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Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Let's just talk about it all... again)

The #2 ‘what if’ should have been ‘what if Fred didn’t keep his defense on the field protecting against an unlikely fake punt’. Curry should have never been on the field.
 
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I think the pressure to come out and speak increases if Texas plays in the Big 12 title game.

He can't stay silent until 12/20 IMO.
A) Why not? There's not any rule that an AD has to make himself available for comment.

B) Even if he does speak, I still don't see how you think that mean he is painted into a corner. He can literally say anything he wants to a group of reporters and it won't change a thing.
 
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so Let’s take out his first year because every coach always gets a transition year. Year 2- Sugar Bowl win
Year 3- Underachieved, inexcusable. Made necessary coaching changes
Year 4- On the cusp of a potential 8-2 season and CCG birth

The losing to OU and TCU are absolutely an issue. Keep in mind that OU has been humming as program for several years. It’s going to take us time to catch up. Lincoln was handed the keys to an elite program. Tom took over a program that hadn’t experienced even a winking season in several years. I just think it’s lazy to not acknowledge the fact that Tom has actually taken the right steps to get this program going in the right direction. Maybe the UM rumors have just blinded people to all that.
The problem with your argument is that even winning games this team shows the same issues that it has shown since Herman got here. They win ugly close contests against teams they are vastly more talented than. The recruiting class of 2021 is an unmitigated disaster and 2022 isn't going to be any better.
 
I loved watching us only have 287 total yards against OSU. In year 4 and recruiting below an elite level, I just don’t see Tom taking this program to the place it needs to be. You can’t lose to that TCU team and keep your job....that’s just not acceptable. Period. Once again having this “we don’t fire coaches mid season” philosophy leads to leaving a sliver of hope for a failing coach. You do the inevitable when it’s obvious and you do it without hesitation
 
The #2 ‘what if’ should have been ‘what if Fred didn’t keep his defense on the field protecting against an unlikely fake punt’. Curry should have never been on the field.

Colt going down and Curry fumbling are the two biggest for me. That 1983 defense is one the greatest defenses I’ve seen in my lifetime. Such a shame on Texas missing out.
 
so Let’s take out his first year because every coach always gets a transition year. Year 2- Sugar Bowl win
Year 3- Underachieved, inexcusable. Made necessary coaching changes
Year 4- On the cusp of a potential 8-2 season and CCG birth

The losing to OU and TCU are absolutely an issue. Keep in mind that OU has been humming as program for several years. It’s going to take us time to catch up. Lincoln was handed the keys to an elite program. Tom took over a program that hadn’t experienced even a winking season in several years. I just think it’s lazy to not acknowledge the fact that Tom has actually taken the right steps to get this program going in the right direction. Maybe the UM rumors have just blinded people to all that.

if you call beating subpar talented teams by only one score heading in the right direction then in reality we are spinning our tires in the mud. Losing to those same subpar talented teams is not heading in the right direction. Urban rumors aren’t blinding my ability to see shit football week in and week out. The only games we ever look remotely prepared for are meaningless bowl games and that’s a problem. We’ve only dominated and outclassed two opponents for a full four quarters in the Tom Herman era. San Jose State and UTEP. We don’t play the best players. We don’t have a sense of urgency like ever. I think people are more blinded by the chance at playing for a Big12 title that is a mirage just like the sugar bowl was.
 
Fan of the program. Herman is not good for the future of the program. Most of us can see it
That’s the statement of the year unbelievable that everybody is going to tie this to some wins and losses.. he’s not the guy. He had so many players returning with a senior quarterback the big 12 sucks this should’ve been an undefeated year.
 
Herman shouldn't have a job at Texas regardless of what happens the rest of the year. Even if he wins the Big 12 in the worst Big 12 season I've ever seen it more than likely is the only title he will ever win.

Recruiting is not going to get better next year.
Next season is going to be ugly
We will just end up sitting here in November of 2021 talking about Herman's job security again...Assuming he doesn't get canned mid-season after getting blasted by OU....AGAIN.
Our roster has been improving every year. Next year we will have the strongest roster we have had in ten years.
We now have the best coaching staff we have had in many years. The previous three years of recruiting have probably been the best three years since Mack’s best years. At least according to Rivals.
The environment may be so toxic that we have to make a change but we don’t have to demonize Herman to make a change.
 
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If Herman loses to ISU is it more likely he’s gone within a few days or after the regular season?
 
Herman isn't losing his job if he wins the first conference title since 2009. H'e just not IMO.

Ketch, after watching ou this weekend, do you believe Texas beats them in the CCG?
 
so Let’s take out his first year because every coach always gets a transition year. Year 2- Sugar Bowl win
Year 3- Underachieved, inexcusable. Made necessary coaching changes
Year 4- On the cusp of a potential 8-2 season and CCG birth

The losing to OU and TCU are absolutely an issue. Keep in mind that OU has been humming as program for several years. It’s going to take us time to catch up. Lincoln was handed the keys to an elite program. Tom took over a program that hadn’t experienced even a winking season in several years. I just think it’s lazy to not acknowledge the fact that Tom has actually taken the right steps to get this program going in the right direction. Maybe the UM rumors have just blinded people to all that.
So you think Herman and Co great recruiting and the lose of top recruits is going to change the program around? Also, the constant boneheaded coaching decisions on game day? No way that’s happening with Herman as the HC. Not happening
 
1,2 & 3 on that "What If" list gives me a sick feeling all over again. Each one of them are just brutal for us fans.
 
