Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Heads need to roll in Waco)
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Just because you believe that to be so, doesn't make it automatically so. It was a cumulative thing with him. Enough was enough IMO.
You're his boy. Of course you feel otherwise.
1.) Writing about a sexual assault situation and turning it into a personal crusade are different things. I've already said that I would expect you to write something on the Baylor situation. It's a big deal. The entire sports world is commenting on it. What I wouldn't expect is the crusade it's become when this has absolutely nothing to do with you. I wouldn't expect the Twitter battles you and your staff are trying to drum up. For God's sake, one of your staffers is tweeting Gloria Allred trying to get some engagement. The over the top reaction you've had to this particular situation and to Art Briles, personally, is all I'm talking about. It's strange to me and several others.
You can say it's all me not liking you for whatever reason. My liking you or not (I don't even know you) has no bearing on what I've been posting. You can accept that or brush it all off as just a guy being mean to you. You don't have to agree with me. You don't even have to understand where I'm coming from. Thank you for allowing me to continue posting, however.
2.) Help me out there. If anything, it appears the Lane College situation is starting out worse than the Baylor situation started. Of course, that's just based upon what is known right now. If your purpose is to protect women everywhere, then this matters to you. This is worthy of your attention. This is worthy of your tweets. You might actually be able to be a part of preventing something before it ever happens.
3.) Derrick Burroughs is the head coach and AD of Lane College. I'm not sure what the first part of your #3 meant.
I was just chillin' and then was all "hey, what's up, hello?!?".
I agree. The problem is "How?". These characteristics are passed down from generation to generation. I was taught to be a racist by the things my parents said and did. (I learned in college how wrong that attitude is.) It is extremely difficult for someone to accept that the people that they love the most in the world have these faults. Many people never do. Something as innocent as "Real men don't cry." has been taught for generations and, as this thread has illustrated, still exist. When the pain is extreme, all people cry. Real question - how many of you "real men" can honestly say that they were able to watch the 911 events without crying about the tragedy? Of those who didn't, how many times did you see your father or grandfather cry?
Profound behavioral changes take generations. In the mean time our only recourse is punishing the offenders and the judicial and penal systems are a farce (6 months for rape). The jails are typically overcrowded and felons are routinely released early to make room for worse felons. More prisons are needed so that felons stay in jail but they cost money and the public usually doesn't want the higher taxes required to build them. (Part of this resistance is probably due to the money that is apportioned into the wallets of the politicians.) Until the judicial system starts really heavily punishing offenders and the penal system actually punishes their charges, nothing will change.
Sorry for the rant. I won't live long enough to see much change. I doubt that my children will. I hope and pray that my grand kids live in a better world and until society changes priorities, I'm not optimistic.
i'll help you out here, a) because you asked and b) because you seem incapable or unwilling to utilize any form of critical thinking.
the lane college incident is awful, and i feel like that player should not be allowed on the field until the legal process is adjudicated.
that being said, the majority of the ire re: the baylor situation is directed at:
- baylor's shoddy investigation into the rape, and subsequent no punishment (and in effect, punishing the victim)
- briles' allowing the kid to remain on the team after he was indicted for rape (with full knowledge of violent past)...with zero punishment. ie allowing the kid to practice with the team, workout, etc. also, it seems as though briles' lied about what he knew when the player transferred to baylor.
anyways, that means that most people are angry at baylor due to their mishandling and coverup of the rape, and the protection of the accused. they want to punish baylor for their prior bad acts, and they want baylor investigated.
lane college has openly admitted to giving this kid another chance while the legal process is moving forward. i do not agree with it, and it may end up with another college rape. but the two situations could not be more different from each other.
This is pretty much how I feel. By using the "I cried" story, which I believe is more likely than not a fabrication, Ketch was able to make it all about him. Look at me. I'm Martin Luther Caesar Chavez B. Anthony, and I deserve a statue and streets named after me, too.
Just how it comes across to me, narcissistic, self-important, and self-serving. Not genuine.
And I don't have an issue with guys crying. I cry all the time watching movies. In about 8 scenes in Braveheart. But who just thinks back about a 5 year old news story and bursts into sobbing tears out of the blue? I find it to be an unlikely and convenient story. Of course, there's no way to prove or disprove it, and that's the beauty of it for Ketch. Nobody ever said he wasn't shrewd. He would make a great politician.
Journalists take on personal crusades to achieve justice quite regularly. Bill O'Reilly did it to pass Jessica's Law and is doing it now to pass Kates' Law. Ketch's emphasis on the Baylor situation is probably because it is fresh, at a high profile place and down the road. I don't think he gives a rat's ass about Briles' won-loss record against us.
