Great read. Totally agree with the Jimmy Stewart list. But just don’t agree with taking points off the board at that point in the game (one score lead), 4th and 3. Just think it was impulsive., particularly as we had fewer offensive opportunities at that point.. And I also think that there has to be concerns with the run defense against a team that is unranked, injured and pkaying so many freshmen. Yes, Texas prevented scores on most drives-this wasn’t a good team. Can’t play like that against Georgia, A&M, OU and perhaps Alabama down the road. Maybe we’re just hiding the ball, so to speak, and are not showing more complex defensive schemes until we get to those games. I can only hope so.
Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Arch Manning is...)
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@Ketchum speaking for myself here: I don't care about your shot-calls in regards to incoming recruits. I don't think many do. However, a lot of hyperbole (good or bad) adds weight to your predictions with almost no upside. Nail a VY type prediction for a guy who is a junior in highschool...Does that really help you? Seems like a miss has way more downside than a correct pick has upside.
Don't beat yourself up over Hudson Card. But also know that at least for this reader, present day evaluation is interesting (even if subjective) but future casting is not as interesting.
Don't beat yourself up over Hudson Card. But also know that at least for this reader, present day evaluation is interesting (even if subjective) but future casting is not as interesting.
I recall the debate before he reclassified was "Ewers or Klubnik". Who ya got Ketch? I like the guy we got.
Losing Buffett was a punch to the scrotum pole. I'm sure he and Mike Leach are sharing some pirate stories over a margarita. Sail on sailor.
You are going to feel so silly in less than 24 months. Every time you get a little wise ass I'm going to add to the tab. 😂
Sark trying to put aggression and a killer instinct in this team's DNA. He feels like that is part of it, even if it proves to be a mistake, it's an aggressive mistake.
If they don’t make in-game adjustments like this against good/great teams, then I’ll be pissed.
We purposefully played a light box, and took away underneath throws, against this team because it forced them to beat us with explosives passes we knew they had no shot to execute. I think we could have added some more bodies on third and short plays.
So now we are bitching about PK again after one game. SMH
Let’s say Arch has a big year next year and the team does too. Does he stay or go?
I really really want him to be the full time starter for 2 years. He would absolutely be ready for the league then.
Klubnik has work to do before he gets to Ewers, but the distance isn't so far apart that it can't be done.
You think Sark might be licking his chops after watching Georgia’s 1st quarter in Tuscaloosa?
One thing on the Tide: We saw in the second half what can be done against their secondary. That’s the one potential matchup where I do wonder if Arch brings more to the table with his deep ball prowess.
The family believes Arch needs two full seasons worth of starts.
Totally agreed. But we’ll be staring at Colt’s sophomore year next year ( after all the linemen went to the NFL after his freshman year), if we don’t. Arch is used to running for his life, though, from his high school. Just can’t imagine Sark risking a year of time with Arch with a totally unproven line.
We pulled ahead and they were forced to start throwing the ball.
I hope we have 5 decent guys to block for him next year
No doubt. I guess if we are using baseball metaphors then I'm saying don't even take an at-bat on that topic. Announce it safely from the peanut gallery.
(but still 100% step up to the plate on win/loss predictions, recruit crystal balling, coaching hires)
I love ya @Ketchum, and I have been a fan of yours for decades…but yes, you have to wear the Gilbert and Hudson Card misses (and his “elite arm talent”). I generally trust your talent evaluations, but when it comes to QB’s and OL I typically take your opinion with a large grain of salt. All good, you and I agree on 99 percent of everything else, but your evaluations of both QB’s and OL’s (do I really need to name them?) is typically not your strong suit.
He’s at WORST, top 5. Outside of Quinn and Milroe, who else would be ahead of Arch?
I can dig that.
How does a guy like Garrett Gilbert fit in then? Obviously wasn't good here but was good enough to play in the NFL and be one of the top 60 QBs on the planet (which should mean serviceable in college).
My career of rating elite quarterbacks quarterbacks.
* Active Players
5 stars
1998 - Chip Ambres (Texas A&M)
2002 - Vince Young (Texas)
2002 - Reggie McNeal (Texas A&M)
2004 - Rhett Bomar (Oklahoma)
2006 - Matt Stafford (Georgia)
2007 - Ryan Mallett (Arkansas)
2009 - Garrett Gilbert (Texas)
2009 - Russell Shepard (LSU)
* 2020 - Hudson Card (Texas/Purdue)
* 2021 Quinn Ewers (Ohio State/Texas)
* 2021 Jalen Milroe (Alabama)
* 2022 Cade Klubnik (Clemson)
* 2024 DJ Lagway (Florida)
Ambres never made it to A&M because of pro baseball. McNeal was listed as an athlete by Rivals, but I rated him as a quarterback. If we take Ambres of out of the equation I'm 7 for 7 all-time on the 5-star quarterbacks I've rated being drafted by NFL teams.
High 4
1997 - Drew Brees (Purdue)
2000 - Chance Mock (Texas)
2004 - Stephen McGee (Texas A&M)
2004 - Robbie Reid (Oklahoma State)
2006 - Jevan Snead (Texas)
2009 - Tyrik Rollion
2014 - Jerrod Heard (Texas)
2015 - Kyler Murray (Texas A&M)
2017 - Sam Ehlinger (Texas)
* 2022 - Connor Weigman (A&M)
* 2023 - Jackson Arnold (OU)
Overall, 11 of the 16 (68.8%) highest-rated quarterbacks I've graded over the course of the last two decades worth of recruiting have been drafted by NFL teams.
I know what my track record on this stuff is. My opinions on the matter can be quantified. As recent as the last completed super blue chip quarterback career (Ehlinger), I was the only person to correctly name Ehlinger as the best quarterback in the state and a high four star prospect, a shot that I called before he even had a single scholarship offer.
So, with all due respect, you really don't know what you're talking about.
Some grey territory.
He was the only quarterback out of 33 in the state that were ranked that year that ended up in the NFL.
I agree with the comments of others that Shenandoah belongs on your list and probably in the Top 5. The emotion in the closing scene when the family shows up at their church was an unbelievable tear-jerker. I have always considered Its A Wonderful Life my favorite movie of all time. I have been surprised numerous times in social settings when others say they have never heard of the movie.