The problem with your argument is that even winning games this team shows the same issues that it has shown since Herman got here. They win ugly close contests against teams they are vastly more talented than. The recruiting class of 2021 is an unmitigated disaster and 2022 isn't going to be any better.

Yep.

Next year we will have the strongest roster we have had in ten years.

Are you drunk? JFC....
 
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Why not just support the team like hell and root for us to win a conference title this? Amazing to me how many people could be mad at an 8-2 season and a CCG birth. It truly baffles me. And there is still a clear path for both of those to happen!
Umm, how about because we watched the TCU and OU games and they were fvcking pathetic coaching displays?
 
You missed my point.

No I get it. Curry never should have been back there. I’ve always felt bad for Curry because he was a good safety. The coaches or maybe Akers should take the blame.

I was 13 at the time and don’t believe that I will ever see that great a defense again at Texas. 2009 was a great defense.
 
While my support for Herman ran its course a while ago, I would find it fascinating if during his next PC he’s asked again about Urban directly and he says something like,

“You know I don’t focus on things like that, my job is to win football games. But regarding Urban specifically, I coached with him for several years and know a lot about his off the field issues including protecting a coach that was abusing his spouse. During my time at the University of Texas, everyone from the ADs to the University Presidents that I have worked with have always acted with and preached the highest levels of ethical conduct. So for that reason alone, I could never see UM as the coach of the University of Texas.”

While he’d never utter those words, it would definitely make a lot of buttholes pucker.
 
Fake insider glazes over a lot to reach his point. Very odd all these lurker accounts are coming out of the woodwork with hot takes since the Ketchum CDC piece.
Ha. Appreciate the “fake insider” title, that’s rich. Also, what has happened since those two losses? Wait for it....we’ve won every game we’ve played. We were backed into a corner early in the season and have come out fighting ever since. I know you may not believe this because Tom Herman bad, but it actually does take time for teams to adapt to new schemes on both sides of the ball
 
I don't see that at all. If we developed players you would have something there, but that hasn't happened, and Sam won't be around to bail out awful game plans next year.
Last year were primarily an underclass team. This year the transition class should be red-shirt juniors. Herman’s first real class (2018) are redshirt sophomores.
He realized that his staff had done a great job of recruiting but had not developed the young players as well as he expected. So he was allowed to go out and hire coaches known for their development skills. Unfortunately, development takes time and we have seen some of that on defense but offense takes a little more time. For the team’s sake, I hope it finally comes out on offense.
Unfortunately, even if the development starts showing, it may be too late for this program without changing coaches.
 
While my support for Herman ran its course a while ago, I would find it fascinating if during his next PC he’s asked again about Urban directly and he says something like,

“You know I don’t focus on things like that, my job is to win football games. But regarding Urban specifically, I coached with him for several years and know a lot about his off the field issues including protecting a coach that was abusing his spouse. During my time at the University of Texas, everyone from the ADs to the University Presidents that I have worked with have always acted with and preached the highest levels of ethical conduct. So for that reason alone, I could never see UM as the coach of the University of Texas.”

While he’d never utter those words, it would definitely make a lot of buttholes pucker.
I know you are just kidding but that is how rumors get started.
 
Ha. Appreciate the “fake insider” title, that’s rich. Also, what has happened since those two losses? Wait for it....we’ve won every game we’ve played. We were backed into a corner early in the season and have come out fighting ever since. I know you may not believe this because Tom Herman bad, but it actually does take time for teams to adapt to new schemes on both sides of the ball
There's a reason outside of wins/losses that Tom Herman doesn't have many fans. He's still an immature coach who took this job before he was truly ready. He makes excuses and under-deliver. We should be striving to compete with Clemson, Bama, and tOSU. We should demand more.
 
In year 2 he lost 4 games including losing to Maryland (AGAIN), losing to an average at best OSU, an average WVU and he got beat on national TV by OU in the Big 12 title game. Oh and let's not forget he was one competent Tulsa kicker away from losing at home to F*ING TULSA and he barely beat Kansas by 7.

And let's talk about his staff changes....Where are the elite recruiters? Where is his Brewster type guy? Yurcich is irrelevant because we all know Turtle Tom is forcing Yurcich to call the offense the way he wants it called. Special teams is crap. The WRs couldn't beat man coverage if you gave them a 5 second head start. The OL is utter shit (Why was Hand retained?) And the TEs are....There....That's about the most you can say. The RB rotation is asinine and Tom is trying to destroy Sam's body by forcing him to take so many hits by running the ball and playing behind a horrible OL.

And that doesn't even begin to touch on his failure as a recruiter and program builder. Why the hell did we not recruit a true Center until year 3? Why have we whiffed on the elite OL talent? How in the bloodiest of bloody blue hells did Herman manage to lose the Brockermeyers whose father and grandfather played for Texas and who have a brother on the damn team right now....And then there is Ewers...Lol Tom has torpedoed this program so badly that it makes the Lusitania look like it just had a minor leak...
I feel like you either popped a blood vessel or pooped yourself while typing that.
 
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I think there’s a better chance Texas would have played Ohio State in a rematch in 2006, even though most people would not have liked it. With only an early loss to the #1 team blemishing their record, I find it hard to believe the Buckeyes would have been ranked behind the Gators in the final BCS poll.
 
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