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Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (About the quarterbacks... again)

Casey played against better teams than Hudson, and he still has better stats year to date than Hudson.

Casey threw 5 touchdown passes and had a career day against a top 5 program and rival.

Hudson Card folded against Arky, who at last check isn’t even a top team in the SEC West.

Apples and oranges, Anwar is correct here. Ketchum is the one stirring up controversies by not addressing why the team has blown double digit leads in the 4th quarter in back to back weeks against top 10 teams.
Do you think OSU would have won on the road at Arkansas? I personally don't after watching OSU on Sat.

Did Card play worse at Ark than Casey did this past Sat at home against OSU? Again i don't think so.

Hell, Not sure either is the answer right now.
 
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Your head is buried in the sand. Casey was terrible against TCU, bad in the second half of OU, and terrible against Oklahoma state. That’s all there really is to it.

What has card done? I don’t know, because we haven’t seen him. He certainly can’t be worse than Casey has been.
We have seen enough through 6 quarters of football. He can get a second shot if Casey gets injured.

Take a look at Bijan’s rushing numbers when Card started vs. When Casey started.

Then take a look at Casey’s numbers against OU vs every other quarterback all time.

That alone is enough to give Casey a break on dips against TCU on the road and second top 10 team in back to back weeks.

Hudson Card will get another shot eventually, but let’s stop pretending like he’s going to upgrade the offense this season.
 
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So why Hudson Card?

We play 2 top 10 teams in back to back weeks and you’re calling out Casey’s performance dips? Isn’t that sort of expected?

What has changed with Hudson Card that you think we should put him back in at quarterback if Casey struggles against Baylor? Didn’t Iowa St’s senior quarterback also struggle against Baylor?

If I’m following your logic, once we build a large lead at halftime against Baylor, and if Casey struggles in the 3rd quarter again, you’re saying to put in Hudson Card at quarterback because that will resolve Texas blowing a double digit lead in the 4th quarter again? Please elaborate on that 🤣🤣

a. Because when your starting quarterback has a string of three straight games where he's really poor for an entire half of football, it's probably time to at least consider the other option that the head coach believed for 6 months was superior.

b. I don't know if anything has changed with Card. That's part of the finding out process that still exists.

c. This is silly.

"If I’m following your logic, once we build a large lead at halftime against Baylor, and if Casey struggles in the 3rd quarter again, you’re saying to put in Hudson Card at quarterback because that will resolve Texas blowing a double digit lead in the 4th quarter again? Please elaborate on that 🤣🤣"

What I'm saying is that if Casey struggles against Baylor for an entire half of football to the point that the passing game is potentially going to cost the team a win, a change at least needs to be on the table.

Same thing I would say about Hudson if he was consistently struggling in games for long stretches.
 
Casey played against better teams than Hudson, and he still has better stats year to date than Hudson.

Casey threw 5 touchdown passes and had a career day against a top 5 program and rival.

Hudson Card folded against Arky, who at last check isn’t even a top team in the SEC West.

Apples and oranges, Anwar is correct here. Ketchum is the one stirring up controversies by not addressing why the team has blown double digit leads in the 4th quarter in back to back weeks against top 10 teams.
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Totally agree- And Card actually played a near perfect game against ULL. You develop the guy with the higher ceiling. That’s why he was named starter to begin with. If people hold the Arky game against Card, then they also need to hold the TCU, OK State games against Thompson. Starting to believe the two quarters against Oklahoma was a total outlier. And you can essentially throw away Casey’s Rice and Tech performances.
It’s absolutely insane people see one half of Arkansas and are ready to throw in the towel on a freshman but a 4th year guy has 2 absolute disasters in 3 games, and nobody sees a problem. Prior to the season I thought we should start card exactly for your reasoning. He has a higher ceiling. Let him get some game reps and see what we’ve got. I think there’s a lot of truth to your posts about Casey giving sark an ultimatum.
 
Totally agree- And Card actually played a near perfect game against ULL. You develop the guy with the higher ceiling. That’s why he was named starter to begin with. If people hold the Arky game against Card, then they also need to hold the TCU, OK State games against Thompson. Starting to believe the two quarters against Oklahoma was a total outlier. And you can essentially throw away Casey’s Rice and Tech performances.
Really? Rewind the tape and watch the 1st quarter. He had a rating below 100 and missed several throws. Bijan took over that game against a team that doesn’t play in a power 5 conference.

