Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (The most important position coach in 2017 is...)
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What kind of horsing around are you engaged in that causes this?
"Types of bruises". I wasn't referring to their locations. Bruises of that size and color can come up very easily depending on the person.
Lol. Nothing in that girls pasts suggests you should trust her either.
It's not attacking her to point out not only did she ask people to lie for her to set zeke up but that multiple witnesses didn't share her view of what happened either.
In addition the DA flat out admitted they found conflicts and inconsistencies in ALL of her claims.
How can that just be cast aside?
Such a short response.
Yes or no, is it important if the bruises are from her striking Zeke (or someone else), as opposed to something Zeke did?
Yes or no, does it matter if she was the instigator of the physical altercation, and Zeke was merely holding her back to defend himself?
Yes or no, does it matter if those bruises were from a bar fight that had nothing to do with Zeke?
It's the SJW way to be so overly dramatic. Don't you for a second pretend the NFL has more information than the police and district attorney that do this for a living.
They couldn't prove zeke hit anyone and tried. They also said they found issues with every single claim the girl made.
You just ignore all that or pretend it doesn't matter with your agenda
The only one that is really disconcerting is the one on the neck. The others look more like someone who was the aggressor in a fight. If that was a man in these photos, everyone would be talking about the bruises show he punched the hell out of someone.What kind of horsing around are you engaged in that causes this?
Other than the neck, they simply don't look like someone who was abused. They look like fight marks.
Again, there's no one in this story to completely trust in. Yet, the NFL has all of that info and they believe, along with specialists in the field, that he did abuse her.
It's an ugly, complicated situation.
We're literally debating something super trivial, but...
He missed all of spring and is hardly a veteran starter. Am I supposed to really place much importance on how they line up on Day 1 of Fall Camp. The fact is when it came time to suit up in first day of full pads he was running first team Center. Now, you tell me how important that Day 1 one.
In this imaginary pecking order, a healthy J-Rod is in front of Shack. Neither of them are proven. I doubt either of them are plus-players. If you want to argue that Vahe is definitely in front of J-Rod, I don't care enough to debate. I have the same questions about all of them
You say there's nobody to "completely trust in," but only the accuser has been shown to have actually lied about the situation at hand. That is very telling.
What we've learned about CS in this thread.
Female: I was attacked by a man with a large knife.
CS: Tell me about the knife.
Female: It was a hunting knife. It was probably eight inches long.
CS:
No, the proper analogy is this:
@Ketchum: She was attacked with a claymore. Here's the picture.
@CS: That's a picture of a pocketknife, not a claymore.
Everything else you've said is drivel.
It's such a beating. Thankfully there are other fun parts to the site.
No kidding. But that isn't the SJW way. I mean the girl is documented as being questionable in every way but we should just automatically trust someone who asked people to lie for her against zeke
You are basing your level of optimism over a preseason game in which Dak, Dez, Zeke, Sean Lee, Scandrick, Witten, etc didn't play a snap? You don't believe in the reigning NFL Coach of the Year?
Do us all a favor and skip mentioning anything regarding the Cowboys and / or Zeke this season. Your thoughts on all things Cowboys are misplaced, lazy, dimwitted, and therefore irrelevant. Save yourself and your readers the time. Your thoughts on Zeke and that blurb about a meaningless preseason game is 10 minutes of my life I want back.
a.Man U. looked very strong in week one a year ago. I want to see a little more of a sample size before annointing them, something I didn't do a year ago when I said they would finish top two after the first week.
b. Thomas might be the next great American golfer. We need a nickname for Speith's crew.
c. I think linebacker will be fine. It IS a loaded group.
d. Gonna be a rough year in Dallas, I believe.
You don't know what they have, none of us really do, but you're convinced they absolutely can only do so with bias.
I'm not sure that is an objective position.
unfortunately the NFL disagreed and so did two medical experts:
"The investigators looked at photographs, medical records, and text messages. Two medical experts consulted by the league determined that a series of photographs of the woman’s injuries “appear recent and consistent” to her statements."
Is that what you would tell your daughter or sister if they approached you with that bruising.... that it looks like horsing around bruising?
I'm not casting that aside. What part of me saying that there are no trustworthy people in this story have you not seen?
and yet, the NFL believes it happened and Elliott has provided or attempted to provide any reasonable explanations. I can't turn away from that. None of us should.
And how exactly did they prove zeke made them vs her being in a bar fight per multiple witnesses?
There are also text messages with her asking people to lie for her.
She also made statements that allude
To her trying to ruin his career as well.
If they somehow proved he made the bruises they should turn it over to law enforcement or they are full of shit.
The Police saw those photos too and investigated them. They couldn't prove he assualted her and said ALL her claims had conflicts in them. But we are just supposed to ignore all that?
a. No, the football was ugly but it had little impact on how I think about the season. Nothing exciting happened, though.
b. No, I don't believe in Garrett, I never have.
Good day, sir.
The police believe he did abuse her.
Medical experts did as well.
he panel it put together did as well.
Again, there is all kinds of mess to sort through, as I've conceded numerous times. At the end of the day, they overwhelmingly believe he abused her.
Uh, no. I would simply ask how she acquired those bruises. Am I supposed to assume that because a woman has a bruise on them that it is the result of physical abuse?
If the NFL has overwhelming evidence that Zeke was routinely beating his girlfriend:
1.) Why only a 6 game suspension?
2.) Why didn't they turn the evidence over to the DA so they could prosecute him?
I am simply offering an alternative perspective to yours. You seem convinced that they are trustworthy here and I am explaining why they are not. They have yet to actually say or show anything of substance that would make me believe they actually have substantial evidence. If they really have something then he should receive much more punishment than a suspension, put his ass in jail.
Side note, his father apparently sent some stuff out and it appears that this is about to get ugly.
When you continue to lower your own bar, don't be shocked when you are called out. You claim to be reserving judgment in this case, siting a lack of credible / trustworthy parties, when it is completely clear that you have an agenda (as always). Zeke just gives you another podium. Disgusting, indeed.
Link to where the police made a statement that they believe Zeke abused her at any point, as you stated earlier? Guess that must be dismissed in the suspension of the investigation.
An opinion isn't proof. The police also had an issue with the girl.
The police couldn't prove he did anything. They couldn't prove he made the bruises but we are supposed to believe the NFL did? Multiple witnesses also don't back up her clsims. Are they all lying but she's telling the truth despite wanting people to lie for her?
They also admitted the accuser had problems across every single claim she made
She's also documented as asking people to lie for her and making statements about ruining Zeke's career. That doesn't give you a big pause on just believing her? It did to the police and district attorney
I don't know for sure if he didn't or did do something but neither does the NFL and if they somehow have this magic evidence that proves he did it should be turned over to the police or otherwise I will continue to believe they are full of shit
Pretty sad isn't it? If you offer up any commentary other than suggesting Zeke is guilty of beating this woman, then you are in the wrong.
