2 playoff games. Shaka has made the tournament in 2 of 4 seasons and has 0 wins.
Yes it does. And I for one thought you meant Division I college coaches. And I suspect the rest of us did too. If you include all the basketball coaches in the United States - heck, the entire world - then I'll agree that Shaka is in the 1%.
