Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Heads need to roll in Waco)

[utexashorns88]

Trust me, if no one wants to, I am not going to lose any sleep over it. Obviously, I had them on ignore for a reason. I was just curious to know what was "ban-worthy," since it doesn't happen very often.

Still, odd that you felt the need to chime in just to tell me you wouldn't.

Anyone else?

I think ignoring posters is weird. I don't care if you do it, though.

 

[orangeuglad]

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[Take Dead Aim]

I don't follow @jshorn's activity enough to really know one way or the other. I just know that he wasn't the one in this thread that started anything other than a differing viewpoint.

Wow.

 

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An annual OB "airing of grievances" followed by "feats of strength" would be a fantastic idea. I'll co-sponsor.

 

[echeese]

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, but I always viewed him as having all of the bad things a guy like echeese has without any of the good.

Well I guess I should say it's nice to know you think I have good qualities . . . .though I have to confess . .. . now that we can tag. . . . calling someone out without tagging them (clearly you know how) is a bit humorous. . . . . .

The irony that several of our negative engagements were the direct result of you acting just as you deride BOBA. Before you sling rocks in a glass house. . . ..remember we ALL have the capacity to act like the south end of a north bound mule.

Me???? Perish the thought....

It's an internet board, some of you take this caca WAY too seriously. . .and take yourselves way to seriously.

I'd have been bummed if @jshorn had been banned. . . I"m biased about BOBA so I cannot truly be objective, I know him and like him but also didn't read him much (people really need an ignore feature just to read over posters?)


Though did not see the thread in question. . .he could get over the top for sure.


I hope if he was banned it was for something (or a pattern) of what he was doing and not to appease the pitchfork crowd.


He's gone to join NTG, Fear, Don Drysdale and other color ful characters in OB cyber purgatory. . .

@texasguy2310 good on you for standing up for your beliefs. . ..

 

[jshorn]

You stated, not only that you do not understand, but that Ketch's reaction was not "normal" and that he needs "therapy". Don't try to be a martyr when you get attacked when you clearly started this with a bull$hit statement.

Not trying to be a martyr. Simply stating the facts. I wasn't the one who said it was "a you problem."

 

[riceowl]

Ketch that was a very thoughtful and necessary article regarding Baylor. Please go national with it!

 

[echeese]

Because JSHorn chose to personally attack many. I vehemently disagree with BOBA and think he offered nothing of substance but T least he did not attack others. JSHorn did and does so often.

Have to say I have never seen that.


Certainly have seen him offer a differing opinion. . . perhaps he painted with a broad brush stroke toward a group. . . .but will pay more attention. . .. . . again, doesn't mean it didn't happen, just that I didn't notice it.. .

 

[utexashorns88]

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Well I guess I should say it's nice to know you think I have good qualities . . . .though I have to confess . .. . now that we can tag. . . . calling someone out without tagging them (clearly you know how) is a bit humorous. . . . . .

The irony that several of our negative engagements were the direct result of you acting just as you deride BOBA. Before you sling rocks in a glass house. . . ..remember we ALL have the capacity to act like the south end of a north bound mule.

Me???? Perish the thought....

It's an internet board, some of you take this caca WAY too seriously. . .and take yourselves way to seriously.

I'd have been bummed if @jshorn had been banned. . . I"m biased about BOBA so I cannot truly be objective, I know him and like him but also didn't read him much (people really need an ignore feature just to read over posters?)


Though did not see the thread in question. . .he could get over the top for sure.


I hope if he was banned it was for something (or a pattern) of what he was doing and not to appease the pitchfork crowd.


He's gone to join NTG, Fear, Don Drysdale and other color ful characters in OB cyber purgatory. . .

@texasguy2310 good on you for standing up for your beliefs. . ..

Your use of ellipses is my favorite quality, by far. I wasn't trying to call you out, but rather trying to summarize a poster in a way a lot of people may understand. I tagged jshorn because he had been actively engaged in the thread. I'll be sure to tag you in the future to avoid further conspiring to slander your good name.