Better yet compare Hudson Card’s numbers that game against Casey Thompson’s numbers in the OU game or the Tech game. It’s not even close who’s better…

Take Hudson Card’s numbers against Arky and compare that with Casey’s numbers against Oklahoma St and/ or TCU. Casey Thompson still has better numbers in that comparison.
 
It’s absolutely insane people see one half of Arkansas and are ready to throw in the towel on a freshman but a 4th year guy has 2 absolute disasters in 3 games, and nobody sees a problem. Prior to the season I thought we should start card exactly for your reasoning. He has a higher ceiling. Let him get some game reps and see what we’ve got. I think there’s a lot of truth to your posts about Casey giving sark an ultimatum.
No doubt! Crazy to think that a redshirt freshman may not be a finished product and needs reps to improve. Not have the cord yanked after a bad half on the road. Think of the steps Card could have taken had he been given an opportunity to correct his mistakes against Rice and Tech
 
We have seen enough through 6 quarters of football. He can get a second shot if Casey gets injured.

Take a look at Bijan’s rushing numbers when Card started vs. When Casey started.

Then take a look at Casey’s numbers against OU vs every other quarterback all time.

That alone is enough to give Casey a break on dips against TCU on the road and second top 10 team in back to back weeks.

Hudson Card will get another shot eventually, but let’s stop pretending like he’s going to upgrade the offense this season.
There is a lot to unpack here. We’ve seen enough through 6 quarters of card? Card played a near flawless game against ULL. He was bad against Arkansas. Compare that to Casey. Casey was bad against tcu, half of Ou and all of OSU. He was really good against rice and tech. Your comment about Bijan is irrelevant. We handed the ball of 35 times to Bijan against TCU because Casey couldn’t do anything. Against Ou he had a really good first half and disappeared in the second. Why won’t you acknowledge that?
 
There is a lot to unpack here. We’ve seen enough through 6 quarters of card? Card played a near flawless game against ULL. He was bad against Arkansas. Compare that to Casey. Casey was bad against tcu, half of Ou and all of OSU. He was really good against rice and tech. Your comment about Bijan is irrelevant. We handed the ball of 35 times to Bijan against TCU because Casey couldn’t do anything. Against Ou he had a really good first half and disappeared in the second. Why won’t you acknowledge that?
Hudson Card did not play a near flawless game against a non power 5 conference team.

His numbers in the 1st quarter probably rank among last in quarterbacks in their first quarter starts.

Hudson only threw for 2 touchdowns, and one of them was Bijan breaking tackles and taking it to the house

Bijan made Hudson look better than he is in that game. Reality struck in the next game.

Casey improved Bijan’s rushing numbers. Totally relevant when you consider the porous offensive line.
 
Confused isn’t the word I’d use. Uncomfortable/rushed and hurt come more to mind. He made some great reads at times (Bijan TD), made a nice couple of throws, but also sailed some balls and held onto it way too long at times also. It was not a good day for him and the playcalling in the 2nd half coupled with penalties and no line didn’t help. Casey is a temperamental thrower but I think he at least generally knows where to go with the ball. He definitely has some miscues too trying to force throws.
I am not sure what you call the interception in the 1rst half for the TD maybe not confused but he just locked in on the guy. He had a couple of those in the TCU but their DBs can't catch.

Not sure if he doesn't see the defense well or just locks in but he does it pretty regularly.

One of my biggest surprises about him is his lack of arm strength. I thought his arm was better. I keep seeing comments on here about his NFL prospects. I don't see it as his arm is below average for the NFL.
 
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Hudson Card did not play a near flawless game against a non power 5 conference team.

His numbers in the 1st quarter probably rank among last in quarterbacks in their first quarter starts.

Hudson only threw for 2 touchdowns, and one of them was Bijan breaking tackles and taking it to the house

Bijan made Hudson look better than he is in that game. Reality struck in the next game.

Casey improved Bijan’s rushing numbers. Totally relevant when you consider the porous offensive line.
Please go into detail how Casey is responsible for Bijan’s running numbers.
 
