Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend: (The problems on offense....)

[SR60]

What is going through Arch’s mind right now???

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He's being patient, I'm told.

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Arch knows he as 3 seasons as a starter and he isn't likely to leave early regardless of what kind of numbers he puts up in 2 years as a starter. times are different now but both Eli and Payton didn't leave early. if Arch was looking for a fast track to the NFL he would have gone somewhere he could be starting by now.

 

[boernefan]

The hope is that he'll be close to 100% after having two more weeks to treat it.

What is the injury?

 

[hornfanaustin]

I agree, big picture. My post was about the context of this season. Are you supremely confident he’d roll into Fayetteville & College Station and ball? I’m not. I have more faith in Quinn in those situations at this time .

If you asked me right now whether I would rather have Quinn the way he has been playing or Arch going forward I would take Arch.

Sure Arch is still young and learning, but his pass distribution and ability to throw the deep ball gives us a better chance to win IMO.

Sure he would likely make some mistakes, but his upside would make up for them IMO.

 

[Bigsnack75]

The players believe in Quinn.

You know more than I, but the way the oline panics to their own self created pressures makes me wonder if they trust him currently.

 

[MB-HORNS]

It hasn't quite worked out.

That's too bad. Hoping you get it figured out soon. Good luck

 

[Ketchum]

What is the injury?

ankle

 

[Ketchum]

That's too bad. Hoping you get it figured out soon. Good luck

I will.

 

[hornfanaustin]

It hasn't quite worked out.

That is too bad 😞

Hope you figure out a way to address the basketball coverage.

 

[Hookemtms70]

Where does responsibility for all of this regression and inability to consistently succeed fall? I think we know.

Lol. What is your point? What do you want to happen to Sark?

“I think we know” geezus!

 

[Ketchum]

That is too bad 😞

Hope you figure out a way to address the basketball coverage.

I will.

 

[boernefan]

I know I am preaching to the choir, but his loyalty should lie with the team, not Quinn. Players will sniff that BS out.

Could it be that he really believes that this is Quinn’s team and that the team will rally behind Quinn?
I believe Sark really really wants to win.

 

[RLong68]

No. 7 - About the defense ...

In the event you're concerned that too much of the column is based on negative things, take a look at these defensive numbers:

Not sure we’ve had this loaded a DB room in decades. Yes, decades. Obviously’05 was loaded amongst the top but this one honestly feels like 8+ deep when we look back at it 10 years from now.

 

[RLong68]

According to Pro Football Focus, Ewers has thrown 31.0% of his passes behind the line of scrimmage this season, while 36.9% are within 0-9 yards of the line of scrimmage. By comparison, only 25.0% of Arch Mannings's passes have been behind the line of scrimmage and only 28.6% of his throws have been between 0-9 yards. Meanwhile, Manning's instinct to throw the ball 20+ yards down the field (20.2%) is one of the reasons why he would lead the nation in yards per attempt if he had enough attempts to qualify.

Like I said in a couple other threads the offense seems to be operating within the congmfines of a 10 yard box. And 3 of those yards are behind the LOS

 

[Ketchum]

Not sure we’ve had this loaded a DB room in decades. Yes, decades. Obviously’05 was loaded amongst the top but this one honestly feels like 8+ deep when we look back at it 10 years from now.

In terms of depth, you are correct.

 

[Ketchum]

Like I said in a couple other threads the offense seems to be operating within the congmfines of a 10 yard box. And 3 of those yards are behind the LOS

 

[hornfanaustin]

Have you given thought that Sark isn’t the offensive genius everyone wants to think he is? It’s year 4 and we’ve been complaining largely about the same things all 4 years while the defensive is a solid and sound unit. Does he have great plays? Yes. Is he a great play caller? Maybe not.

 

[McLovin327]

If they fire ten Hag this week, I'll never forgive the Hammers.

Yeah, but......

 

[Ketchum]

Yeah, but......

 

[boernefan]

What is going through Arch’s mind right now???

My guess would be he wants to get in there to win the games but wants to be loyal to Quinn.
Tough situation for all.

 

[RLong68]

(Sell) Sam played with the following NFL skill players: Devin Duvernay, Collin Johnson, Lil'Jordan Humphrey, Keaontay Ingram, Andrew Beck, Jared Wiley, Jordan Whittington, Roschon Johnson, and Bijan Robinson. Let's not pretend that he was a one-man gang that was always surrounded by bums. No, in general, he did not do more with less. I completely reject that notion.

