Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Heads need to roll in Waco)
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If everybody had the same exact opinion on every subject this site would suck. The differing opinions/viewpoints are part of what makes it so good. Just my opinion don't ban me for it please.
Pretty much sums it up.
I'm just trying to wrap my head around how someone could possibly think he brings value to the site. It's hilarious to think a guy like BOBA, whose sole purpose on this board is to piss off other Longhorn fans, can somehow be misconstrued for bringing value.
I'm sure he's a swell guy in person, which is why people take up for him all the time, but the reality is that he spends 17 of the 18 hours per day he's on here trying to start arguments and instigate other posters.
I do think someone should check on him, he probably hasn't gone this long without being able to post in nearly a decade.
Ketch, I have a daughter that has started her sophomore year in college, I had her enroll in a Krav Maga self defense class, it is an incredible program. She can beat the crap out of me now LOL and she could beat the crap out of any guy now that would try to attack her. I sleep a lot better at night. You should check it out when your daughters are old enough and I highly recommend it to anyone who wants to learn how to protect yourself from any number of attack scenarios, the class is based on Israeli self defense techniques and it really works.
It is quite a work out too, my daughter is stronger than I am now.
It is quite a work out too, my daughter is stronger than I am now.
If the Lady victim at Baylor decides to sue the school in civil court, then those of you who think the story will just go away, are very wrong.....It will blow up in a bigger way. Baylor must be scheming how to keep this from happening.
True. Very true. I was simply giving my unwanted blessing.Why are answering on behalf of the Happy Hour? YOU weren't there.
CS, while stubborn, isn't against changing his stance on an issue or being persuaded by others. He's not easily convinced, but I've seen it on enough occasions to believe he's genuinely interested in a good discussion above all else. I think he may troll people from time to time just to get a rise, but overall the differences between him and a guy like BOBA are night and day.
Nobody in this thread is at risk. Again, if I'm on the wrong side of the decision, I'm open to reconsidering the decision.
Honestly, I figured a parade would be in order from a majority of subscribers.
That's what I'm saying. Totally disappointed. Waited all weekend to read about Baylor Problems.
No way Baylor lets this get to court. They'll settle and they'll pay big.
You realize the general consensus is the opposite, right?
Regardless, thanks for sharing. Next week, there will be the regular 5,000 words on all things burnt orange.
I think that's my point. We have a CS, the "I'm the smartest guy in the room" quota has been met. Do we really need a mentally retarded version when we get so much of the real thing?
Ketch,
I know as a female I am in a gross minority here which is why I rarely post. This board has a tendency to turn on it's own. I want to personally thank you for your thoughts and conviction on this subject. I have found comfort in so many of our members comments regarding their feelings about this difficult subject and I hope that we will continue to talk about this in hopes that we can effect change. Charlie Strong summed it up the other day when he said "I just don't get it". It really is that simple. Some posters on here have different opinions that I obviously disagree with and my response is like Coach Strong's....I JUST DON'T GET IT...DO YOU?. There is absolutely ZERO fallback for anyone in this string of events at Baylor that can answer that question. This has nothing to do with football, but everything to do with life and how we should conduct our selves in society. It is OK that we take a little break from the almighty game to discuss something this important. Thanks again, Regal.
I know as a female I am in a gross minority here which is why I rarely post. This board has a tendency to turn on it's own. I want to personally thank you for your thoughts and conviction on this subject. I have found comfort in so many of our members comments regarding their feelings about this difficult subject and I hope that we will continue to talk about this in hopes that we can effect change. Charlie Strong summed it up the other day when he said "I just don't get it". It really is that simple. Some posters on here have different opinions that I obviously disagree with and my response is like Coach Strong's....I JUST DON'T GET IT...DO YOU?. There is absolutely ZERO fallback for anyone in this string of events at Baylor that can answer that question. This has nothing to do with football, but everything to do with life and how we should conduct our selves in society. It is OK that we take a little break from the almighty game to discuss something this important. Thanks again, Regal.