 

[Take Dead Aim]

Not trying to be a martyr. Simply stating the facts. I wasn't the one who said it was "a you problem."

It is a fact that Ketch is not normal and needs therapy?

 

[texaspaulo]

A column, if it is written well, can be both an excellent place for info and editorial comments.

Agree and I thought you did an excellent job of both this week.

 

[Tx Tailgator]

No, sounds like a you problem. Therapy should help, though.

Time to take out the trash.

 

[texasguy2310]

Yeah, my stance is 100% that BOBA was not civil nor informed in the vast majority of his discourse that I saw. Obviously I cannot say any, since there's plenty I likely never saw considering how much he posts, but I would describe his posts as a nuisance more than anything. Typically uninformed or willfully ignorant of certain details or nuance to particular matters and then firmly entrenched in that position with no indication that he desired to have a healthy debate, but rather to do anything and everything to support whatever his stance was. That's not my definition of civil discourse, it's just unnecessary noise. I stopped paying attention to anything he wrote in a thread or anyone foolish enough to respond to him a long time ago, so whether he's banned or not doesn't really bother me.

I'm sure knowing him outside of the board shades your opinion on this and I'm willing to bet he's probably a cool dude to grab a drink with or shoot the shit in a different venue/forum. Even so, I viewed him more as a pest on the board that causes flare-ups from time to time. Posters such as yourself aren't similar to BOBA in any form or degree from my viewpoint and there's a difference in having contrarian views and simply being a contrarian. One is a legitimate and necessary part of healthy discourse and the other is one of the pitfalls that need to be avoided during said discourse. I'll even stick up for @jshorn as well. I think he can be a jackass a lot of times and may lack sound judgment on what is/isn't a solid time and place to air certain thoughts or opinions, but I don't think that's a banworthy set of characteristics. I'm sure I've come off like a jackass plenty of times over the course of the 13 or 14 years I've been a member here. I've enjoyed several discussions I've had with @jshorn, yet had others with him where I thought he could use a good punch in the mouth. To me, that's a solid sign that the individual is a good overall poster. I think you and I had a good time lampooning season 2 of TD once we saw the railings coming off by the 4th or 5th episode which wasn't a real popular opinion on the TD threads, but we both laid out numerous reasons why we thought the thing was turning into a shit sandwich. It wasn't just to be difficult.

Maybe BOBA has engaged in discussions in the past where he was actually serious about whatever was being discussed, but I never saw it and his attempts at humor were always juvenile and lacked any subtlety or, well, humor. I completely understand sticking up for him if he's your buddy as I would do the same, but I always viewed him as having all of the bad things a guy like echeese has without any of the good.

Fair enough.

 

[texasguy2310]

Wow.

Wow, what?

 

[Prasifka]

I think ignoring posters is weird. I don't care if you do it, though.

It's a handful of people. And it might only be two or three- since a couple of them have been banned. I've been on this board for more than ten years and I had zero people on ignore for most of that time.

The we hired Charlie Strong. So we're talking about a couple of guys who post tens of thousands of times and bitch and/or seek to stir the proverbial shit-storm about 99 percent of the time. It gets old when someone dominates a thread arguing with everyone, this constant back-and-forth, and I have to sift through 7 or 8 pages of a thread for a few nuggets from @utx, or @El Mahico, or @ericg320, and any other of the funny or constructive posters who have something to add to this board.

Also, just before the software change, there were a few more, because I could put someone on ignore (as a reminder to myself that this is one of the "characters" on this board when someone says inflammatory shit), and if I was curious what they said that got everyone so riled up, I could still see their quotation in the reply.

As Stephen King wrote, "Hell is repetition." Reading the same bile over and over just sucks, IMO.

I guess I'm "weird" that way.

