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Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (The latest on Micah Hudson isn't great...)

Not worried about Hudson at all.

There are going to be some bumps in the road with this recruitment.

There will be some major potholes with Simmons too.

In the end, X, JWhitt and Mitchell will be moving on. Micah can see their NIL deals. He’s more than aware of playing with Arch in the near future.

He’ll visit. All good.
I don't know that you know enough about the issues that exist to have a fully rounded take.

That being said, it's certainly possible that you could be correct.

The fact that the official visit is being counted on is ironically one of the issues that created this issue that has sprung up.
 
Nice diversion @Ketchum with the RB rankings 😂

Back to Hudson, sounds like he has an issue with our new WR coach. Reading between the lines, he loves the way Tech has treated him (most likely like the diva, big fish in an almost non-existent pond in Lubbock he would be), and probably isn’t fond of the former NFL coach treating him like a man and vowing to bust his ass daily to get the best out of him.

If $2m is enough to get you to a school where no one will notice you, have at it. My guess is he takes their $2m then transfers out his junior year, takes another $2m from someone like USC to boost his draft stock.

Give me a transfer portal WR every year over that type of guy. We have had enough of Worthy’s nonsense, Hudson sounds like the second coming of him.

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I have not heard he has any issues with Chris jackson. He might not know him as well as some others recruiting him, but Jackson is not truly at the center of what I've heard popped up.
 
Why is Tim Brady the best quarterback in the history of the NFL over Peyton Manning when Manning had more MVPs?

Because Brady was a much bigger contributor to the outcome of his teams than smith was to the cowboys / by a large margin even

I hear your points I just don’t think they’re valid in making smith the all time best rb

You don’t listen to or even respond to the points of the posts you don’t want to hear
 
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Except when people talk about Lebron.

What’s his finals record again?

What’s Russell’s , Jordan’s, Duncan’s, Kobe’s , Magics ?
LeBron has more rings than almost every all-time great in basketball from the modern era.

I don't really listen to the argument that he's No.1 all-time.

I would say the fact that he's been the Finals 10 times is a feather in his cap, not something to beat him up over.
 
They dont have the QB the OL the conference or the OC that Texas does. It is not even close with which is the better school and place to live or connections after HS. Silly talk. Who is the highest ranked WR Texas has a good shot to land outside of him?

This recruitment is far from over. Seems like Texas having a good season might make a huge difference. I also wouldn't count out this staff, they are relentless
 
I’ll put it this way

I think Terrell Davis was JAG rb behind a great Denver offensive line and scheme

Look at the success that other rbs had behind that line before he got there - yet you just gave your opinion that he was a borderline top 10 rb

I doubt he is a top 50 rb ever

Do I think the cowboys win multiple Super Bowls with another top 25 rb besides smith in backfield? Absolutely
 
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Where do you rank Ricky Williams as a college player who routinely got shut down by Kansas State?
Was that the only game against big-time competition that he played against?

I was unaware that KSU defined his career, especially when you consider his performance AT Nebraska later in the year, against the Wrecking Crew later that year and even in the Cotton Bowl to complete his career.

Let alone his performances against the likes of A&M in 1995 on the road.
 
You think some are better than others? Barry was an awesome back. But, who do you think was better to take on Seth Joyner on a blitz and not get Aikman killed?

This argument has always been fascinating. Emmitt would have been a worse option for Detroit and vice versa for Dallas plugging away at the NFC East and San Francisco.
Emmitt would have likely never won a ring with Detroit, but he sure as hell would have balled out in the playoffs.

He was built for the moment.
 
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Jim Brown said he didn't watch much football after he retired but he did like to watch Emmitt.

@Ketchum glad you acknowledged Jim Brown's greatness and failings. Brown readily admitted he had a reputation. If you want a sense of the times google his conversation with Lester Maddoxx on the Dick Cavett show from 1970 when he asks Maddoxx if that is why he brought a state trooper to the taping
I watched that video this week. I can';t believe the composure he showed when you consider his reputation for often not having it.
 
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You use the rankings of lists AS the rationale all the time

No other item - just the other rankings

That’s not my criteria for a data point - it’s one you use consistently

So 4 lists - sanders overs smith on every single one - the first four lists that pop up on Google for top rbs of all time

Rankings list are just a data point. It's hardly the only thing I use.

I agree that most people don't rank Emmitt as No.1.

I don't agree and have listed my reasons.

Let me repeat in case you skimmed...

"t's not that he's the NFL's all-time leading rusher. Or that he has scored more touchdowns than any running back that ever played in the NFL. It's that he was directly responsible for being the engine of a dynasty. Take a look at this list and you'll see that Smith has more Super Bowl rings than the entire list added together. When the stakes were the highest, Smith was at his best and it never mattered if he had a separated shoulder in the biggest game of the season ... he delivered."

Did that read like I had just one data point?
 