True. Very true. I was simply giving my unwanted blessing.
All good. We enjoyed having Alex and Dustin. Everyone had a good time.
Be very careful of the masses. You look up and next thing you know 6 million people have been extinguished while the masses sit idly by. Or a girl in Waco Texas gets raped while several maybe even dozens of Adults do almost nothing and what they did do was extremely horrible.
Because we're expecting to read about sports not a Dr. Phil type discussion. But Idk I guess I'm just not as emotionally connected as you.
Best post that I have read all day. The hypocrisy of the some of the contradictory positions was choking me. Thanks for adding it to the discussion. I would like to add the adulation that was given to the movie "Straight out of Compton" and the lyrics of N.W.A. is also sympthathic of the dicotomy in a lot of posters's view on the Baylor rape and its aftermath. The lyrics and life style treat women brutally as a convenient place for them to relieve themselves, yet they are to be admired and respected for their genius. Some of the biggest supporters of those lyrics are now piling on Baylor. All of those contribute to the way that some men view and treat women. It shouldn't be a surprise that some men believe that they are entitled to do what they want and it is cool. Bitches. Ho's. It isn't cool if one is a member of your family.
So it's your take that BOBA was not civil and or informed in any of his discourse? I'm fine with you not liking his discourse, but I'm not sure how you make the claim he was anything but civil and only uninformed when he intended to be. There's a certain point, when the hyenas come out in force, that folks like BOBA, myself, etc stop caring about trying to actual converse with folks and it's just a matter of seeing the hyenas dance. In my opinion, it was pretty obvious when BOBA was just trying to be funny, but perhaps it's because I know him a little bit.
As for my sticking my neck out for him, I'm sticking it out there for @jshorn too. I just don't think that folks that disagree with things should be banned just for disagreeing. I also don't think the banning should be sugarcoated to be anything other than what it is.....Banning over disagreements. Dozens of folks in this thread actually attacked @jshorn, yet, I'm assuming he's the only one with the ban. If he was banned....I'm not positive on that one.
You had the option of scrolling down past the Baylor stuff. Instead you chose to read it. Then you chose to post a disparaging comment about those who were moved by it. Who looks more like an ass in this scenario?
It's clear you have feelings for the guy.... just let him know, bruh.
You might want to re-think that one. For one he started being a jerk in this thread first away. Its not about just disagreeing with someone...He's often a jerk in threads and trolls which is his reputation here.
Because JSHorn chose to personally attack many. I vehemently disagree with BOBA and think he offered nothing of substance but T least he did not attack others. JSHorn did and does so often.
Understood- but like I said, there's not exactly a lack of coverage on this board, generally speaking.
And I would also point out that while not 'Texas football-specific' this story, in additional to the human aspect and the appearance of a cover-up, has significant implications for Texas and the conference as a whole. Can Baylor remain near the top of the Big 12 in light of this scandal? How many current Baylor commits are looking at this and re-thinking their commitment? How many parents are appreciating Charlie's core values more than ever?
@Ketchum @Suchomel @Anwar Richardson @DustinMcComas @Alex Dunlap - are you guys allowed/planning to contact Kam Martin and other Baylor commits/leans that are also Texas targets and ask them how they feel about this? I am surprised, but I don't think anyone has asked that yet here? That would be Texas specific football news worthy of an OB of taste and distinction like @houstonhorn87.
As for those who have said Ketch's emotional, personal tone at the beginning of this article represents some sort of departure from journalistic objectivity, I don't care. It's honest because he's basically admitting up front that his child/personal relationships inform his views somewhat on the scandal, and vice versa- the scandal makes him think about how he can make sure the same thing doesn't happen one day to his child? Further, that type of emotional appeal, since this is now public and hopefully people beyond OB are reading it, adds a dimension that, again, might resonate more with other parents. Like parents of recruits.
