Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend ("It's not even close")

[Ketchum]

Snoops Upside Ya Head was always my favorite Snoop song, but I bet only 5% of Snoop fans would agree with that.

You sure it's that high?

 

[Ketchum]

Then you must have known in 2020 that Herman would be replaced, and subsequently Herb Hand as well… because CJ’s growth and development correlates directly with the coaching from Sark and Flood’s development of him; Tope Imade and Denzel Okafor have said as much about Flood’s importance to their own development.

It’s just a shame both of those players didn’t have an extra season or two under Flood’s tutelage.

That being said I don’t doubt that you saw potential in Jones; a lot of us were hoping for him to take that next step. But… there was nothing to indicate that he would develop into an NFL draft pick/player with Hand at the helm. To say otherwise is a revisionist’s history.

I say this because I’m a huge fan of CJ’s; both as a player and certainly as a person. I wish him nothing but the best. The original indictment of CJ has nothing to do with potential, but instead that of Herman and his staff…

I just felt like there was NFL upside in him and that he was a young player developing.

 

[kenkam]

Can someone explain why we give all the OL $50k a year? That’s $200k over 4 years to those that never play a down. I see why they don’t leave when they’re getting paid and not on the two deep.

The NIL should be about attracting the top talent versus paying for participation. Then we could pay Fasusi and others versus losing them.

Texas does not do the "pancake factory" any longer. It ended

 

[KanyeTwitty]

To be fair, it was the afternoon.

Doesn’t matter imo. I would not be concerned with a reporters job status if I’m a head coach at a blue blood and I play another blue blood the next day. It just wouldn’t even be on my mind, but I’m also not a coach so.

 

[Ketchum]

According to your information, which I trust, is 4 signed, 0 successful.

But it's much more nuanced than that simple analysis.

Not really. Every statement I have made is factually correct.

He's a great coach. He develops NFL players. He simply never done it with elite guys. Joe Wickline was a guy that struggled with elite recruits and did better with a different profile. Is that Bill B? I'm not saying it is, but there's no record of success there with elite guys. Period.

You can argue that until you are blue in the face, but you can't cite an example that proves me wrong. You can just try to change the terms of the conversation.

 

[Ketchum]

Can someone explain why we give all the OL $50k a year? That’s $200k over 4 years to those that never play a down. I see why they don’t leave when they’re getting paid and not on the two deep.

The NIL should be about attracting the top talent versus paying for participation. Then we could pay Fasusi and others versus losing them.

It's becoming an outdated deal and there's a reason why it has never been repeated at another position.

 

[Ketchum]

Doesn’t matter imo. I would not be concerned with a reporters job status if I’m a head coach at a blue blood and I play another blue blood the next day. It just wouldn’t even be on my mind, but I’m also not a coach so.

🤷‍♂️

 

[RLong68]

Maybe I’m a glass-half-full guy… but I’m going to lean towards a really solid, if not stellar defense by game 4 (barring injuries 🤞🏻)

While Christian Jones ended last year being much better than we all thought… a year a seasoning (the exact same OL) while adding Cam Williams, should coalesce this group into a formidable OL.

Not sure about the “we” part related to Jones.

 

[94Sip]

All these people that get hung up on words about recruiting or "Its Austin" - whatevs. We are on a site that is reporting on the goings on of kids, barely old enough to drink legally.

This site is the best. I had to take a break after the pandemic, but this is where it is at. I can't NOT come to this everyday.

Sometimes, the offseason is better than in-season.

If I had one wish, it would be to bring back some posters, like the guy who did the "around the Big12 in gifs" on Sundays. Those were some of the things that I HAD TO READ on Sundays.

 

[longhornms]

It's becoming an outdated deal and there's a reason why it has never been repeated at another position.

Got it. I hadn’t seen anything about it lately but thankfully it ended. At least they figured it out that is was money not well spent.

 

[ARD438]

If you pay an OT close to a million dollars a year but only has one All American year his 3rd season and then leaves to the NFL as a first rounder would that warrant the million dollars each year?

 

[longhornms]

If you pay an OT close to a million dollars a year but only has one All American year his 3rd season and then leaves to the NFL as a first rounder would that warrant the million dollars each year?

Not in my opinion. You could get any transfer you want that can start day one for the same million. I think Fasusi would start year two but if you apply a 50% hit ratio then maybe not. Either Goosby, Baker, or Fasusi is odd man out at OT.

 

[Ketchum]

If you pay an OT close to a million dollars a year but only has one All American year his 3rd season and then leaves to the NFL as a first rounder would that warrant the million dollars each year?

That's a question worth asking and at least giving some consideration to.

 

[RLong68]

It's becoming an outdated deal and there's a reason why it has never been repeated at another position.

