Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (What I really think after 12 games...)
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Was not Mack Brown the picture boy of Entitlement ? ....maybe he can tell him how to loose a high paying job.
My guess is he loses so just a good year, not a great one. It’s still to be determined. If he wins I’ll agree with you. He, however, hasn’t historically won these games in the Big 12 which is why i’m pushing back. I’m waiting for him to actually do it.
Actually, Mack took full responsibility for "checking out" and letting the program. languish. He also went all out to get the program back on track {new hires, conferring with every big time coach around, including Saban & Meyer, etc}. But for a variety of reasons, wasn't able to right the ship in time {given}.
We are in a better place now than we were last year and the way the defense played isn't something you can toss aside. The defensive improvement was HUGE.
I'm not saying you aren't right to be disappointed, but who should we have realistically gone and gotten? Mike Dantonio? Mike Gundy? Gus Malzahn? Are any of those slamdunks in Texas Recruiting? Are any of them realistic?
If A&M doesn't get Jimbo Fisher, who do they think is realistically coming to CS that is an improvement over Sumlin? By the way, why would Fisher come to A&M?
Yeah, like now. Cold turkey, no desire for a sip. But after good to great recruiting, good news out of the strength and conditioning program, QBs and offense look good in spring, Gary Johnson is the new DJ, Patrick and Elijah and Denzel are monsters and Derek has grown up, and we have a wealth of great receivers, will I fall back off the wagon? Will you? Will all of OB? Probably.
i'm not sure he ever really did take responsibility, but he talked a lot about taking on the responsibility.
I did. Apparently you did not. We didnt finish 6-6 by accident. We did what average teams do.
Honest to God, I really wasn't surprised, and for two reasons:
1). I felt like I'd seen that movie before, and more than once
2). The last 1 1/2 quarters or so, it just felt like we were going to swallow the olive. It was one bad play, dropped pass, poor throw, foolish decision, muffed punt, after another.
I love me some 'Horns.....but our team had "gonna lose this game" written all over it during the second half this past Friday night.
That's a little like taking a 65-35 coin flip and suggesting that it would land on 35 four times in a row with relative ease.
"While I completely understand not believing in the Texas ground game, the dynamics of the situation were this:
a. You're two yards away from securing a victory.
b. Running the ball would have insured that Tech would have needed to call its final timeout immediately afterwards, regardless of the result.
c. If you don't get the first down, the option to use your best player (Michael Dickson) in an effort to pin the Red Raiders 90 yards away from pay-dirt with no timeouts absolutely existed.
The only thing that couldn't happen was a turnover or an incomplete pass.
So, what did Texas do?
Herman and Co. called a play that was intellectually insulting to anyone with an eye on game management. It felt like the kind of decision that Charlie Strong would make.[/QUOTE]
This should be grounds for dismissal. Herman's incompetence is on full display. You can't blame Beck because Herman has full veto power, he's HC, and it's all on him. As a fan hoping that we had found and hired the right guy, it was a punch in the gut and a kick in the cajones. After watching that, how can any of us have any confidence in Herman.
a. You're two yards away from securing a victory.
b. Running the ball would have insured that Tech would have needed to call its final timeout immediately afterwards, regardless of the result.
c. If you don't get the first down, the option to use your best player (Michael Dickson) in an effort to pin the Red Raiders 90 yards away from pay-dirt with no timeouts absolutely existed.
The only thing that couldn't happen was a turnover or an incomplete pass.
So, what did Texas do?
Herman and Co. called a play that was intellectually insulting to anyone with an eye on game management. It felt like the kind of decision that Charlie Strong would make.[/QUOTE]
This should be grounds for dismissal. Herman's incompetence is on full display. You can't blame Beck because Herman has full veto power, he's HC, and it's all on him. As a fan hoping that we had found and hired the right guy, it was a punch in the gut and a kick in the cajones. After watching that, how can any of us have any confidence in Herman.
This should be grounds for dismissal. Herman's incompetence is on full display. You can't blame Beck because Herman has full veto power, he's HC, and it's all on him. As a fan hoping that we had found and hired the right guy, it was a punch in the gut and a kick in the cajones. After watching that, how can any of us have any confidence in Herman.[/QUOTE]
Good lord. Overreact much? Do all boards at other sites have this high concentration of drama queens?
