BOBA is in the running with jshorn......both idiots.
Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Heads need to roll in Waco)
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BOBA is in the running with jshorn......both idiots.
I had no idea of that pattern of recruiting. Amazing. With a pipeline like this, why bother to recruit reforms schools like Tom Osborne did.
Thanks for this insight. That gets it down to the bare metal.
IMO, your best "10 Thoughts" column since I joined this site.
And I agree 100% about the Cal game.
And I agree 100% about the Cal game.
The people who are defending Baylor's actions are crazy! All you have to do is read what Charlie Strong said about what he did with Michael Dyer at Louisville.
I understand winning games is important to these people and I understand defending your university and your head coach. I understand giving your alma mater every benefit of the doubt, but to bury your head in the sand is ridiculous and to defend the indefensible!!!??. All of the apologists are claiming facts -- when they aren't facts - at best they are issues in dispute! AND how many of them say anything about Jane Doe? None of them do because they don't give a sh!t. It's sad and outrageous.
STOP DEFENDING THE INDEFENSIBLE!!!
I understand winning games is important to these people and I understand defending your university and your head coach. I understand giving your alma mater every benefit of the doubt, but to bury your head in the sand is ridiculous and to defend the indefensible!!!??. All of the apologists are claiming facts -- when they aren't facts - at best they are issues in dispute! AND how many of them say anything about Jane Doe? None of them do because they don't give a sh!t. It's sad and outrageous.
STOP DEFENDING THE INDEFENSIBLE!!!
Unfortunately we have needed every UT QB to be ahead of where they were at for the past 5 years. It would be nice to drop an inexperienced QB into an offense that at least had weapons or a OL and we have had neither.
This protection of star athletes begins far earlier than college. I'm sure some of you remember the Ohio case linked here. OP is correct that it is a societal, win at all cost mindset and it needs to stop.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/18/us/teenagers-found-guilty-in-rape-in-steubenville-ohio.html?_r=0
Moral outrage is easy journalism and there is certifiably lot of blame to go around, but it should be primarily centered on the perpetrator and those who gave the kid a light sentence.
thanks Ketch...one of your bestest. I'm so fighting mad right now after reading all that has gone on behind the scenes at Baylor...it's not a Texas vs. Baylor Bear thing...I was accused recently of just being anti-Baylor bc they've beaten us up recently...this is a f<cking life we're talking about...a precious child of someone and a beloved person who was victimized and then tossed aside not only by the rapist but by the university which should've been protecting her.
I too have a young daughter and I can't imagine what I'd do if that were my daughter. I hope I never get in that situation because I think I would do all I could and all that is in my power--and then beyond--to make life miserable not only for that rapist but for those who didn't give a shit about my daughter.
how can I get any work done today after reading that! So angry and pissed!
I too have a young daughter and I can't imagine what I'd do if that were my daughter. I hope I never get in that situation because I think I would do all I could and all that is in my power--and then beyond--to make life miserable not only for that rapist but for those who didn't give a shit about my daughter.
how can I get any work done today after reading that! So angry and pissed!
As someone who (A) also grew up in Waco (B) recently graduated from UT and (C) attends law school at BU this story hits home on so many levels. Job well done.
Baylor cares so much about maintaining their success and maximizing their huge investment in football that the university and community (including the media) will do almost anything to protect Briles. It is embarrassing, pathetic, and sends a dangerous message that acts of violence/sexual abuse are tolerated as long as you produce on the football field. Thankfully Coach Strong is different. I'd much rather worry about the OL and QB than the soul of the program and the man who leads it.
Baylor cares so much about maintaining their success and maximizing their huge investment in football that the university and community (including the media) will do almost anything to protect Briles. It is embarrassing, pathetic, and sends a dangerous message that acts of violence/sexual abuse are tolerated as long as you produce on the football field. Thankfully Coach Strong is different. I'd much rather worry about the OL and QB than the soul of the program and the man who leads it.
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i said that the emotional buildup in your story is not necessary, and it makes you look impartial.
the facts speak for themselves, and your prose takes away from the real story.
no need for the emotional part ketch. it takes away from the facts and makes it seem like you are impartial
Those of you that have disconnected from your humanity to this extent have have deteriorated to the level of automaton or machine, and truly have nothing to add to this discussion.
Those of you that have disconnected from your humanity to this extent have have deteriorated to the level of automaton or machine, and truly have nothing to add to this discussion.
You are the one who seems to be discomforted by that part of the story. I posit that the problem is within you, not us.
ketch's goal is to get this story out there. for people to read it and to take it seriously.
it opens reading like an editorial, rather than a informative article. that's all i am saying.
to simplify for you, i am not saying it doesn't resonate with me. i have been invested in this story since we first learned about it.
Then why go this extreme to criticize over the way he chose to present the story? Again, I think you found it uncomfortable to read because you simply cannot admit you were emotionally moved by the story. That is extremely sad.
I think the general response has been quite the opposite.
translation: "i am not a psychologist but i did stay at a holiday inn last night."
of course i hope so. you obviously put a lot of effort into the article and i hope it gets peoples' attention.
Good work there Ketch. And, like so many others, I totally understand your thoughts as you lay there with you little one. Alas, I agree with the poster who says that the Baylor deal will soon blow over. There are no media in Waco and America simply doesn't care about that little spec of dirt or its tiny irrelevant "school". At this point we can only hope for a massive piece of civil litigation, which, if nothing else, will expose the laundry. At this point of the season I am always too kool-aid driven so I'm not gonna buy the 7-5 deal. But in any case, an excellent piece of work.
Actually, it's not. After all, @BurntOrangeBassAssassin was banned for offering up very civil discourse on this issue. Several tried to engage him, including @Ketchum, and none found satisfaction. BOBA never lost his cool, insulted anyone, or broke any rules that I can think of. Meanwhile, he was blasted by dozens of you, insulted, and ultimately banned for sharing a difference of opinion and then having the stones to defend that opinion. He's not the first long-time poster of value that's been run out of here. Lots of good dudes now on various other sites or who simply don't participate on here nearly as much as they used to. I'm all for people that have varying opinions on a matter as long as they can engage in calm, thoughtful discourse. More and more, that's not accepted around these parts and it's a shame.
In this thread, I've seen people fall all over themselves trying to congratulate @Ketchum on his courage in tackling this issue. I suppose this issue wasn't being tackled by anyone else.....Like the criminal justice system or anyone like that. Also, just so I can join the club of men that can create female offspring, I also have a daughter. She's the light of my life and I believe she might be the greatest thing that has ever happened to Earth. Now that I'm a member of the club, I suppose I can offer an opinion.....Or can I? Being that I enjoy discussing the Rangers and other random things with many of you, I'll hold off as I understand pretty well where opposing the mob ends up.
I know for a fact there are more than a few of you that are both sickened by what happened to the actual victim in this case and at least slightly perturbed at the "look at me" (at least that's how it's come across to many of us) nature of the O-Bloods staff around this issue and the petty treatment of those who disagree. It is possible to share both opinions at the same time. Just my buck o' five. If I'm unable to post after this post, I suppose I'll catch several of you on the 15th at the suite. Someone just copy my list and email it to me.
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