Obviously this is a human tragedy and a major university scandal. That said- I would also like to see some reporting on how recruits, high school coaches, and parents feel about what's going on in Waco. It would also be interesting to know whether the Baylor coaching staff has reached out to recruitsand parents, and what they are telling them about this.
As soon as possible please.
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Btw- I think I had BOBA and jshorn on ignore. Anyone care to give me the Cliff's notes on what they said that got them banned? Just curious.
Not banned as far as I know. And, I didn't start off being a jerk, unless saying I don't understand someone crying over events not related to them is being a jerk. @Ketchum immediately replied to me saying it sounds like that's (my) problem, which was fine. I replied that I thought it was his problem, and then the floodgates opened, which was no surprise.
Thanks @texasguy2310 for fighting the fight. No worries, though. I don't take this stuff quite as seriously as so many do.
I don't follow @jshorn's activity enough to really know one way or the other. I just know that he wasn't the one in this thread that started anything other than a differing viewpoint.
Why? You had them on ignore.....A feature that I really don't understand at all.
Yeah, my stance is 100% that BOBA was not civil nor informed in the vast majority of his discourse that I saw. Obviously I cannot say any, since there's plenty I likely never saw considering how much he posts, but I would describe his posts as a nuisance more than anything. Typically uninformed or willfully ignorant of certain details or nuance to particular matters and then firmly entrenched in that position with no indication that he desired to have a healthy debate, but rather to do anything and everything to support whatever his stance was. That's not my definition of civil discourse, it's just unnecessary noise. I stopped paying attention to anything he wrote in a thread or anyone foolish enough to respond to him a long time ago, so whether he's banned or not doesn't really bother me.
I'm sure knowing him outside of the board shades your opinion on this and I'm willing to bet he's probably a cool dude to grab a drink with or shoot the shit in a different venue/forum. Even so, I viewed him more as a pest on the board that causes flare-ups from time to time. Posters such as yourself aren't similar to BOBA in any form or degree from my viewpoint and there's a difference in having contrarian views and simply being a contrarian. One is a legitimate and necessary part of healthy discourse and the other is one of the pitfalls that need to be avoided during said discourse. I'll even stick up for @jshorn as well. I think he can be a jackass a lot of times and may lack sound judgment on what is/isn't a solid time and place to air certain thoughts or opinions, but I don't think that's a banworthy set of characteristics. I'm sure I've come off like a jackass plenty of times over the course of the 13 or 14 years I've been a member here. I've enjoyed several discussions I've had with @jshorn, yet had others with him where I thought he could use a good punch in the mouth. To me, that's a solid sign that the individual is a good overall poster. I think you and I had a good time lampooning season 2 of TD once we saw the railings coming off by the 4th or 5th episode which wasn't a real popular opinion on the TD threads, but we both laid out numerous reasons why we thought the thing was turning into a shit sandwich. It wasn't just to be difficult.
Maybe BOBA has engaged in discussions in the past where he was actually serious about whatever was being discussed, but I never saw it and his attempts at humor were always juvenile and lacked any subtlety or, well, humor. I completely understand sticking up for him if he's your buddy as I would do the same, but I always viewed him as having all of the bad things a guy like echeese has without any of the good.
Sometimes things are bigger and more important than football. That's the beauty of this site. And having your baby girl rest/sleep on you as you are thinking about these 2 instances would make alot of fathers would tremble and shed a tear..myself included.
Ketch - this may be one your lifetime shining moments...dont stop.
Ketch - this may be one your lifetime shining moments...dont stop.
Trust me, if no one wants to, I am not going to lose any sleep over it. Obviously, I had them on ignore for a reason. I was just curious to know what they said that was "ban-worthy," since it doesn't happen very often.
Still, odd that you felt the need to chime in just to tell me you wouldn't.
Anyone else?
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You stated, not only that you do not understand, but that Ketch's reaction was not "normal" and that he needs "therapy". Don't try to be a martyr when you get attacked when you clearly started this with a bull$hit statement.