Good lord. Overreact much? Do all boards at other sites have this high concentration of drama queens?[/QUOTE]
Don't know about any of the other boards, but from the reaction from other posters, there are more than a few that agree with this drama queen. Evidently it didn't bother you very much. Maybe you didn't watch the game. And if you want to see real drama queens, get a subscription to Aggie Yell.
This should be grounds for dismissal. Herman's incompetence is on full display. You can't blame Beck because Herman has full veto power, he's HC, and it's all on him. As a fan hoping that we had found and hired the right guy, it was a punch in the gut and a kick in the cajones. After watching that, how can any of us have any confidence in Herman.[/QUOTE]
Mistakes occur. Some just can't ever happen twice. There's some stuff that Herman has to clean up in year two.
Texas was 10-3 in 2007 and scored 52 points in the Holiday Bowl.
Comparing Sam this year to Colt in 2007 is stupid. Their stats are hardly comparable
Where does this stuff come from? Has there ever been a single non-anonymous source or shred of evidence, or was this just reported on CNN?
Dude I thought Shane should get some time but 90% of this board wanted sam and said he was the reason we were even competing
The Horns 247 staff did an extensive article last week explaining in considerable detail the lengths that Mack Brown went to in order to convince Bill Powers and and Steve Patterson to scuttle attempts to hire Saban in 2013. While Mack's supporters try to cast doubt about whether Saban could've really been hired, if Saban wasn't a strong possibility, why would Mack be personally campaigning so hard to keep Saban from happening As for claims that Saban may have been just playing Texas for more money, the contract terms Alabama published were the same he had been offered several months before Texas entered the picture.
What the 247 article points out is that Mack, Powers, and Patterson, each acting for their own selfish reasons, were responsible for scuttling Texas' chances to hire the greatest coach in the history of college football.
You can't consider the state of the program over the past 4 years without pondering how much more improved it might have been without the self-interests of 3 individuals, all of whom would be out of power at Texas in less than a year.
Mistakes occur. Some just can't ever happen twice. There's some stuff that Herman has to clean up in year two.[/QUOTE]
Obviously Herman won’t be fired over this and the opportunity to vent in a post is sometimes too easy to resist. But Herman has too many years as a D-1 coach to have let this happen. Watching this leads to questions that shouldn’t have to be asked at UT.
Nobody said it was an accident, better coaching and player decision making and we are possibly 10-2.
Let's look at "could have easily been 10-2."
1. SC game. We gained 100 fewer yds on offense. We had a 5 minute deficit in TOP. never led until 45 seconds left after a miraculous final drive covering 91 yds.
2. Oklahoma. Gained 55 fewer yds on offense. 3 1/2 minute deficit in TOP. At one point was down 20 points. Another point down 13. Held one lead in the 4th quarter for 1 minute.
3. Oklahoma State. Outgained by 150 yds. A NINE minute deficit in TOP.
4. Texas Tech. Outgained by 60 yds. We did have a 3 minute advantage in TOP. Biggest lead we had was 10 points.
If you look at "game control" only ONE of those game could it be remotely argued we controlled the game. Against Tech. In the other games the other team scored first. We had significant deficit in TOP and yardage gained. Like it said, we didn't finish 6-6 by accident or "bad luck."
1. SC game. We gained 100 fewer yds on offense. We had a 5 minute deficit in TOP. never led until 45 seconds left after a miraculous final drive covering 91 yds.
2. Oklahoma. Gained 55 fewer yds on offense. 3 1/2 minute deficit in TOP. At one point was down 20 points. Another point down 13. Held one lead in the 4th quarter for 1 minute.
3. Oklahoma State. Outgained by 150 yds. A NINE minute deficit in TOP.
4. Texas Tech. Outgained by 60 yds. We did have a 3 minute advantage in TOP. Biggest lead we had was 10 points.
If you look at "game control" only ONE of those game could it be remotely argued we controlled the game. Against Tech. In the other games the other team scored first. We had significant deficit in TOP and yardage gained. Like it said, we didn't finish 6-6 by accident or "bad luck."
No they didn't say that. However, you said "easily" as did folks in Belmont apparently. That's what's laughable.
Certainly was not true for the TT game, was it. Ironically, if we had had just an average O-line, Sam would've hardly played this year.
This site was all in on Sam and were pissed that Shane played at all.
Sam is responsible for 3 of our losses.
ESPN has about as much credibility as Austin Statesman or Ft Worth Star Telegram - ie none but the willingness to provide information from at best dubious sources.
Coach Brown and Patterson were never on the same page. Patterson wanted Coach Mack out.