If we’re keeping it real it was odd from the get go

 

[RLong68]

If you pay an OT close to a million dollars a year but only has one All American year his 3rd season and then leaves to the NFL as a first rounder would that warrant the million dollars each year?

Not everyone can be an All American. FWIW I doubt an OT who makes AA year 3 was somehow non-productive in years 1 and certainly 2

 

[ARD438]

Not everyone can be an All American. FWIW I doubt an OT who makes AA year 3 was somehow non-productive in years 1 and certainly 2

Cam Williams, might be one this year, Johnathon Brooks would have been an AA without the injury but he didn't have the price tag we are talking about. I'm sure there are more year 3 first time all-americans each year that did not start but had a blow out type season.

 

[RLong68]

Until I saw documentary Summer of Soul I never knew Marilyn McCoo was in 5th Dimension

 

[RLong68]

Cam Williams, might be one this year, Johnathon Brooks would have been an AA without the injury but he didn't have the price tag we are talking about. I'm sure there are more year 3 first time all-americans each year that did not start but had a blow out type season.

Clearly Brooks was a unique situation. In this exercise all that will be in your favors are mostly exceptions. And again, being “productive” can mean a number of things. I think it’s clear JB was productive in working his ass off quietly while waiting his turn. Williams has been productive doing the same.

 

[Ketchum]

If we’re keeping it real it was odd from the get go

It was a desperate plea for OL in the 2022 class.

 

[Adamfromaustin]

@Ketchum B/S J Blue may be as fast as J Charles.

(Please don’t hate me if this is somehow sacrilegious, he was the 4 the fastest player in college football, and by far the fastest running back in the sport last year)

 

[longhornms]

@Ketchum B/S J Blue may be as fast as J Charles.

(Please don’t hate me if this is somehow sacrilegious, he was the 4 the fastest player in college football, and by far the fastest running back in the sport last year)

How do you know he was the 4th fastest last year? What was the measurement? MPH?

 

[Ketchum]

@Ketchum B/S J Blue may be as fast as J Charles.

(Please don’t hate me if this is somehow sacrilegious, he was the 4 the fastest player in college football, and by far the fastest running back in the sport last year)

sell

 

[know it all2]

I was just making a pun with your name.

lol got that. Was talking about the prompt for #1. Will have to catch up.

 

[Sunny Nelson]

Been watching OB on youtube for a few years, and finally decided to join the real OB community a couple weeks ago. Great reporting by all. Came for the Longhorn football content, stayed for the Snoopaloop thoughts. Great stuff Ketch.

Ha! Glad you’re here! Welcome. 🤘🏼

 

[RLong68]

sell

And obviously that says more about Charles’ speed than Blue. Blue’s the most explosive back we’ve had since, well, Charles. If he gets just 200 rushes, he’ll be touching 1200 yds.

 

[Denz Washington]

Not really. Every statement I have made is factually correct.

He's a great coach. He develops NFL players. He simply never done it with elite guys. Joe Wickline was a guy that struggled with elite recruits and did better with a different profile. Is that Bill B? I'm not saying it is, but there's no record of success there with elite guys. Period.

You can argue that until you are blue in the face, but you can't cite an example that proves me wrong. You can just try to change the terms of the conversation.

Right, it's factually correct. But that's about it. It's a very simple view.

 

[RLong68]

My second thought turned to Johnathan Gray. Just like Baxter, the former five-star running back averaged 4.7 yards per carry as a true freshman. Just like Baxter, Gray's sophomore season was supposed to be his breakthrough and it was in a way, as he was well on his way to a 1,000+ yard rushing season in 2013 when an achilles tendon tear ended his campaign and changed his career forever more.

If we’re keeping it real, even pre-injury Gray had shown to not be elite.

 

[RLong68]

If I'm Texas, this has to be a piece of my sales pitch. Do you want to play for a guy that historically turns 5-stars into first-round picks or do you want to take a chance on a guy that has never done it.

Not even once.

That's not a subjective take. Those are literally the facts.

JMO but if that’s our “best pitch” then good luck with that.

 

[Ketchum]

Right, it's factually correct. But that's about it.

FIFY

Yup, that's about it.

 

[Dal_Horn]

In my opinion, the most memorable moment of Mason Walter’s career was when he tried to talk shit to Malcom Brown when Brown was a freshman and Brown basically beat his ass. @Ketchum do I have my facts right? It’s been a while.

 

[Ketchum]

In my opinion, the most memorable moment of Mason Walter’s career was when he tried to talk shit to Malcom Brown when Brown was a freshman and Brown basically beat his ass. @Ketchum do I have my facts right? It’s been a while.

I forgot about that.