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Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (About the quarterbacks... Part III)

To me the biggest culprit is the coaches overestimating what they had in thr lines because these guys look SEC but play like AAC.

i get that the talent narrative is overblown, but it was critI ally bare in places. As for development, I for sure see that at O line. But on D it just seems like we really don’t have the horses.
Certainly not for the scheme they are trying to play.
 
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I wouldn't say you started going after Sark but your narrative and tone about the team definitely changed. If you can't see that without quotes and links, that's on you. It's not hard to see.

Is your opinion of Sarkisian the same as it was six weeks ago? Serious question.
 
Agree. With college and pro football, the QB position is critical if u want to win at a high level. However, u r being 2 dramatic and/or critical with Sark, Casey, Card, and this team. This season was and is a new beginning for Sark as a new head coach and Casey and Card as a new starting QB. Reality is a b_tch sometimes. They r all LEARNING ON THE JOB this season. We all have to be patient and let them perform and learn. We played and lost (almost won) to 3 top 25 teams in a row. We didn't get embarrassed and blown out like we did to Arkie. It's like seeing my nephews and nieces learn and grow thru the years. If these results continue during much of next season, then Sark should be on the hot seat. Way 2 early for the Sark drama. We definitely need to see Card play a lot more the rest of the season to see if he has gotten better since Casey is struggling in the 2nd half of games. Kind of like Rising getting his chance at Utah now. PATIENCE is a must this season!!!
The team is 4-4 and has lost three straight games in which they have been outscored 55-10 in the fourth quarters of those games.... and... I'm being dramatic?
 
I have no answers just fatigue like everyone. And no more patience which is my problem I reckon.

ALL THIS related to Texas football.

Fortunately November is here and week one brings us the first look at Chris Beard coaching Texas, and the return of Yellowstone. Texas football is not even in the same stratosphere as those two at this point.
 
Let's not pretend that was really THE issue with Gilbert. He simply wasn't a very good collegiate. And history has shown that Barkley was easily the better of the 2.
It was a pretty big issue. He turned into a guy that labored to throw the football.
 
Without question.

Cowboys have one of the elite RBs in the NFL. And seven games in to the season, he carries the ball a measly 6 times more per game than Pollard. I realize it's not completely an apples to apples things but there is a lot of parallels between the 2 situations.
 
ALL THIS related to Texas football.

Fortunately November is here and week one brings us the first look at Chris Beard coaching Texas, and the return of Yellowstone. Texas football is not even in the same stratosphere as those two at this point.
Oh snap, Yellowstone is almost back. It hadn't sunk in until just now.

Gracias for that!
 
Cowboys have one of the elite RBs in the NFL. And seven games in to the season, he carries the ball a measly 6 times more per game than Pollard. I realize it's not completely an apples to apples things but there is a lot of parallels between the 2 situations.
we are on the same page.

One damn carry in the last 4 games. Even DJ Monroe got more work than that. ;)
 
It was a pretty big issue. He turned into a guy that labored to throw the football.

Meh. He still doesn't throw worth a flip. It really only became an "issue" when he lost the job and needed an excuse to get a medical so he could save a year of eligibility. If not mistaken, he suffered the "injury" as a HS JUNIOR in 2007 yet only had the surgery done 4 years later. Gilbert was simply not a 5-star level QB. If we're being honest, his college play was that of a 3-star given he was average at his BEST at the level of SMU. It's no crime. It's just reality.
 
And that passer rating is horribly skewed And why few even look at it any longer as a real metric. Rex Burkhead threw a pass today. Incomplete. He had a rating of 35 from that. Casey does one of those flip pitches to Bijan who goes 50? That counts the same as a pinpoint bomb.

That’s why everyone looks at QBR. Takes into account the opponent. What actually happens on the play. the Qb’s legs. And so on. Casey is 63rd in the country in QBR.

I could not agree more.
 
Oh snap, Yellowstone is almost back. It hadn't sunk in until just now.

Gracias for that!

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Do you have a post from the off-season where you shared these exact same thoughts or is it only now when the team is 4-4?
No I do not have a post that says they were going to be bad this year. I did not think they should have been ranked pre-season, but the UT media machine and the need in the national sports community to have UT part of the discussion gets them higher ranked than they should. It is 'rat poison'. (The same can be said for recruiting rankings, once UT becomes interested in a kid his rankings often increase, or at least it seems that way, but that is another story.)

I tend to be a wait-and-see-what-happens guy after watching the team and reading the analytical reports and then my opinions start to come together.

Along these lines, I read on here pre-season from you and others on OB (most acutely and accurately by the way) how imperative it was that the QB situation was unsettled and how it would drive how good the team could be. Unfortunately that was the thrust of your column today that it still is in a flux after half a season. If that is the case, and then how could it be a Good Team (as measured by the 2021 season) that Sark inherited? If you need a decent consistent QB to be Good and you do not have one, albeit you are not Good.

