The first players to wash out of the 2022 class that Sark signed weren't the difference makers. It was the three stars.
See David Abiria.
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The first players to wash out of the 2022 class that Sark signed weren't the difference makers. It was the three stars.
See David Abiria.
I feel you, but there's not enough time and patience to successfully do that... unless there's no more 85-man number.
When Sark needs attrition to happen next year to squeeze 30 guys in, who do you think gets the hook first?
a. Mostly buy. That's a hard one to quantify.
b. sell. they all believe in the NFL dream. They are the last ones to know.
c. considerable? sell.
d. sell. they all believe they will make it.
e. sell
f. sell
Not really. I literally went through every position and mentioned all players of note, drafted or not.
You kind of revealed yourself to have not read the sections fully.
We can't pretend that there's more than a couple true exceptions to the rule. There's one Poona Ford.
This ×1000. I was excited to read 10 Thoughts last night and then saw it was the same rhetoric that has already been pounded on the table endlessly so I didn't even bother to read any of it until B/S.
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OB thinks every 3-star has great upside. The overwhelming majority of the time they barely see the field
That was info pulled 6 months before the draft.Hmm.....the evaluation metric switched from "NFL drated" to started for portal kids??? See my prior question.
Colt was still either the No.1 or No.2 quarterback in the state. The value of such things was not known in 2005.
Feels like cave man years.
I was just tired. No offense. I’m a fan of your work and I do realize how much time you put into that. I was being assholish as my sciatica is a beast right now. Keep on trucking.
@Ketchum: "This is going to sound harsh, but I'd make the case that one of the problems Texas football has had in the last 15 years is that too many of those players ended up playing a lot of snaps for the program."
I think this is spot on. The results on the field support it. This is sober column this week and I have wondered about the 3* UT has been recruiting. This column reiterates points made in prior weeks re the portal and how player acquisition strategy is changing.
I think this is spot on. The results on the field support it. This is sober column this week and I have wondered about the 3* UT has been recruiting. This column reiterates points made in prior weeks re the portal and how player acquisition strategy is changing.
I think another look at the wealthiest graduates list above is in order. Note that a large chunk of the top 20 are schools that are in the Ivy League or of similar bent such as MIT. Harvard and Yale make no pretension about ever competing on a football field with the Power 5. Stanford is good at football, but is clearly unwilling to do what it would take to be elite which would be to take recruits and transfers who are nowhere near the academic caliber of the student body at large. Take them out and there is arguably a lot more correlation between wealth and football success. Alumni wealth allows for better facilities and certainly better NIL deals in this new era.
It's way more complicated than stars, for sure. Lot of nuance baked inside the discussion.
That's not even remotely what transpired. This class is on its way to a possible No.1 overall ranking.
This column was about fine-tuning future decision-making to a higher level.
And it was about education and establishing proper expectations.
Byron Vaughns was a national top 50 portal player?
he played well against lesser competition at Utah state after riding the pine at Texas …
.. so you’d put that same guy in the portal success category and also the recruiting 3 star failures category?
Huh.
It’ll be interesting to see how many players in that top 50 list get drafted.
Because a lot of them sound like they started but weren’t plus player enough to get drafted. And that’s the top 50… the top 50 out of high school recruits hit at a high rate, right?
It isn’t any easier to land 10 top 50 transfers than 10 top 50 recruits. Probably harder. And the portal guys out below the top 50 are the guys less promising than Byron Vaughns? … woof.
I get the data on the recruiting side, just not sold on the presumption of higher success on the portal side.
Texas hasn’t had much success via transfers by the standard of getting drafted.
transfers have gone undrafted-
Parker braun
Calvin Anderson
Tre Watson
Thornton
Gabriel Watson
Darion Dunn
Ben Davis
I think what you’re proposing in terms of quality numbers from the portals sounds a lot easier to do than it is.
You’re taking long shots on over half of your offers, be it from one pool or the other, no matter how you slice it
he played well against lesser competition at Utah state after riding the pine at Texas …
.. so you’d put that same guy in the portal success category and also the recruiting 3 star failures category?
Huh.
It’ll be interesting to see how many players in that top 50 list get drafted.
Because a lot of them sound like they started but weren’t plus player enough to get drafted. And that’s the top 50… the top 50 out of high school recruits hit at a high rate, right?
It isn’t any easier to land 10 top 50 transfers than 10 top 50 recruits. Probably harder. And the portal guys out below the top 50 are the guys less promising than Byron Vaughns? … woof.
I get the data on the recruiting side, just not sold on the presumption of higher success on the portal side.
Texas hasn’t had much success via transfers by the standard of getting drafted.
transfers have gone undrafted-
Parker braun
Calvin Anderson
Tre Watson
Thornton
Gabriel Watson
Darion Dunn
Ben Davis
I think what you’re proposing in terms of quality numbers from the portals sounds a lot easier to do than it is.
You’re taking long shots on over half of your offers, be it from one pool or the other, no matter how you slice it
You can't force change and changing behavior.
But, the info is there to learn from.
a. You wouldn't be the first.
b. You've been on the site for 15 years and you just made your 5th post on the 4th of July because of this topic?
I don't think we're having the same conversation.
Personally, I'm having a discussion about the optimal way to build a football program.
What have I ever said that would lead you to believe I don't believe both need to happen at the same time, all the time?
PFF sucks.
Louisiana doesn't have a top 5 college offensive line.
Not really debating you about your larger point, but that link made me want to vomit.
Ketch,
Taking the gist of your current article & adding to it your previous findings that there is virtually no difference in the results of low 4 star vs. high 3 star, are you stating that if the recruit isn't at least consensus rated as a mid 4 star or higher we should just pass & try to snag from the portal? Or is high 3 star the acceptable limit?
Are there enough Portal options that can make a positive impact for us to get the % of them required to fill in the holes this new recruiting system would create, knowing that we won't get them all?
Taking the gist of your current article & adding to it your previous findings that there is virtually no difference in the results of low 4 star vs. high 3 star, are you stating that if the recruit isn't at least consensus rated as a mid 4 star or higher we should just pass & try to snag from the portal? Or is high 3 star the acceptable limit?
Are there enough Portal options that can make a positive impact for us to get the % of them required to fill in the holes this new recruiting system would create, knowing that we won't get them all?
Bingo.
The times are a changing and the info is preparing you for the shift that is coming.
Texas took seven players from the transfer portal and those seven players are more valuable than almost anything Texas will sign in HS recruiting.
More of that in the future is needed. I'm explaining the why part.
appreciate the feedback.
This is the most read column on the site... every week.
I must be doing something right, no?
