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Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (The contract for my No.1 expires soon)

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Screw it. Biggest story in the entire sports world for 2017 is if you could convince Peyton Manning to take the reins.
Duh...I know he has never coached but he has run camps and there can be no doubt about his football IQ.
And he has a huge personality.
Texas is in dire need of something HUGE after Mack mailed it in for his last three years and Charlie being in way over his head for three years.
Gotta have HUGE.
Peyton.
 
@Ketchum its not really a 2016 release but most played album for me has been the Hamilton Soundtrack. Don't know your thoughts on theater world, but really is amazing show/album. Got to see it live was amazing after listening to album all year which was produced by The Roots.
 
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Good Lord do I want this to happen. Texas hiring John Harbaugh? SLAM DUNK! I'm not getting my hopes up.
...but 7 million?? I guess that would put him right up there with Nick and I'm sure it would end up more than 7. No big deal I guess. Look what 5 million gets you?
 
Honestly, I'm tired of the spread. It's ruining football. Look at the big 12. Pretty much everyone runs the spread and we suck as a league, especially on D. There's a reason why the league gets their head kicked in during bowl season. A punishing pro style O would kill it in the big 12.
I don't understand this logic. Why would you want to do away with it when that is what most all of these kds have played and know to something totally foreign to them and expect to raise their level of play ? I would think the most logic solution would be to learn how to shut it down on defense but keep the spread it can be entertaining a lot of times
 
Ketch.. That is your wish list....
BUT.....
What list do you see as a serious list Texas will actually pursue hard ?

What if Harbaugh and Chip are not realistic this time around, and Dabo and Peterson make long runs in the playoffs and aren't interested until long into January if at all?

Who do you see us actually pursuing that we have a better than 50/50 chance of
landing ?

Do you see Texas going hard after Gary Patterson ?

Also did not see Harsin on your list ?
 
I don't think that is certain at all. Run a Twitter search on "John Harbaugh extension" and see what's being said.

His team is on a four-game losing streak for the first time ever under him and there's a real movement for change.

He also pulled a Charlie Strong and fired his OC after 3 games this year..
Personally hope he's not the UT coach next year unless he brings back Stockton, without him, he has several more losses on his resume..
 
Does anyone actually think Jim Harbaugh, and his offensively philosophy wouldn't have Texas dragging our nuts across people's foreheads? I mean, surely that's not a real thing.
Agree... He will NOT be the HC at Texas next year.. No need to worry , UT probably won't even contact him..
 
Texas would never talk to Kelly.

Dabo isn't going anywhere unless and until Bama calls.

Peterson isn't going anywhere.

Harbaugh's contract is through 2017. His job is in no danger. He might be intrigued but you'd likely have to pay him $8m. I don't see that happening.

Which brings you back to Herman.

Agree..
I don't think Ketch gave us a realistic list at all, just HIS own personal wish list.. But he identified it as such, so no problem at all with how he presented it..

I too would love Peterson, but he will be coaching late into January and Texas can't afford to be strung along till then and still end up with a plan B candidate..

Dabo's not happening..
Peterson's not happrning..

Would love to see a realistic list of candidates, those that UT might actually pursue ..
 
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So, were Duvernay, Hudson, Urquidez scraps? What a stupid remark.
and the other Duvernay... Yes it was a stupid remark..

Charlie recruited Catalon and Charlie failed miserably in his evaluation, not Herman..
And Deandre Mcneal, Cecil cherry, ryan newsome and on and on..

Everyone gets scraps, Jake Coaker, NC QB for BAMA (from FSU)... Mayfield to OU, Knight to ATM, etc.....

Dude had no clue what he was saying...
 
I'd make the call. There have been whispers he's entertain the college game if the right situation opened up.
My concern with Harbaugh is that as far as I know he has no experience in recruiting/ That is a huge if for me. He is a very good coach, though. I am still down for Herman if it is not Urban Meyer
 
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I like your list of candidates to replace CS with the exception of Chip Kelly. I don't get good vibes from him and feel he would not be good for Texas. Would he win, yes. But at what cost? I'm not ready to sell my soul to the devil...okay, for Saban maybe, but not for kelly.
"Would he win, yes." STOP, STOP, STOP
 
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Great list Ketch! I agree you put down a list of who you would like to see not a list of who may/may not answer the phone. We are early in the process and it is fun to speculate. One name I would add is Bobby Petrino. First comments will be about his "baggage" and off the field issues. He made a mistake by porking a hot coed / assnt professor. Big mistake that has cost him way north of $10M. He is from my hometown I know the shit he took from the media paled in comparison to the shit he got from his family. He was humbled for sure.