Larry Allen was a complete athletic freak of an offensive lineman

Emmit smith didn’t make him into a great offensive lineman

What was he behind him pushing him from behind on that amazing play where he chased down that defender an prevented the pick six? It’s such an iconic play for a lineman showing athleticism that people know that play even all this time later
Larry Allen had a very minimal role in Dallas' dynasty.

He wasn't even on the team for two of the three Super Bowls.

Maybe sit this one out and come back next week.
 
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Rankings list are just a data point. It's hardly the only thing I use.

I agree that most people don't rank Emmitt as No.1.

I don't agree and have listed my reasons.

Let me repeat in case you skimmed...

"t's not that he's the NFL's all-time leading rusher. Or that he has scored more touchdowns than any running back that ever played in the NFL. It's that he was directly responsible for being the engine of a dynasty. Take a look at this list and you'll see that Smith has more Super Bowl rings than the entire list added together. When the stakes were the highest, Smith was at his best and it never mattered if he had a separated shoulder in the biggest game of the season ... he delivered."

Did that read like I had just one data point?

No I’m sorry I didn’t mean at all that you didn’t have a valid data point or make any compelling points

You made the post that nobody had presented any data points in response at all - and that simply isn’t true
 
Larry Allen had a very minimal role in Dallas' dynasty.

He wasn't even on the team for two of the three Super Bowls.

Maybe sit this one out and come back next week.

Oh sorry didn’t realize that him being first team all pro on the offensive line six times while smith was running behind him didn’t help smiths stats or help him become the all time yards leader that you cited in your initial post

I must be mistaken
 
I don’t really judge RBs by team success. It probably makes more sense to do it that way as you have numbers to back up your opinion. I have always judged RBs primarily by my own personal eye test. The top 2 for me would be Earl and Barry Sanders. If I had to draft one to start a team I might go with Emmitt Smith though.
I literally have listed a lot of reasons for my choice of Smith.

The focus has been on the side by side comparison to Sanders.

Read the total case made and apply it to all of them.
 
Oh sorry didn’t realize that him being first team all pro on the offensive line six times while smith was running behind him didn’t help smiths stats or help him become the all time yards leader that you cited in your initial post

I must be mistaken
I'm afraid you haven't realized a lot of things in this discussion tonight,

Allen was an all-time player, but his best seasons don't really cross over with Smith prime of prime years.
 
Ketch...I appreciate how you split my two B/S statements. It made more sense to do that, and I agree with your statements after the initial short answers.

Sometimes I do not know how, if any, you might slice and dice the B/S I propose or what level of explanation you will have after you give the short answer.

When I have multiple B/S, I try to phrase them in a manner that makes sense without you doing revisions. Thanks. I think I am better understanding how to tee it up for you and draw you out to have more full explanations. I'll keep plugging away.
I like your questions each week. You're fine. I don't think you need to alter anything.
 
Haha….****ing Emmitt Smith at number 1.

Homer pick of the century.

That’s got to the funniest thing you’ve ever written in the 18 years I’ve been around here.
Oh, I've said funnier things than that. Give my comedic skills some credit.
 
1993 on the road in the final game of the season... absolute do or die.

With a separated shoulder... he carried the team.

Name another running back in NFL history who has ever done given such a performance.

It's what separates the mere all-time greats from the greatest of the all-time greats.

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I'm afraid you haven't realized a lot of things in this discussion tonight,

Allen was an all-time player, but his best seasons don't really cross over with Smith prime of prime years.

I never asserted that those two things intersected

But at least I’m reading your posts and trying to internalize the points you’re making - I’ve got that going for me
 
I want Hudson of course, but if he chooses Tech he will become a non-factor in terms of impact other than hopefully having a great individual career on a team that averages 3-4 losses and has no chance of doing much more.

We won’t even have to play against him. If he makes that bad of a business decision so be it.
I think he might Portal after 1-2 seasons.
 
Your argument against Jim Brown is lazy. He cannot control who he plays against. It is what it is. If you want to use that I’ll say Emmitt Smith played behind probably the best OL in history. So let’s ding him for that.

My argument that he played in the pre-modern era of pro football?

I have him ranked No.2 all-time and literally write that I understand those that have him No.1.

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1993 on the road in the final game of the season... absolute do or die.

With a separated shoulder... he carried the team.

Name another running back in NFL history who has ever done given such a performance.

It's what separates the mere all-time greats from the greatest of the all-time greats.

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Easy answer - super bowl 32

Terrell Davis - 157 rushing yards and three touchdowns with a migraine that was bad enough that he couldn’t stay on the field the entire game
 
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Imagine Cambell on those Cowboys teams. Bo Jackson is the only one i'd even consider if I had to win a game.

Campbell's three-year peak is as good as any back that ever lived. You can make the case because of that that he deserves the top spot., It's an argument that is understandable.

Yet, he rushed for 15 yards in the 1979 AFC title game.
 
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