Hudson Card did not play a near flawless game against a non power 5 conference team.

His numbers in the 1st quarter probably rank among last in quarterbacks in their first quarter starts.

Hudson only threw for 2 touchdowns, and one of them was Bijan breaking tackles and taking it to the house

Bijan made Hudson look better than he is in that game. Reality struck in the next game.

Casey improved Bijan’s rushing numbers. Totally relevant when you consider the porous offensive line.
Lol.
 
As long as you are Mrs. Card 😉
Funny how you knew that meant you. Actually Ive never supported Card and have stated both are not good. But let’s not let facts get in the way of your nonsense. I just dont like the hypocrisy of posters about the two QBs
 
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I am not sure what you call the interception in the 1rst half for the TD maybe not confused but he just locked in on the guy. He had a couple of those in the TCU but their DBs can't catch.

Not sure if he doesn't see the defense well or just locks in but he does it pretty regularly.

One of my biggest surprises about him is his lack of arm strength. I thought his arm was better. I keep seeing comments on here about his NFL prospects. I don't see it as his arm is below average for the NFL.
I don’t think he sees some of these guys in regards to the throws against TCU and first half pick against OSU. 2nd half pick was a forced throw when he had a wide open check down. His arm strength is nothing to write home about and there are times when his touch is great and times when he is just off. I believe he currently gives us the best chance to win based on what I’ve seen from Card and Casey. Casey makes better reads, hangs in the pocket a little better, knows when to take off, and generally finds the open guy based on the defensive coverage. He does have his Spencer Sanders moments though that are the drag. If he struggles against Baylor I’m all for giving Card a shot to get something going. I just want to win and sometimes you just have to find the hot hand to get you out of a pinch. Casey is the starter just as VY was but Mock came in at times. Card would really need to light it on fire to reconsider depth chart as Casey’s stats still look pretty good despite his failures at times
 
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It's seems to me like once a recruit ( OL especially) gets on campus and is poorly coached and developed for 2 or 3 years that it's too late for them to recover. Does that make sense? example Tyler Johnson and Isaiah Hookfin.

In many jobs you hope to get a trainee fresh so you dont have bad habits to break. These guys have 3-4 years of them and being ok with losing built in.

So yes, it can be too late.

0 for 2 with 2 picks is -200.

So it can still get worse. God help us.
 
Funny how you knew that meant you. Actually Ive never supported Card and have stated both are not good. But let’s not let facts get in the way of your nonsense. I just dont like the hypocrisy of posters about the two QBs
Totally get it - I think the biggest difference is we’ve seen out of this world performances with Casey, against top 10 teams even if it was limited to one half.

We haven’t seen anything out of this world with Hudson, and it’s not like he was playing top 10 teams when he started. I don’t doubt he’ll develop, but that’s not going to happen this season. At some point, if Texas drops another game or two, then yes give Card another shot.

Doing it now doesn’t make sense unless you want to say Casey caused us to lose the game against OU, which is far from the truth.
 
Sunday Mornin' Goin' Down was by far Cash's greatest song. Walk the LIne is a cute song with clever lyrics. Sunday Mornin' goes deep into images of a way of life with a brief, wistful look into a better way of life.
 
Really? Rewind the tape and watch the 1st quarter. He had a rating below 100 and missed several throws. Bijan took over that game against a team that doesn’t play in a power 5 conference.

Better yet compare Hudson Card’s numbers that game against Casey Thompson’s numbers in the OU game or the Tech game. It’s not even close who’s better…

Take Hudson Card’s numbers against Arky and compare that with Casey’s numbers against Oklahoma St and/ or TCU. Casey Thompson still has better numbers in that comparison.
Casey's rating in the first half at TCU was worse than Hudson's vs. Arkansas.

That's a fact.
 
Sunday Mornin' Goin' Down was by far Cash's greatest song. Walk the LIne is a cute song with clever lyrics. Sunday Mornin' goes deep into images of a way of life with a brief, wistful look into a better way of life.
Walk The Line is Walk The Line.

It's so big and important that his movie is named after it.
 
Totally get it - I think the biggest difference is we’ve seen out of this world performances with Casey, against top 10 teams even if it was limited to one half.

