Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Admitting I'm wrong isn't so hard after all...)

[Ketchum]

To hammer home my point in my previous reply, I've highlighted the guys who legitimately could be described as contributors. TEN of 67. In other words, a LOT of dead weight cut loose.

It's misguided to only highlight the "contributors", while not highlighting the guys that absolutely had the talent to be significant ones with added development. For instance, you highlighted two guys alone in 2014 that wouldn't have been as good as some others in that same year had they developed properly.

Kendall Sanders, as an example.

 

[RLong68]

Hell, in the history of the Rivals rankings, only five other quarterbacks have been 6.0 high-four stars: Robbie Reid (2004), Stephen McGee (2004), Jevan Snead (2006), and Tyrik Rollison (2009).

woof.

 

[RLong68]

It's misguided to only highlight the "contributors", while not highlighting the guys that absolutely had the talent to be significant ones with added development. For instance, you highlighted two guys alone in 2014 that wouldn't have been as good as some others in that same year had they developed properly.

Kendall Sanders, as an example.

Fair enough. That leaves 56 other guys. How many of those types are in there? History has shown few went on to do anything of substance elsewhere:

Roberson
Harrison

Of the most recent guys, you have Bru and Rising as the only real possibilities that will cause us any sort of "regret." So I wasn't THAT misguided.

 

[Ketchum]

We discussed this in another thread, but worth repeating that we know 2021 won't be small class. If for some reason it somehow is than given the in-state depth of '21's talent pool that will have been a HUGE mistake on Herman's part. But given how quickly we've gotten out of the box, there literally is ZERO indication the staff is going to be conservative on class size.

I think they are just doing that to create the idea that there's a run on a shortage of spots. We've seen the tactic a lot over the years.

 

[Ketchum]

woof.

indeed

 

[RLong68]

I think that's been the case in the last few years, but that hasn't been the case historically.

I would disagree. I'm sure there are a handful of names here or there, but even in the Mack era I don't exactly thinking too many times "dang, I wish he had stayed."

 

[Ketchum]

Fair enough. That leaves 56 other guys. How many of those types are in there? History has shown few went on to do anything of substance elsewhere:

Roberson
Harrison

Of the most recent guys, you have Bru and Rising as the only real possibilities that will cause us any sort of "regret." So I wasn't THAT misguided.

I think the number is higher than you're conceding, but I think the good news for Herman is that he's losing guys that I wouldn't include in the massive upside department.

The program has also stopped losing guys to drugs, arrests and dumb shit for the most part.

 

[RLong68]

If you eyeball the current roster objectively, and factor in typical attrition "profiles" you can easily identify 10-12 candidates amongst the Junior and Soph classes.

 

[Guy Smiley]

Man, that Tarantino list reminds me of just how many great, great scenes there have been in his movies. There are many scenes from Django that could be included as well.

 

[RLong68]

... Brooks Koepka won a tournament this weekend and it wasn't a major. Go figure.

It was a big event though. There was really zero doubt he was going to whip Rory's ass yesterday. One guy is rock solid from chest up. The other guy is Rory. Koepka is easily the closest we've seen to Tiger's prime in terms of when the chips are down. Until further notice, he is easily the favorite for any major. At this point it would be rather stunning if he doesn't win the Fed Ex cup. Already has POY wrapped up.

 

[Craben]

Attrition occurs for 3 reasons: injuries; dismissals; and transfers. Injuries are an inevitable part of football. Dismissals are because of a breach of discipline. The program experienced a number of dismissals under Strong and Herman because Club Mack's look-the-other-way drug compliance was no longer tolerated. Tranfers occur because a player either knows he's about to be dismissed or because he believes his path to playing time is blocked by talent above him on the roster. The increase of transfers for the latter reason is a sign of important progress in building a championship program.

 

[Chetbitterlemon]

True Romance is a top 5 movie of mine. You picked the best clip too. Good stuff, Ketch. My Monday is off to a great start.

 

[Ketchum]

If you eyeball the current roster objectively, and factor in typical attrition "profiles" you can easily identify 10-12 candidates amongst the Junior and Soph classes.

You can do that every single year in every program. The key is to get those 10-12 to transfer and not the ones you want to stick around.

 

[Ketchum]

It was a big event though. There was really zero doubt he was going to whip Rory's ass yesterday. One guy is rock solid from chest up. The other guy is Rory. Koepka is easily the closest we've seen to Tiger's prime in terms of when the chips are down. Until further notice, he is easily the favorite for any major. At this point it would be rather stunning if he doesn't win the Fed Ex cup. Already has POY wrapped up.

He's who we thought Jordan was going to be.

 

[Ketchum]

True Romance is a top 5 movie of mine. You picked the best clip too. Good stuff, Ketch. My Monday is off to a great start.

Glad I could contribute. I'm not sure I've ever done a top 10 with less nit-picking.

