Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (The worm sure does turn fast these days...)

[FrancoBevo]

These coaches love to recruit. It is going to test their skill set.

well, we know the season sure did test their coaching skills -

 

[tzrider]

Fran was a bigger hire than Jimbo. Guy was widely considered the hottest young coach at the time, and they stole him from Bama. He was their Herman, though probably a bigger hire than Herman. Jimbo is a coach in his 50's, coming off a 5 win season, leaving a school who really made no effort to keep him. Jimbo may have success at aggy, but really, even if he matches what Sumlin did, which is a longshot, considering Sumlin was their 2nd most successful coach in the history of the program, then he is considered a failure.

Strong was a hot young coach.

I agree about Sumlin. I think he did a good job for them. I don’t know that Fisher will do better.

I think FSU made tremendous effort to keep Fisher. They just got tired of him threatening to leave three years in a row. I also think he wanted to move. His wife made a fool of him in Tallahassee

 

[dkrieger]

Chances on Brewster?

Slim and none. Herman is to arrogant to hire someone like Brew. It is all a mute point since I believe Fisher brings him to Aggy along with keeping Price which will give them 2 recruiters on staff better than any we currently have. Brewster and Price working on Coburn=flip to Aggy

 

[platshaw7410]

I have this eerie feeling that Herman never gets over the hump in Austin, but moves on to another program to take them to the next level. Just a feeling since we're snake bitten.

Certainly wouldn’t be the first coach where that happened.

 

[CPHornfan]

BUY or SELL: Baker is a better college QB than Colt?

(Buy) This conversation will be a moot point if Oklahoma wins a national title, but the reality is that when you look at the senior seasons for both players, Baker was light years better than Colt and over the course of his entire Oklahoma career, his quarterback rating is a full 35 points higher. Thirty-five.

I'll duck now.

No reason to duck...that was a truthful statement.

 

[Juarez Your Problem]

I'm not giving him a pass. I'm saying it greatly impacted what happened this season.

You guys comparing him to Mack are just hoping.

C'mon Ketch you know OB doesn't like the hard truth. Feed us sunshine so we can be happy then complain why you fed us sunshine to realize the team sucks.

You can't win here.

 

[McGuapo]

well, of course we all change, but I can assure you that I'm still fun.

No you’re not. I haven’t seen you since....the McGregor fight?

 

[CPHornfan]

* Mike Zimmer is one hell of a coach. He should be coaching America's Team, not ol' Red Ball.

Pretty sure the Packers are already set with their coaches and no changes would be made.

 

[satterwm]

a. I don't believe Herman is a fan of his in general.I don't believe he ended his GA thinking to himself, "I hope one day I'm in a position to work with that guy, again!"
b. He already had his staff in mind last year.
c. Didn't like the way Brewster worked public channels to throw his name into the mix for a job he wasn't under consideration for.

Makes sense, especially (c), I would think.

 

[cypress011]

Going to have to agree to disagree about the Jimbo hire.

Guy inherited a program in great shape from Bowden, had a couple of great recruiting classes and one MNC with a Heisman QB. That kid was a frosh so i's not like Jimbo's coaching staff made him great or anything. Now A&M is betting $75mil that a guy who wore out his welcome in Tallahassee (and left the program in worse shape than he inherited it) will make them a legit contender in the West. It's a huge gamble and I am not buying it.

I get that it's a big name hire, but I don't see how he's going to get them above the middle of the pack in that division, much less the SEC, and if Herman takes care of business we should be contending for conference championships very soon.

FSU wasn’t in great shape when he took over. It was on a significant downward trend

 

[fern]

Forgive me, I'm not sure I understand the question. Roster of players?

TH seemed to have confidence that the 2017 roster was a 8-9 win team. Injuries happened on the O-line that change everything I understand. Still, this team did not perform as well as we all thought it should. Will he be more realistic with his 2018 expectations considering what he has to work with?

 

[MB-HORNS]

AGREE!!!. A&M loses 5 games next year--minimum.

The bigger question is how many do the Horns lose?

 

[Baguette]

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Not quite: 2013, 2015.

We played smash mouth football in 15 vs OU and literally ran over them {313 rushing yards to their 67. We also sacked Mayfeild's ass 7 times}. By the end, OU players were crying for their Mamas. Hook'em!

 

[satterwm]

Oh come now, we give Herman shit for being an offensive Guru and failing this year but give Fisher a pass on a QB injury? Fisher doesn’t even have an OC to pass the blame to. Lol, how many QB’s did Sumlin play? 3? One of those great coaches listed above won a national championship with 3 different starting QB’s.

Who has the best West Coast/Pro-Style offense that lives off of the kids coming out of high school in the state of Texas?

You can out talent people and win 10 games a year in the ACC. He gets credit for getting it done early and for beating Michigan in the Orange.. but I’m not overlooking that he got the brakes beat off of him by Oregon and Houston in the two previous years.

Jimbo was trending down. He bolted.

Yep, and the injured qb explanation for a bad season is problematic. If you're gonna argue that, you probably have to conclude that Winston is the sole reason for Fisher's success in the first place. Would make him a fragile hire at best.

 

[Cinco Ranch Horn]

@Ketchum I think Calallen takes down McCallum this weekend.

 

[RLong68]

The hire of Jimbo Fisher in College Station is an absolute game-changer and represents the single most dynamic hire that any school in this state has probably ever made.

It pales to aggy hiring Jackie 35 years ago. That set college football on its ear and was the first of the mega-contracts that HCs are now afforded.