 

[hook_em27]

Ketch - I applaud your efforts to get this story out into the mainstream media. As a father of two girls, I completely understand the emotion you felt regarding your child's safety. It enters my mind almost daily as I look into the future of my 5 and 8 year old. The stories you hear about the sexual victimization of young women around the country is frightening. I remind myself that I'm must provide them with the tools to become confident, independent, self-sufficient women. As a dad, that's the best I can do short of following them around with a semi-automatic.

Great piece - it's a story that needs to be shared if nothing else to prevent something similar in the future. I hope Briles loses his job over this fiasco. He had the information necessary to avoid brining him into the program, and he sure as hell had enough information to suspend and subsequently kick him off the team. As I've said before, I know a certain coach in Austin - although he wouldn't have targeted the player in the first place - would have had no problem showing him the door.

 

[anon_f5t64h0z1z07t]

I think that's my point. We have a CS, the "I'm the smartest guy in the room" quota has been met. Do we really need a mentally retarded version when we get so much of the real thing?

BOBA getting banned will not effect me one bit. The IGNORE function can be a useful tool.

 

[Hook 'em Danno]

I thought Ketch gave an incredible analysis.

It's sad people would rather focus on him crying, question his motives, criticize him for jumping to conclusions, but avoid the main topic - a Baylor student was raped and the people who were supposed to help her failed miserably. That's my only focus. Sure, Ketch could have written about Swoopes again. But so many people ignored this young lady, it's about damn time somebody speaks up for her now.

Thanks for tackling an uncomfortable subject for many people. It needed to happen.

Spot on.

 

[Tx Tailgator]

I've said it. I just couldn't take any more. It wasn't any one comment in that thread, other than his comments of faux outrage that I found insulting, but more the totality of his resume.

I'm willing to talk back from the ledge, but I had imply had enough.

Nope, stick to your guns.

 

[Tx Tailgator]

Nobody in this thread is at risk. Again, if I'm on the wrong side of the decision, I'm open to reconsidering the decision.

Honestly, I figured a parade would be in order from a majority of subscribers.

I think you figured correctly

 

[RTR]

They have def

First off, I do remember the Lizzy story. I even remember the story of Prince when he got into the NFL. ND explicitly covered that story up no question, and without a doubt made it difficult on that girl. The parallels to the Baylor story are there but with one different thing, and it's a big different thing. When Briles left Stephenville to join Leach's staff at Tech he was the "High School Coach" hire for sure. But what was also know about Briles was championship winning machine. Stephenville won several state championships in a area that Brownwood dominated. From there to Tech, to Houston he really continued his winning ways and created a flat out winning attitude about him, When he was hired at Baylor they brought him in for one reason, and that was start winning. I know this first hand because I used to eat lunch with a Reagent at the time before he became a Federal Judge and stepped down. All I heard from his was who Briles was, and what he would do. I often asked so win at all cost huh? No, I didn't think much of it, because it's Baylor and we are Texas when would they ever surpass us? Right, well Obviously I was wrong and you know the history of his record at Baylor. I spoke with my friend over the weekend and let me tell you that conversation was interesting. Baylor basically doesn't know what to do. Briles is the reason in their opinion they have gotten to where they are, and he is right. Baylor winning Big 12 Championships and that parlaying into other sports doing well has created a "Baylor Brand". A Heisman Trophy QB and tons of good exposure. The most compelling words he told was this, "What we forgot was that we hired a former Texas High School Football Coach". What he meant was winning is everything, everything else is white noise.

In the end, there will be an investigation, but by who is the question. I feel for this girl, and do hope she can find some peace, however I doubt it. As for Baylor, well, to be continued.

They have definitely created a Baylor Brand but it's not about championships or Heisman QB's..

