Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Admitting I'm wrong isn't so hard after all...)
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Yes.
That's not to say he's the best player, but I view the defensive line as a massive need.
@Ketchum Where did you have Kyler Murray rated? I agreed with Farrell's take even after seeing him win three state championships at JerryWorld. Clearly, we were wrong
Farrell’s take: Murray transferred as well, but he’s clearly - and I mean clearly - the best quarterback of the group, by far. So why wasn’t he a five-star and ranked higher? You can blame me if you want. I felt he was too small after seeing him at Under Armour week, where he struggled with accuracy. He could run, there was no doubt about that, but he struggled against the best competition seeing downfield and I felt he would not translate to the NFL level. Shows how much I know.
https://n.rivals.com/news/ranking-with-the-stars-kyler-murray
Farrell’s take: Murray transferred as well, but he’s clearly - and I mean clearly - the best quarterback of the group, by far. So why wasn’t he a five-star and ranked higher? You can blame me if you want. I felt he was too small after seeing him at Under Armour week, where he struggled with accuracy. He could run, there was no doubt about that, but he struggled against the best competition seeing downfield and I felt he would not translate to the NFL level. Shows how much I know.
https://n.rivals.com/news/ranking-with-the-stars-kyler-murray
I think most know that this is not only a) expected but b) a very good thing. The OVERWHELMING number of transfers are guys that simply never panned out nor are expected to contribute.
I think that's been the case in the last few years, but that hasn't been the case historically.
To hammer home my point in my previous reply, I've highlighted the guys who legitimately could be described as contributors. TEN of 67. In other words, a LOT of dead weight cut loose.
We discussed this in another thread, but worth repeating that we know 2021 won't be small class. If for some reason it somehow is than given the in-state depth of '21's talent pool that will have been a HUGE mistake on Herman's part. But given how quickly we've gotten out of the box, there literally is ZERO indication the staff is going to be conservative on class size.
It's misguided to only highlight the "contributors", while not highlighting the guys that absolutely had the talent to be significant ones with added development. For instance, you highlighted two guys alone in 2014 that wouldn't have been as good as some others in that same year had they developed properly.
Kendall Sanders, as an example.
Fair enough. That leaves 56 other guys. How many of those types are in there? History has shown few went on to do anything of substance elsewhere:
Roberson
Harrison
Of the most recent guys, you have Bru and Rising as the only real possibilities that will cause us any sort of "regret." So I wasn't THAT misguided.
I think they are just doing that to create the idea that there's a run on a shortage of spots. We've seen the tactic a lot over the years.
I would disagree. I'm sure there are a handful of names here or there, but even in the Mack era I don't exactly thinking too many times "dang, I wish he had stayed."
I think the number is higher than you're conceding, but I think the good news for Herman is that he's losing guys that I wouldn't include in the massive upside department.Fair enough. That leaves 56 other guys. How many of those types are in there? History has shown few went on to do anything of substance elsewhere:
Roberson
Harrison
Of the most recent guys, you have Bru and Rising as the only real possibilities that will cause us any sort of "regret." So I wasn't THAT misguided.
The program has also stopped losing guys to drugs, arrests and dumb shit for the most part.
Man, that Tarantino list reminds me of just how many great, great scenes there have been in his movies. There are many scenes from Django that could be included as well.
It was a big event though. There was really zero doubt he was going to whip Rory's ass yesterday. One guy is rock solid from chest up. The other guy is Rory. Koepka is easily the closest we've seen to Tiger's prime in terms of when the chips are down. Until further notice, he is easily the favorite for any major. At this point it would be rather stunning if he doesn't win the Fed Ex cup. Already has POY wrapped up.
Attrition occurs for 3 reasons: injuries; dismissals; and transfers. Injuries are an inevitable part of football. Dismissals are because of a breach of discipline. The program experienced a number of dismissals under Strong and Herman because Club Mack's look-the-other-way drug compliance was no longer tolerated. Tranfers occur because a player either knows he's about to be dismissed or because he believes his path to playing time is blocked by talent above him on the roster. The increase of transfers for the latter reason is a sign of important progress in building a championship program.
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True Romance is a top 5 movie of mine. You picked the best clip too. Good stuff, Ketch. My Monday is off to a great start.
You can do that every single year in every program. The key is to get those 10-12 to transfer and not the ones you want to stick around.
Glad I could contribute. I'm not sure I've ever done a top 10 with less nit-picking.
Yep. And I have zero doubt the rather large majority of the attrition will continue to be the ones the needed to be culled.
Very valid point. 24 months ago the edge I gave to JS over the other current "flavors" such as DJ, JT and Rory was his Tiger-like fire he had. Unfortunately, and there were suspicions even then, that "fire" was too often loss of his emotions and inability. But Brooks is like that great white shark that just calmly swims around before he needs to attack. It also helps that his game, literally, is far superior overall than Spieth's.