We haven’t seen anything out of this world with Hudson, and it’s not like he was playing top 10 teams when he started. I don’t doubt he’ll develop, but that’s not going to happen this season. At some point, if Texas drops another game or two, then yes give Card another shot.

Doing it now doesn’t make sense unless you want to say Casey caused us to lose the game against OU, which is far from the truth.
He sure as shit didn’t help in the second half, and he did cost us OSU. Deny it all you want but it’s true.
 
Casey's rating in the first half at TCU was worse than Hudson's vs. Arkansas.

That's a fact.
What about against the 1st half of OU? OU is a much better team than Arky. That’s a fact.

Stop picking and choosing stats. It wasn’t the wrong decision to stick with Casey then given his 1st half performance the following game against our rival. It still isn’t the wrong decision to stick with Casey the remainder of the season. Card will get his time eventually. Now is not the time.
 
He sure as shit didn’t help in the second half, and he did cost us OSU. Deny it all you want but it’s true.
Remind me - did he throw a pic or turn the ball over in the second half against OU? Didn’t he throw the passing touchdown to Xavier Worthy to tie the game back up with less than two minute s to go in the 4th quarter after Worthy fumbled the ball on the previous kick return?

OSU was the second top 10 team in back to back weeks. I’m not denying anything.
 
Totally get it - I think the biggest difference is we’ve seen out of this world performances with Casey, against top 10 teams even if it was limited to one half.

We haven’t seen anything out of this world with Hudson, and it’s not like he was playing top 10 teams when he started. I don’t doubt he’ll develop, but that’s not going to happen this season. At some point, if Texas drops another game or two, then yes give Card another shot.

Doing it now doesn’t make sense unless you want to say Casey caused us to lose the game against OU, which is far from the truth.
If I had been the Qb we would have beaten OSU. He was that bad. His QBR was 12 - all based on pitch forward passes to Bijan. Funny how you and Anwar want to pretend that game, his second half v OU, and his TCU game didnt matter because of one half v OU.

I guess the Cowboys should have stuck with Clint Longley too.

And …minor detail - OSU wasnt a top 10 team. They were 12. Arkansas became a top 10 team after us. So I guess you will count that as well.
 
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What about against the 1st half of OU? OU is a much better team than Arky. That’s a fact.

Stop picking and choosing stats. It wasn’t the wrong decision to stick with Casey then given his 1st half performance the following game against our rival. It still isn’t the wrong decision to stick with Casey the remainder of the season. Card will get his time eventually. Now is not the time.
Your takes ITT are laughable. Thanks for the Monday morning comedy! And by all means please continue.
 
What about against the 1st half of OU? OU is a much better team than Arky. That’s a fact.

Stop picking and choosing stats. It wasn’t the wrong decision to stick with Casey then given his 1st half performance the following game against our rival. It still isn’t the wrong decision to stick with Casey the remainder of the season. Card will get his time eventually. Now is not the time.
You're telling me to stop picking and choosing stats. right as you pick and choose stats?

That's rich.

I literally just wrote a column where I broke down CT's play by quarter. I left nothing out.

Is it possible that you need a hug?
 
I don’t think he sees some of these guys in regards to the throws against TCU and first half pick against OSU. 2nd half pick was a forced throw when he had a wide open check down. His arm strength is nothing to write home about and there are times when his touch is great and times when he is just off. I believe he currently gives us the best chance to win based on what I’ve seen from Card and Casey. Casey makes better reads, hangs in the pocket a little better, knows when to take off, and generally finds the open guy based on the defensive coverage. He does have his Spencer Sanders moments though that are the drag. If he struggles against Baylor I’m all for giving Card a shot to get something going. I just want to win and sometimes you just have to find the hot hand to get you out of a pinch. Casey is the starter just as VY was but Mock came in at times. Card would really need to light it on fire to reconsider depth chart as Casey’s stats still look pretty good despite his failures at times
“Knows when to take off” - he has 9 carries for -4 yards. He hasnt been taking off at all. But he seems to be really at running right into defenders.
 
Just watch the first half of the OU game again and that should answer your questions.
Why do you only point to the good stuff?

and, If you’re going to discount Cards numbers when Bijan was involved then you have to do the same with Casey’s numbers.
 
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