 

[Ketchum]

Ketch,
I know as a female I am in a gross minority here which is why I rarely post. This board has a tendency to turn on it's own. I want to personally thank you for your thoughts and conviction on this subject. I have found comfort in so many of our members comments regarding their feelings about this difficult subject and I hope that we will continue to talk about this in hopes that we can effect change. Charlie Strong summed it up the other day when he said "I just don't get it". It really is that simple. Some posters on here have different opinions that I obviously disagree with and my response is like Coach Strong's....I JUST DON'T GET IT...DO YOU?. There is absolutely ZERO fallback for anyone in this string of events at Baylor that can answer that question. This has nothing to do with football, but everything to do with life and how we should conduct our selves in society. It is OK that we take a little break from the almighty game to discuss something this important. Thanks again, Regal.

No, thank you.

 

[Ketchum]

Because JSHorn chose to personally attack many. I vehemently disagree with BOBA and think he offered nothing of substance but T least he did not attack others. JSHorn did and does so often.

That's completely fair.

 

[Prasifka]

BOBA getting banned will not effect me one bit. The IGNORE function can be a useful tool.

You use that, too? Weird.

 

[jshorn]

Because JSHorn chose to personally attack many. I vehemently disagree with BOBA and think he offered nothing of substance but T least he did not attack others. JSHorn did and does so often.

I'm having a really hard time understanding where you stand on this issue. I think one more post should do it.

 

[dtrain79]

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Disagree that she is the beginning and end of the story. Totally, emphatically disagree.

That said, my guess is this will be roughly the line of reasoning baylor will push in an effort to make her the scape goat, in the hopes that all others may be saved.

I don't mean this to be disrespectful, but lots of programs have give questionable characters second chances. While his subsequent criminal acts make Baylor look bad, there's nothing exceptional about this in college sports. Plenty of other kids/programs have generated the same dynamic.

The question is the conduct after the incident. Did football have say in this Title IX investigation? What was Briles' involvement in that? Why did the dean find the player not responsible while the jury found him guilty? This is where Baylor could go down.

The back end stuff (player arrested and convicted) went completely acceptably. The front end stuff may be a big egg cracked on Baylor's face, but it's not uncommon and isn't likely to see a popular, extremely successful coach get fired. The only X factor here is who was involved in the investigation and why was there an erroneous conclusion. If the end answer is that the dean was taking a pro-football stance, she's going to get bounced and football isn't going to be touched. If something else is in play, that's how this becomes Briles' Waterloo.

 

[dtrain79]

Societally, we have a problem with respecting & protecting women. The situation at Baylor is just an extreme example of a culture that frequently dehumanizes women. It's amazing to watch the comments roll in when a beautiful woman, who is not connected to anyone on OB, is posted on the board. It's a barrage of comments about PIIHB, f'ing her raw, drinking her bathwater, motorboat gifs, phallic eruption gifs, etc. Yet, when someone posts something about his wife or daughter (who happens to be a beautiful), you see the restrained comments: "What a beautiful young lady", "you must be proud", "you out kicked your coverage", etc.

Why do we assign value & respect to the women in our own lives (and expect others to as well), but aren't willing to offer that same value & respect to the women in others' lives, whom we have no connection to? Why do we, as a society, demand that men respect women physically, but not verbally? If women are worthy of respect, value, and protection, then they're worthy it in both words & actions.........and at all times, not just when it comes to physical harm. Just my $.02.

Most likely because we are human. People value those close to them, and put less value on those that aren't. It's called "tribalism" or "family" or whatever you want to call it.

As for the other stuff, I really don't like to get into the victimization stuff. We've become a society of victims in a society in which there are actually far less victims than there were 20, 50, 100, and 500 years ago (one of the great things to do is to look at the murder rate over centuries, humans respect each other incredibly more now than they have the huge majority of human history). People should be decent to one another (I'm not a big fan of the crude comment outside of finding a well-timed "PIIHB" borderline hilarious), but you are arguing against humanity when you try and compare those to whom you have a personal connection with those who don't.

 

[benflr]

I don't follow @jshorn's activity enough to really know one way or the other. I just know that he wasn't the one in this thread that started anything other than a differing viewpoint.

I don't agree as he was the one suggesting that people who had an emotional response to the story "needed therapy". I call that a personal attack.