On a similar basis, I read preseason in OB by others and you (again acutely and accurately) the overwhelming need to find an Edge Rusher. And as expressed again today, that still has not happened. Without a decent Edge Rusher, how Good can the roster be that Sark inherited?

In addition, I read preseason in OB by others and you (and again acutely and accurately) that the OL was suspect and the need to fill Cosmi's cleats at LT, especially since the QB situation was shaky. And again that player was not on the roster, so how could the inherited team be Good without a reasonable replacement on the roster?

Here are some questions?
  • Without Ehlinger, Ossai and Cosmi would the 2020 be 7-3 or 5-5? If they would have been 7-3 Sark would have inherited a Good Team.
  • How should these 3 glaring holes in the UT Good Team that Sark inherited be filled? The Transfer Portal?
    • There is rarely any mention that the QB and Edge Rusher hole could be filled in this manner...and I am happy to read that if that was the case...BUT....
    • There are repeated scoldings of Sark's refusal to use the Transfer Portal to shore up his OL. A common point to bolster this argument is that Baylor added 2 starters to its OL through the Transfer Portal. When this was suggested in the the below Post last week, the author stated that these 2 Baylor starters were off the board before Sark was hired. (I do not know this was the case from my research, but am reporting what sounded like to me to be a creditable answer.) In the responses to the author's request for the names of what OL in the Transfer Portal should Sark have targeted that would have made a difference and he had a reasonable possibility of landing given the timing of his hiring, there were a few players that were suggested that Sark might have snagged. When these were suggested, the author of the Post asked for input as to the back story about these players. I have not seen anything written about that. In addition, how effective were these players with the team on which they landed?
      • https://texas.forums.rivals.com/thr...-in-the-transfer-portal.543086/#post-16349615
      • If there were OL Transfer Players who would have made a difference, tell us who they are. A Deep Dig would be helpful on this might put to bed this argument one way or the other.
      • I probably should not say this because I make it will get some mods riled up, but up all these OL Transfer Portal scoldings are sounding like the wife during the early stages of Covid who sends her hubby to the store for Charmin Extra Soft and gets pissed off when he comes home and says not only do they not have Charmin Extra Soft , but also they had no TP on the shelf at all in Kroger's, HEB or Walmart.
And finally, just because I did not write a post during the pre-season that this team was not Good does not mean the team Sark inherited was Good or that I even thought pre-season that the team was Good. Thank you for listening and I look forward especially to that OL Transfer Portal Deep Dig.
 
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Did I miss the part that says, “Card needs to start and see if he can grow into the potential he’s shown to have” ?

Start Card, Thompson was playing because everyone thought he would have the “It” factor and that has disappeared. Nobody thought he had anything beyond that because his arm is average and his play reading is below average. He was starting based on his pocket moxy and “ “it” factor. That’s gone, long gone. Start Card and get the young man some reps. 4-4.
 
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ALL THIS related to Texas football.

Fortunately November is here and week one brings us the first look at Chris Beard coaching Texas, and the return of Yellowstone. Texas football is not even in the same stratosphere as those two at this point.
I’m not a hoops guy at all. But I could be had easily. Just want a winner in burnt Orange in a big sport.
 
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Meh. He still doesn't throw worth a flip. It really only became an "issue" when he lost the job and needed an excuse to get a medical so he could save a year of eligibility. If not mistaken, he suffered the "injury" as a HS JUNIOR in 2007 yet only had the surgery done 4 years later. Gilbert was simply not a 5-star level QB. If we're being honest, his college play was that of a 3-star given he was average at his BEST at the level of SMU. It's no crime. It's just reality.
It was an issue in his senior year at Lake Travis. It was always an issue, which is why he needed a second surgery.
 
I’m not a hoops guy at all. But I could be had easily. Just want a winner in burnt Orange in a big sport.

Well, w/o trying to go overboard with enthusiasm, we couldn't have hired a better guy to do that in hoops. As you've probably heard me repeat it several times since the change was made, Beard literally is the biggest and ballsiest hire ever made by the Athletic Department.
 
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No I do not have a post that says they were going to be bad this year. I did not think they should have been ranked pre-season, but the UT media machine and the need in the national sports community to have UT part of the discussion gets them higher ranked than they should. It is 'rat poison'. (The same can be said for recruiting rankings, once UT becomes interested in a kid his rankings often increase, or at least it seems that way, but that is another story.)

I tend to be a wait-and-see-what-happens guy after watching the team and reading the analytical reports and then my opinions start to come together.

Along these lines, I read on here pre-season from you and others on OB (most acutely and accurately by the way) how imperative it was that the QB situation was unsettled and how it would drive how good the team could be. Unfortunately that was the thrust of your column today that it still is in a flux after half a season. If that is the case, and then how could it be a Good Team (as measured by the 2021 season) that Sark inherited? If you need a decent consistent QB to be Good and you do not have one, albeit you are not Good.