 

[matamoroshorn]

Disappointed in your response, disagree if it means a natty for the Big 12

I hope they curb stomp Georgia and choke in the final moments of the NC game.

 

[RLong68]

@Ketchum I think Calallen takes down McCallum this weekend.

Aggy Junior probably goes in dry on McCallum.

 

[Cure4BizCancer]

Strong was a hot young coach.

I agree about Sumlin. I think he did a good job for them. I don’t know that Fisher will do better.

I think FSU made tremendous effort to keep Fisher. They just got tired of him threatening to leave three years in a row. I also think he wanted to move. His wife made a fool of him in Tallahassee

I agree with everything in your post but CS being a young coach. His birthday is in 1960. He had a great pedigree as a DC, had the opportunity to learn under great HC's, and took a demoralized Louisville team back to winning with a Heiman caliber QB.

But, here, he was the worst coach in history. Go figure. In spite of the indoctrination most of the younger posters have absorbed, age is not the telling attribute to judge success, either good or bad.

 

[Cure4BizCancer]

I hope they curb stomp Georgia and choke in the final moments of the NC game.

Against Clemson.

 

[tzrider]

I agree with everything in your post but CS being a young coach. His birthday is in 1960. He had a great pedigree as a DC, had the opportunity to learn under great HC's, and took a demoralized Louisville team back to winning with a Heiman caliber QB.

But, here, he was the worst coach in history. Go figure. In spite of the indoctrination most of the younger posters have absorbed, age is not the telling attribute to judge success, either good or bad.

I was born in 1960. Of course he is young.

 

[collinhookem18]

Disappointed in your response, disagree if it means a natty for the Big 12

good gawd a conference fanboy, make sure the door doesn't hit you on the way out

 

[CPHornfan]

AGREE!!!. A&M loses 5 games next year--minimum.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-18/2018-texas-am-aggies-football-schedule.php

vs

http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/245/texas-aggies

Looking at the 2018 vs 2017 schedules, looks like the 2018 schedule is a lot tougher than 2017's. If Fisher can improve on the 2017 record, then he has accomplished something.

 

[TexasLawnghorn]

* Mike Zimmer is one hell of a coach. He should be coaching America's Team, not ol' Red Ball.

It would crush you to know how close this was to happening.

 

[TheAngryHammer]

a. Yes, I believe he is, although very quietly.
b. I don't know about home run, but he'd be an excellent hire. I don't know that splashy, home run AD hires really exist.

Is it just me, or should the AD at the University of Friggin' Texas be the guy everyone wants running their AD? Does it just show our organizational ineptitude when we never seem to have that guy? Was Deloss ever that guy?

We've gone from a pariah, to a glorified booster buddy, to hoping we get a guy from a mid-major school.

Have we ever acted like the University of Texas in athletics?

 

[utguz]

Fran was a bigger hire than Jimbo. Guy was widely considered the hottest young coach at the time, and they stole him from Bama. He was their Herman, though probably a bigger hire than Herman. Jimbo is a coach in his 50's, coming off a 5 win season, leaving a school who really made no effort to keep him. Jimbo may have success at aggy, but really, even if he matches what Sumlin did, which is a longshot, considering Sumlin was their 2nd most successful coach in the history of the program, then he is considered a failure.

That was big and scary. From Bama. Really surprised at the outcome.

 

[Ketchum]

Can you expand this with a little explanation. Understood if you don’t want to because of the cliff jumping that will occur.

I just didn't see anything this season once the season started that screamed it.

 

[Ketchum]

Fran was a bigger hire than Jimbo.

crazy talk

 

[Ketchum]

I don't see how Fisher's situation is much different at all than Mack's. Enlighten me. Both resurrected top flight programs from the dumps, both recruited lights out but were questioned as X's and O's guys, both had a bunch of 10 win seasons (though Mack had more), both won a NC, both won some big bowls, and both were ultimately run out of town because of a combination of bad performance on the field and burnt bridges within the program. You're choosing to ignore the similarities because you've always had a hard on for Jimbo. I'm simply saying if anyone would've committed $75MM to Mack in 2014, we would have all thought they were out of their minds.

I don't have a hard-on for Jimbo. lulz

The fact that Jimbo didn't disappear from coaching but went and took a harder job in the SEC West is an indication the two aren't the same...

 

[Pho King Master]

crazy talk

Negative. We can of course try and pretend with hindsight that wasn't an absolute homerun of a hire now, but it was.

Go back and look at the board when they hired Fran and look at the board now. Many more people were concerned about that hire, as was I.

 

[Keith_Uchima]

No. 10 – And Finally …

The dream continues. Nothing but love for the best AISD of the last decade and the best MAC squad in school history.
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Does it count if no one associated with MAC is there to see it?

 

[BK817]

I hope they curb stomp Georgia and choke in the final moments of the NC game.

I’m cool with that

 

[cooleyo]

No. 10 – And Finally …

The dream continues. Nothing but love for the best AISD of the last decade and the best MAC squad in school history.

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Does it count if no one associated with MAC is there to see it?[/QUOTE]

What does this mean? Were there not many McCallum fans at the Alamodome last weekend? I knew numerous people who went. I assume you were there as well. Are you predicting sparse attendance this coming weekend too? What's the story?

 

[Ketchum]

No reason to duck...that was a truthful statement.

I can't believe no one has argued that point.

 

[I'm_smarter_then_you]

Ketch, it's pretty clear you're not a fan of either Herman or Texas. Have you thought about covering aggy or ou? I'm sure they'd take you.