 

[dtrain79]

I don't agree as he was the one suggesting that people who had an emotional response to the story "needed therapy". I call that a personal attack.

Seems like no one should be casting aspersions about posters fighting about who needs therapy. I saw multiple references to it from both sides. I think it was also meant to poke fun at the other side's position.

 

[McGuapo]

Again, he's civil in his discourse and never goes out of his way to personally attack anyone.

Well, to be fair, he recently called me a dumbass for no good reason, but then I called him a dickhole in return (because I ain't no bitch) and we Internet bro'd it out. We each gave a like and moved on. My friends can call me whatever they want, but typically, if I don't know you, you better be willing to go down for it. I don't know him, but interpreting his OB persona, I gave him the benefit of the doubt that he was messing around and knew I would take it as good natured ribbing. I would never write in or make a complaint about something like that because I can handle my business, but I could see how others might not handle being called a dumbass with as much grace.

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[jgotc]

Okay, personal preference for reading UT sports stories aside, I agree that this story may be well-intentioned, but it is not supported by known, hard, facts. At this point of he-said versus he-said with a sprinkling of truths and partial truths and loads of innuendo, to take sides with such conviction and self-assured righteousness is folly in the least and libelous in the worst. I too have daughters, one just today beginning her freshman year at OU (o u have no idea how I've suffered). I am very much a supporter of avid protection of all students from predators of any type. However, the vindictive tone (no, not undertone) of this writing suggests either a personal issue with Briles or one with "Christian schools" or perhaps, both. Really? The only two relevant offenders are Notre Dame and Baylor? This type of "football first" mentality only exists at private/christian schools and doesn't exist at the other 95% of universities...the public ones? Campus assault and rape in particular is a serious matter that is not new and needs further illumination. Serious, sincere, efforts at exposure are welcome. Half-hearted, half-researched, half-sappy musings are distractions from the real journalism needed to advance the matter professionally.

By the way, where was your righteous indignation and 3,200 word treatise when Bob Stoops let Joe Mixon back on campus?

Stick to sports, where opinion is customary. Or at least stick to proven facts when criticizing people's actions.

 

[Prasifka]

Love the multi-quote feature.

(BUY or SELL): Total number of touchdown passes thrown by Longhorn quarterbacks will be greater than 25 this season.

(Sell) Let’s see the quarterbacks walk before we ask them to run.

Don't you mean, 'see them run before we ask them to pass?"

Ken Starr, who savaged President Clinton over an illicit, but consensual, sexual affair, will take no action against Briles.

No fan of Ken Starr, but this is a half-truth at best. Clinton was being sued for sexual harassment by Paula Jones and the plaintiff's attorneys were trying to establish a pattern of behavior and were trying to get evidence of the alleged Lewinsky affair into evidence to do just that. Clinton got Lewinsky to sign a sworn affidavit maintaining there was no sexual relationship between the two.

Then, of his own testimony, "Mr. Clinton (later) acknowledged that some answers he gave about Ms. Lewinsky during a 1998 deposition were false and that he "knowingly gave misleading and evasive answers." However, he maintained that he did not intend to lie. The allegations were some of the same made against Mr. Clinton in articles of impeachment that were passed by the House but rejected by the Senate." (http://www.nysun.com/national/clinton-eligible-once-again-to-practice-law/25965/) The Arkansas bar took his law license for five years. He was eligible to re-apply for it in 2006, but to-date I still don't think he has. Running your own foundation and giving speeches is way too lucrative for him to care.

Bill was trying to deny a US citizen her Constitutional right to a fair trial by covering up relevant evidence. Clinton got into hot water for the cover-up, same as Baylor.

By the way, Bill still has a mistress to this day. She is a blonde with big tits. The Secret Service has given her the code name, Energizer. Apparently, they like her a LOT more than Hillary.

In this thread, I've seen people fall all over themselves trying to congratulate @Ketchum on his courage in tackling this issue. I suppose this issue wasn't being tackled by anyone else.....Like the criminal justice system or anyone like that.