On a similar basis, I read preseason in OB by others and you (again acutely and accurately) the overwhelming need to find an Edge Rusher. And as expressed again today, that still has not happened. Without a decent Edge Rusher, how Good can the roster be that Sark inherited?

In addition, I read preseason in OB by others and you (and again acutely and accurately) that the OL was suspect and the need to fill Cosmi's cleats at LT, especially since the QB situation was shaky. And again that player was not on the roster, so how could the inherited team be Good without a reasonable replacement on the roster?

Here are some questions?
  • Without Ehlinger, Ossai and Cosmi would the 2020 be 7-3 or 5-5? If they would have been 7-3 Sark would have inherited a Good Team.
  • How should these 3 glaring holes in the UT Good Team that Sark inherited be filled? The Transfer Portal?
    • There is rarely any mention that the QB and Edge Rusher hole could be filled in this manner...and I am happy to read that if that was the case...BUT....
    • There are repeated scoldings of Sark's refusal to use the Transfer Portal to shore up his OL. A common point to bolster this argument is that Baylor added 2 starters to its OL through the Transfer Portal. When this was suggested in the the below Post last week, the author stated that these 2 Baylor starters were off the board before Sark was hired. (I do not know this was the case from my research, but am reporting what sounded like to me to be a creditable answer.) In the responses to the author's request for the names of what OL in the Transfer Portal should Sark have targeted that would have made a difference and he had a reasonable possibility of landing given the timing of his hiring, there were a few players that were suggested that Sark might have snagged. When these were suggested, the author of the Post asked for input as to the back story about these players. I have not seen anything written about that. In addition, how effective were these players with the team on which they landed?
      • https://texas.forums.rivals.com/thr...-in-the-transfer-portal.543086/#post-16349615
      • If there were OL Transfer Players who would have made a difference, tell us who they are. A Deep Dig would be helpful on this might put to bed this argument one way or the other.
      • I probably should not say this because I make it will get some mods riled up, but up all these OL Transfer Portal scoldings are sounding like the wife during the early stages of Covid who sends her hubby to the store for Charmin Extra Soft and gets pissed off when he comes home and says not only do they not have Charmin Extra Soft , but also they had no TP on the shelf at all in Kroger's, HEB or Walmart.
And finally, just because I did not write a post during the pre-season that this team was not Good does not mean the team Sark inherited was Good or that I even thought pre-season that the team was Good. Thank you for listening and I look forward especially to that OL Transfer Portal Deep Dig.
I thought this was an 8-4 or 9-3 team... and most people on this site felt like there weren't 3 or 4 games that they could legitimately lose.

The goal posts are being moved out of need today,.
 
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It was an issue in his senior year at Lake Travis. It was always an issue, which is why he needed a second surgery.

An issue how? I mean, was it even mentioned as such during any number of OB/Rivals recruiting articles in the fall of 2008 leading up to his 2009 signing. And again, it was such an issue it took FOUR years to "fix it." Let's just get to brass tacks. His post-"injury repair" passer ratings were 105 and 136. B/S. Those numbers are bad?
 
I thought this was an 8-4 or 9-3 team... and most people on this site felt like there weren't 3 or 4 games that they could legitimately lose.

The goal posts are being moved out of need today,.


Being 4-4 at this point is a disaster. Simply no rational spinning of that. I know some will try hard, but there isn't.
 
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An issue how? I mean, was it even mentioned as such during any number of OB/Rivals recruiting articles in the fall of 2008 leading up to his 2009 signing. And again, it was such an issue it took FOUR years to "fix it." Let's just get to brass tacks. His post-"injury repair" passer ratings were 105 and 136. B/S. Those numbers are bad?
It was, but not nearly enough.

I thought he'd be fine.

Too much confirmation bias on my part.
 
The team is 4-4 and has lost three straight games in which they have been outscored 55-10 in the fourth quarters of those games.... and... I'm being dramatic?
Yes!!! It sucks but these r the growing pains of a new coach and a new starting QB going up against 3 top 25 teams. If this keeps happening next year, then sound the alarm. Way 2 early for the alarm right now. It's definitely an issue that Sark and our offense have to work thru the rest of the season. Ketch, we r all frustrated since we have seen so many losses (especially gut wrenching 1s) for the past 12 or so years. This is Sark's and the starting QBs honeymoon year so let them learn on the job this season.
 
My dawgs are starting to wonder about their dad's stability. I am getting 'intervention looks' from them on game day. We need a win.
 
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Tired of talking about QBs when there are vastly larger problems with this team, including potentially coaching.

Don't care who trots out at QB at this point, I'm going to be watching the lines and waiting for the 4th quarter to see if there is improvement.
 
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