Cute. Duck the points made and the questions raised and instead, misdirect with insults while pretending you don't understand. Well, at least I hope you're pretending. Because if you don't understand, then an exchange is pointless.
Reply if you want. Boredom has set in. I've lost interest in you.
You seem to be on quite the crusade yourself. But I assume you think that's okay because, you know, it's you. Only difference is that your crusade is pretty much pointless as far as I can tell.
I have waited a few days to ask this.
Serious question. Have you reached out or sent anyone to Washington to try and speak directly with Chris Peterson ? Have you filed any paperwork requesting all the internal Boise State athletic Dept. emails pertaining to this ? Also is it not a Title 9 violation if Boise knew Sam had hit or chocked his girlfriend and did not document the abuse ( hitting and chocking her) . Also is it not a Title 9 violation to not report this abuse ( hitting and chocking her ) to the police ?
Let's not act like you're some big bad a$$ with all of the maturity in the world. You just joined a thread on a message board to simply tell someone his thoughts were pointless. You added no value.
Look, I'm open-minded about changing my position, but I was not without justification IMO. I also understand your position.
Thank You, Geoff.
Hope your kids and Heather are well.
Being on a crusade is not, in and of itself, a bad thing. I genuinely don't like the dismissal of long-time posters that happen to disagree with the herd for simply disagreeing with the herd. If I had a crusade in this thread, it was to further that point. Pretty transparent, wouldn't you say?
As for the Baylor stuff, I simply disagree with a great many of you on where the facts, as we currently understand them, take me. I have no crusade there. I have no direct involvement in the situation and I'm not trying to insert myself into the situation either. I'm simply having discourse (respectfully, I might add) with those that choose to engage me. Why are we here if not for the discourse? If in the process of our back and forth, you find that you disagree with me, I have nothing but respect for your "right" to disagree as long as you aren't.....well....you know....a hyena.
As for the O-Bloods staff as it relates to the Baylor stuff, I question their sincerity on the topic for all the reasons I've already mentioned. In fact, a few others have also expressed similar sentiments. Surely I don't have to type the same things 4-5 times, right? If it's a matter of someone getting the last word and "winning the day", I'm fine with letting them or someone else having that. I thought we were still having good dialogue.
If any of that is unclear to you at this point, I'm not sure there's anything left for us to say to one another. Yes?
I wouldn't go so far as to say anyone fully understands @babyshoe's position on anything. He's a special guy.
Very possible...I just thought it was ironic that your buddy wanted to accuse Ketch of being on a crusade. Sorry if that hurt your feelings.
My feelings weren't hurt. It's impossible to hurt my feelings.
Demagogue
Someone who appeals to emotions and fears, oppose deliberation and advocate immediate action. They accuse moderate and thoughtful opponents of weakness.
Someone who appeals to emotions and fears, oppose deliberation and advocate immediate action. They accuse moderate and thoughtful opponents of weakness.
What makes something a personal crusade? If I tell you it was already a crusade of mine and that I've written about it numerous times and talked it about it on my radio show numerous times, when does it cross over into an area you believe becomes genuine? Your assertions paint me in the worst kind of light. It suggests I'm an opportunist and I somehow did this for motivations that are not pure to the conversation.
Look, I've dated women who have been sexually abused and assaulted. I have women in my direct family that have been abused and sexually assaulted.
I consider it a big deal, and yes, when the story is very close to home (I'm from Waco and grew up a Baylor fan. Also, a ton of my family including grandparents, dad and wife all went to Baylor), I'm going to focus on that more than situations I'm less familiar about.
You might not know me, but your comments in discussions towards me are almost always painted towards me ina negative light. In this exact moment you seem unwilling to pay attention to my history and the logical layers of the conversation and you seem to be challenging me to prove to you my sincerity.
As far as Derrick Burroughs is concerned, I have to admit I hadn't been completely caught up on that story, but yes, I'm appalled at the details after just looking at them. I also have written a lot about the Vandy case and simply forgot his exact connection to what happened there. I don't know how you let that kid into your program, even at little Lake College, under the circumstances, and I'd have serious questions for the coach, AD and president.
Just cancel. You clearly have a very low opinion about me.
I'll refrain from responding in full outside of that comment. Just cancel.
You literally have arms the size of blades of grass. You and what Army?
I have not. I have quite a bit on my schedule. Good questions, ones that definitely need to be answered.
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