Ketch is drawing attention to the cover-up, not the crime itself.

This is a fairly easy distinction to make. The criminal justice system's job is done- for now. Like Watergate or Benghazi (bi-partisan examples, see?)or other scandals, the 'how did this happen?, who else is to blame?, who knew?, who provided cover? portion of this begins in earnest. That is, IF enough people call for an NCAA investigation and do things to draw attention to how sleazy this seems to be. That's what Ketch is doing. Pretty sure the criminal justice system is mum on that facet.

The question is the conduct after the incident.

No. The question begins with what Briles knew at the time he agreed to let the kid transfer to Baylor. Said this before- Peterson had no logical incentive to lie/cover for a kid he was kicking off the team for misconduct. I mentioned this phase is about the cover-up. That means throughout the process- beginning to end. That even means that if Briles is telling the truth and Peterson is lying (though I doubt it), then Peterson is negligent. Wherever and whenever anyone failed to do their due diligence, or worse, covered up- that is the question.

 

[Iceman]

Most likely because we are human. People value those close to them, and put less value on those that aren't. It's called "tribalism" or "family" or whatever you want to call it.

As for the other stuff, I really don't like to get into the victimization stuff. We've become a society of victims in a society in which there are actually far less victims than there were 20, 50, 100, and 500 years ago (one of the great things to do is to look at the murder rate over centuries, humans respect each other incredibly more now than they have the huge majority of human history). People should be decent to one another (I'm not a big fan of the crude comment outside of finding a well-timed "PIIHB" borderline hilarious), but you are arguing against humanity when you try and compare those to whom you have a personal connection with those who don't.

So, "humanity" is predisposed to treating women like pieces of meat b/c of "tribalism", and as long as we're just "decent" to each other, then all's good?

 

[Achilleshorn]

Okay, personal preference for reading UT sports stories aside, I agree that this story may be well-intentioned, but it is not supported by known, hard, facts. At this point of he-said versus he-said with a sprinkling of truths and partial truths and loads of innuendo, to take sides with such conviction and self-assured righteousness is folly in the least and libelous in the worst. I too have daughters, one just today beginning her freshman year at OU (o u have no idea how I've suffered). I am very much a supporter of avid protection of all students from predators of any type. However, the vindictive tone (no, not undertone) of this writing suggests either a personal issue with Briles or one with "Christian schools" or perhaps, both. Really? The only two relevant offenders are Notre Dame and Baylor? This type of "football first" mentality only exists at private/christian schools and doesn't exist at the other 95% of universities...the public ones? Campus assault and rape in particular is a serious matter that is not new and needs further illumination. Serious, sincere, efforts at exposure are welcome. Half-hearted, half-researched, half-sappy musings are distractions from the real journalism needed to advance the matter professionally.

By the way, where was your righteous indignation and 3,200 word treatise when Bob Stoops let Joe Mixon back on campus?

Stick to sports, where opinion is customary. Or at least stick to proven facts when criticizing people's actions.

There are proven facts here. Have you paid any attention to anything?

 

[texasguy2310]

I don't agree as he was the one suggesting that people who had an emotional response to the story "needed therapy". I call that a personal attack.

No. He didn't. He questioned the sincerity of the weeping in the piece. Did you weep? Do you really believe there was weeping? If so, do you believe that to be a normal response to a story with which you have absolutely no connection and one in which justice was ultimately served? If your friend, with no direct connection to this story, standing next to you started weeping when discussing this story, would you find that mundane? Does it not seem a bit like unnecessary drama in a strange crusade? Does this whole thing not seem a little.... Off?

I am not a man afraid to cry. I cried when my children were born. I cried when I said my wedding vows. I have cried when I've been overwhelmed by the love I feel for my family. So on and so forth.

@jshorn started in this thread with that. There's nothing wrong with that. At that point, the hyenas came calling and it went where it went.