Now take away that and lets talk football. Brought Louisville to relevance. Went to Arkasas and had them favored to win SEC West going into his fateful year. Again resurrected Louisville to national prominence. Like a HC that can do that in multiple locations with multiple recruiting classes (eliminate one hit wonders). Offensive mastermind and I would put him up with anyone in football for developing a quarterback. Recruits very well. Develops talent. Have not heard any issues with graduation rate, boosters, media, etc. So his ability to coach and handle the big stage is there. Very close loss to Clemson AT Clemson and he would be clear playoff contender. Right now just on outside. I have a feeling Louisville will run all over Houston later this year.

So again, other than a bout of infidelity, why wouldnt he be a good fit? Granted he may have trouble dragging his nut sack over opponents forehead since his wife probably cut off his balls.
 
Ketch,
Do you think the reason Houston maybe be underperforming in recent weeks could be due to the fact his players know he might be leaving after the season and he is looking to far intot the future and coaching else where next year?
 
In a perfect world, the names appearing on Ketch's Top 6 would be meaningful head coaches to consider. However, as we're living in the real world which includes a Texas football program that continues to be the punchline across all of college football, my guess is that not a single name appearing in Ketch's Top 6 list would even entertain the conversation. Why?... 1) No AD, 2) LSU will eat first, 3) USC will eat second, 4) Big XII simply isn't that attractive, especially considering the brand of "PlayStation" football being played, 5) See reasons #1-#4. Therefore, if/when Texas terminates CS's contract, the Texas fandom should have very real expectations about what's coming next. \m/
I think you are really underselling the UT job. We are both just guessing here but all things being equal we get a coach before those two program IMO.
 
And for all you "At least make the call to Saban"ers I'm curious which is a more accurate comparison:

Us being the Charlie Brown while Saban plays the role of Lucy holding the football for us or;
Us being that desperate band-geek who keeps asking the prom queen out because she smiled at us once back in grade school and we've seen too many John Hughes movies?

They are naming sandwiches and erecting statues of him in Tuscaloosa, why would he leave an automatic playoff bid there to try to reinvent the wheel in Austin and have to put up with a whole new set of problems/donors/etc? Because Mary finds Tuscaloosa droll? Get real.
So you're saying there's a chance
 
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You sure changed your opinion on who to go after pretty quickly. The other day I remember seeing you say something along the lines of "don't over complicate this go get your guy." In reference to Herman
 
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My concern with Harbaugh is that as far as I know he has no experience in recruiting/ That is a huge if for me. He is a very good coach, though. I am still down for Herman if it is not Urban Meyer
This is why you hire Tim Brewster as asst head coach/ST and let him show John the ropes of college recruiting. Winning is the best recruiter though. Also take a look at Michigans coaching staff directory. That's the blue print for how to run a big d1. I bet they have 40 people working for the football team.
 
No we aren't about Herman at all, there's a group of fanboys on this site who act like he is but he's not. Is he one of the best candidates available? Absolutely. And I'd be all for giving him his next opportunity here. But anyone acting like he's a sure thing is just seeing what they want to see. He comes with a very limited track record and experience, and this job ask a lot more out of coaches.

I'd hope our real search resembles something like your list where we check with proven coaches first and make them say no. If we wanna give Herman a blank check fine, but let's not turn into groupies and act like Herman is a slam dunk with no blemishes.

Nobody is saying Herman is a guarantee. Gursnteees don't exist unless you are hiring a total fantasy like saban or Meyer.

Herman is the most realistic choice and will be the likely hire in a short process IMO. He isn't perfect but his potential is high. It's a no brainer as lots of names being put out are fantasy. I mean John Harbaugh hasn't coached in college in a few decades and Texas would have to offer maybe up to 8-9m for a guy who is totally a NFL guy and has zero recruting connections or even much college experience outside being a position coach 20 years ago

No coach Texas hires will ever be as chummy as Mack was. Saban, Petersen, Meyer? I'm fairly certain they don't want to deal with boosters. Charlie has managed to well with mingling with boosters. It's the on the field part that has Charlie in trouble, not mingling with boosters.

Respectfully, nobody will give a shit about the other facets as long as he gets Texas to win on the field. They will look the other way on that stuff.

I would be shocked if he even gets a call. Fenves messing with a guy Texas turned in for cheating is fantasy. Chip Kelly makes Strong look like Mack brown in dealing with the other facets of the Texas job. He would be a total fish out of water. He couldn't even handle dealing with Phil knight
 
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Is that right? I did a Twitter search and every single Tweet about his contract status says this year.

Even if it is 2017, I don't think that would be a big hurdle.

I agree that John Harbaugh is my #1 phone call. In the college football coaching world, the only sure things are guys named Saban, Meyer, or Harbaugh.