A bit of a lack of nuance. For one, he played with generally crap OLs.
He had one year with Bijan
few thought much of Beck as a Texas TE
J-Whitt was far more injured than available with Sam
Those 3 WRs are no comparison to Ewers working with Worthy, AD, Bond, Moore, Golden, a HEALTHY J-Whitt
Helm & Sanders are FAR better TEs than Sam had.
Not to mention Ewes had a strong D to help

 

[Ketchum]

A bit of a lack of nuance. For one, he played with generally crap OLs.
He had one year with Bijan
few thought much of Beck as a Texas TE
J-Whitt was far more injured than available with Sam
Those 3 WRs are no comparison to Ewers working with Worthy, AD, Bond, Moore, Golden, a HEALTHY J-Whitt
Helm & Sanders are FAR better TEs than Sam had.
Not to mention Ewes had a strong D to help

The bottom line is that the idea he was carrying the load all himself without help is ridiculous.

 

[SeaEmEss]

How easily we forget what Arch looked like when he had a chance to take over as qb1 in the Georgia game. In the middle of a 7-1 season the likely chance of making this change is extremely rare. It takes what happened in the Georgia game make it possible, but then when given the chance you can’t literally fumble it away.

 

[Ketchum]

How easily we forget what Arch looked like when he had a chance to take over as qb1 in the Georgia game. In the middle of a 7-1 season the likely chance of making this change is extremely rare. It takes what happened in the Georgia game make it possible, but then when given the chance you can’t literally fumble it away.

It's ridiculous to draw any conclusions on two series coming in cold against a defense feeding at its apex.

 

[hornfanaustin]

How easily we forget what Arch looked like when he had a chance to take over as qb1 in the Georgia game. In the middle of a 7-1 season the likely chance of making this change is extremely rare. It takes what happened in the Georgia game make it possible, but then when given the chance you can’t literally fumble it away.

I don't really feel that is a fair assessment. He got a few series after Georgia had punched Texas in the mouth and the entire offense was reeling.

Had he been given the opportunity to come out after the half and gotten settled I feel he would have had success.

 

[Ketchum]

I don't really feel that is a fair assessment. He got a few series after Georgia had punched Texas in the mouth and the entire offense was reeling.

Had he been given the opportunity to come out after the half and gotten settled I feel he would have had success.

It's like judging a bullpen pitcher coming in with the bases loaded and no outs, and not being able to get out of the jam without allowing a run.

 

[RLong68]

The bottom line is that the idea he was carrying the load all himself without help is ridiculous.

That wasn’t the question nor have I seen anyone say “Sam did it all by himself.” I think it’s worth pondering that if you swapped their times at Texas I’m not sure the drop off for the ‘18-20 seasons isn’t greater than ‘23 & ‘24. Sam obviously had some physical limitations but it’s hard not to wonder of what he had from the chest up wouldn’t be huge for this team about now

 

[Hookemtms70]

He's coaching an offense that lives in a phone booth. The irony of the moment, is that this is not what he wants.

If it is “not what he wants,” and you think Arch gives this team the best chance to win, then it sounds like you believe Sark is knowingly holding the team back. Is this really what you are saying?

Given that, would you care to share why you think Sark would take such a chance and go with a quarterback who can't operate his entire offense (beyond a phone booth)?

 

[hornfanaustin]

It's like judging a bullpen pitcher coming in with the bases loaded and no outs, and not being able to get out of the jam without allowing a run.

🎯💯

 

[jaimeloco]

We did last year.

With a big 12 schedule

 

[SeaEmEss]

It's ridiculous to draw any conclusions on two series coming in cold against a defense feeding at its apex.

First off, I’m not drawing any conclusions on Arch in that situation. What I am saying is that in order to bench your current experienced qb1 that just lead you to cfp the prior season and a 7-1 record in the current season, when given a chance to relieve qb1 you can’t fumble it away. That’s it. I believe in Arch, but this is a unique situation.

And Ewers did come out in second half against Georgia with success as well.

Georgia 3Q: 7 of 10 for 90 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT (211.6 rating)

 

[streettopeschel]

With a big 12 schedule

Which lost to ou and won in Tuscaloosa. 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

[bdub12]

The bottom line is that the idea he was carrying the load all himself without help is ridiculous.

But he kinda was in Herman offense

 

[soysauce12]

Interesting to see the stats behind what is glaringly obvious on television.

I support either QB and hope that Quinn figures it out during the bye. Feels like a confidence thing with him. He hasn’t been the same QB since his injury. Or maybe this is just who he is… 🤷‍♂️

 

[Ketchum]

That wasn’t the question nor have I seen anyone say “Sam did it all by himself.” I think it’s worth pondering that if you swapped their times at Texas I’m not sure the drop off for the ‘18-20 seasons isn’t greater than ‘23 & ‘24. Sam obviously had some physical limitations but it’s hard not to wonder of what he had from the chest up wouldn’t be huge for this team about now

I dunno. His head his the ceiling in 2018 and it never went higher.

 

[Ketchum]

If it is “not what he wants,” and you think Arch gives this team the best chance to win, then it sounds like you believe Sark is knowingly holding the team back. Is this really what you are saying?

Given that, would you care to share why you think Sark would take such a chance and go with a quarterback who can't operate his entire offense (beyond a phone booth)?

Those are not the words that I would use to frame my thoughts.