 

[RLong68]

You can do that every single year in every program. The key is to get those 10-12 to transfer and not the ones you want to stick around.

Yep. And I have zero doubt the rather large majority of the attrition will continue to be the ones the needed to be culled.

 

[RLong68]

He's who we thought Jordan was going to be.

Very valid point. 24 months ago the edge I gave to JS over the other current "flavors" such as DJ, JT and Rory was his Tiger-like fire he had. Unfortunately, and there were suspicions even then, that "fire" was too often loss of his emotions and inability. But Brooks is like that great white shark that just calmly swims around before he needs to attack. It also helps that his game, literally, is far superior overall than Spieth's.

 

[utguz]

Whatever happened to the NCAA attempting to stop attrition with grad rates and penalties for not reaching them? The portal will blow that away.

 

[Ketchum]

Very valid point. 24 months ago the edge I gave to JS over the other current "flavors" such as DJ, JT and Rory was his Tiger-like fire he had. Unfortunately, and there were suspicions even then, that "fire" was too often loss of his emotions and inability. But Brooks is like that great white shark that just calmly swims around before he needs to attack. It also helps that his game, literally, is far superior overall than Spieth's.

Great characterization of Brooks.

 

[Ketchum]

Whatever happened to the NCAA attempting to stop attrition with grad rates and penalties for not reaching them? The portal will blow that away.

The NCAA is worthless.

 

[RLong68]

Very valid point. 24 months ago the edge I gave to JS over the other current "flavors" such as DJ, JT and Rory was his Tiger-like fire he had. Unfortunately, and there were suspicions even then, that "fire" was too often loss of his emotions and inability. But Brooks is like that great white shark that just calmly swims around before he needs to attack. It also helps that his game, literally, is far superior overall than Spieth's.

Great characterization of Brooks.

 

[utguz]

The NCAA is worthless.

Understatement.

 

[utguz]

Smith and Whittington could transform this team if they come in as advertised. They seem very ready. More that most freshmen. So excited for what this year could bring. So miss UT being this.

 

[Ketchum]

Smith and Whittington could transform this team if they come in as advertised. They seem very ready. More that most freshmen. So excited for what this year could bring. So miss UT being this.

Whittington could make all the worrying about running back in this class a moot point.

 

[Dualthreat]

With the scholarship number for the Longhorns sitting at 79 going into the season, Texas can take 18 kids in the 2020 class without even having to count on the attrition to get to 85, which means that if the Longhorns hit their average levels of attrition, they'll have more than enough numbers to allow for a 25-man class.

Exactly what I post (and some view with skepticism). Pretty much every year Texas can take 25. It includes attrition but the rate is pretty consistent. IMO, as I understand it.

Hook'em Horns!

Thanks for your post on this topic.

 

[mundster]

Nothing from django unchained? Loved it when Denzel blew up Tarantino.

 

[BRHornz]

Great read, as always. Can feel the energy needle moving.

Hook 'em!!!

 

[Ketchum]

Exactly what I post (and some view with skepticism). Pretty much every year Texas can take 25. It includes attrition but the rate is pretty consistent. IMO, as I understand it.

Hook'em Horns!

Thanks for your post on this topic.

Glad I could do something insightful this week.

 

[Ketchum]

Great read, as always. Can feel the energy needle moving.

Hook 'em!!!

Gracias. Love hearing that from my 2001 OB family members!

 

[Buda Horn]

I can't believe Rivals didn't have Kyler Murray ranked as a 5*. Maybe he didn't have prototypical size, but it's not like they had a lack of film of him destroying the highest levels of Texas high school football.

 

[Ketchum]

I can't believe Rivals didn't have Kyler Murray ranked as a 5*. Maybe he didn't have prototypical size, but it's not like they had a lack of film of him destroying the highest levels of Texas high school football.

Maybe the worst ranking in Texas among high profile guys of the last half-decade. I have to raise my hand as well. I wasn't convinced he was a five star.

 

[CenTex Horn]

Mostly good stuff this weekend, Ge○ff.
Although some of it wss a bit sketchy, Ketchy.

 

[Buda Horn]

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Maybe the worst ranking in Texas among high profile guys of the last half-decade. I have to raise my hand as well. I wasn't convinced he was a five star.

I remember you referring to him as Johnny Manziel with a jet-pack, after Manziel won the Heisman. That sounds like a 5 star to me.

 

[Ketchum]

I remember you referring to him as Johnny Manziel with a jet-pack, after Manziel won the Heisman. That sounds like a 5 star to me.

Yeah, but he was tiny. He was a unicorn in every way a guy could be a unicorn (inclusing some questionable things), but at the end of the day I couldn't rate a guy as a five-star that came in such a tiny package. Hell, I thought his shitty attitude would be his downfall as well.

 

[longhornmjc]

great read & i loved those clips. The true romance clip was my favorite & like the poster said earlier no way you can get that stuff in a move today the PC crowd would rip it to pieces & you would have protests at every theater.