If you don't get one of those four guys, it doesn't mean that there isn't another guy out there who can't be just as great, but there is uncertainty in hiring anyone else. Herman could be the next Stoops, Chad Morris could be Art Briles without the rapey-ness... or either guy could be the next Charlie Strong. John Harbaugh looks like the only sure thing that we have any chance at hiring, so he would absolutely be my first call.

Money should be no issue for a school that has $15M more per year in TV revenue than any other school in the country from LHN.
 
I agree that John Harbaugh is my #1 phone call. In the college football coaching world, the only sure things are guys named Saban, Meyer, or Harbaugh.

If you don't get one of those four guys, it doesn't mean that there isn't another guy out there who can't be just as great, but there is uncertainty in hiring anyone else. Herman could be the next Stoops, Chad Morris could be Art Briles without the rapey-ness... or either guy could be the next Charlie Strong. John Harbaugh looks like the only sure thing that we have any chance at hiring, so he would absolutely be my first call.

Money should be no issue for a school that has $15M more per year in TV revenue than any other school in the country from LHN.
A guy who hasn't coached in college in almost 2 decades isn't any sure thing. Harbaugh is a 100% pro coach with no recruiting connections. His college experience consists of last being a position coach many years ago. I'm also not sure how he would adapt to the college style and the big 12 spread offenses

I don't dislike the guy but it's a massive fantasty. He's likely not getting fired in Baltimore and even if he did he would instantly get another NFL head job making a ton. It was rumored in 2015 USC wanted him and be had no interest in college
 
I think you are really underselling the UT job. We are both just guessing here but all things being equal we get a coach before those two program IMO.
I'd really like to think that too but I'm not sure LSU and USC aren't more attractive options because of stability of the overall athletic department and conference. As fans we assume coaches want to play for the biggest names out there but in reality it's a job for those guys just like the jobs we take and things such as liking your boss and thinking your employer is headed in the right direction make a difference when you're talking about the difference between two or three very close programs. It's not like we're competing with Purdue and Colorado State. USC and LSU are attractive options.
 
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I'd really like to think that too but I'm not sure LSU and USC aren't more attractive options because of stability of the overall athletic department and conference. As fans we assume coaches want to play for the biggest names out there but in reality it's a job for those guys just like the jobs we take and things such as liking your boss and thinking your employer is headed in the right direction make a difference when you're talking about the difference between two or three very close programs. It's not like we're competing with Purdue and Colorado State. USC and LSU are attractive options.
They are attractive options but you seem to be only focusing on on UT's warts while completely ignoring USC's and LSU's. USC has a more dysfunctional athletic department than we do. Which includes have a drunk coach insult BMD, firing a coach on the tarmac, and being only a few months removed from one of the worst ADs in the modern history of major college football. And LSU fired a coach three games into a season after averaging double digit wins (or something close to that). Not to mention publicly held his job in limbo at the end of last season. Also, a lot of people not connected with UT have publicly cited UT is the best job in college football or a top 5 job in college football. I don't think LSU and USC are top 5 jobs IMO.
It seems like people here see how the sausage is made at Texas and rightfully aren't thrilled with the process. But when they look at other programs they never take the time to look behind the curtain. That creates a warped view and causes people to see Texas in a disproportionately negative light.
There is a case to be made that some might favor the LSU and USC opportunities over Texas right now. I personally don't think it is a very strong case and it seems like the majority of sport journalist and personalities view UT as the better opportunity. But it is a plausible argument IMO.
 
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With regards to your coaching picks, and if I had a voice in the pick;

Can't argue with Your #1 in Harbaugh.

#2 Chip Kelly is a douchebag and I wouldn't let him step foot in the state of Texas Much less coach our team. Put Dabo in his spot. Like you with Harbaugh, I've meet and talked to Dabo in Myrtle Beach, the dude is infectious with the way he lives and breaths college football He would do great at Texas.

#3 Tom Herman probably not much more to be said then what's already been put out there.

#4 Jimbo Fisher a proven coach and it's hard to argue a 73-16 record at FSU.

#5 Gary Patterson for the same reasons.

#6 Mark Richt Texas isn't Georgia and I think he could have huge success at Texas.
 
I am glad you aren't their agent because you would be fi red real quick. You realize ignoring phone calls would cost them raises right?

Sure, give him a quick call.
I'd really like to think that too but I'm not sure LSU and USC aren't more attractive options because of stability of the overall athletic department and conference. As fans we assume coaches want to play for the biggest names out there but in reality it's a job for those guys just like the jobs we take and things such as liking your boss and thinking your employer is headed in the right direction make a difference when you're talking about the difference between two or three very close programs. It's not like we're competing with Purdue and Colorado State. USC and LSU are attractive options.

Completely agree. We are a shit show. Great list of what-ifs, but who leaves their current job to jump into the frying pan in Austin. We got BDMs cutting side deals with Saban, No AD, fan base that is never happy.....where do you stop the list detractors?
 
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