Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (I have to confess to being delusional...)
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I don't get why so many expect the AD to micromanage the HC's hiring duties. I doubt that is how it works at any healthy program. How can you hold TH accountable for results if he has a staff you forced on him? No, you let him do his job, and then you hold him accountable for the results.
I actually liked Robinson a bit more here. But the feeling when he was hired was definitely not one of excitement. He was widely viewed as damaged goods that Mack picked up from the scrap heap.
Please explain how a damn good coach fails so epically at coaching? Wouldn't the possible reasons largely be limited to recruiting mistakes or the school undermining him in some way?
There have been recruiting mistakes to be sure, and this guy can't find a pure shooter to pan out here to save his life.
But the rosters don't explain how Shaka has been so bad. In particular, his horrible playground offense is not something a damn good coach rolls out onto the court year after year.
Only from people that didn't know what they were talking about.
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B/S, The “Net talent on the field” quotient will go up from 2019 to 2020.
Talent of the two-deep goes up or down based on the additions of players not seeing the field last year, and subtraction of talent lost due to eligibility, transfer, medical, etc.
(Sell) There are players at wide receiver, offensive line and defensive line that I'm not sure Texas replaces with better players. It's not outside of the realm of possibilities, but it's no sure thing to say the least.
Welp, this is depressing. Unfortunately, I think you have a 80% chance of being spot on with this. We haven’t done well with “realms of possibilities” in the last decade.
If we back up in talent on the field this year, it may be 2022 before we can match the dirt robbers. I’m releasing my Kool Aid budget and applying those funds to the whiskey line item during next football season.
Looks like the ceiling this year will be 8 or 9 wins in yet another rebuilding year.
B/S, The “Net talent on the field” quotient will go up from 2019 to 2020.
Talent of the two-deep goes up or down based on the additions of players not seeing the field last year, and subtraction of talent lost due to eligibility, transfer, medical, etc.
(Sell) There are players at wide receiver, offensive line and defensive line that I'm not sure Texas replaces with better players. It's not outside of the realm of possibilities, but it's no sure thing to say the least.
Welp, this is depressing. Unfortunately, I think you have a 80% chance of being spot on with this. We haven’t done well with “realms of possibilities” in the last decade.
If we back up in talent on the field this year, it may be 2022 before we can match the dirt robbers. I’m releasing my Kool Aid budget and applying those funds to the whiskey line item during next football season.
Looks like the ceiling this year will be 8 or 9 wins in yet another rebuilding year.
It depends on Sam. Special quarterback play can mask a variety of sins.
I still believe Texas could attract the best of the best, even in its present state, if we had leadership that consistently demonstrated it was committed to excellence.
The culture is changing here, but we still have too many on high who seem more interested in making excuses for mediocrity than in building something special.
The culture is changing here, but we still have too many on high who seem more interested in making excuses for mediocrity than in building something special.
Have to go with @Anwar Richardson on this one. Of course I said the same thing a couple days prior, #1 need for our new coaches is development not recruiting. And frankly it's not close IMHO. Recruiting will take 2-3 years to show on the field, if CTH hasn't fixed things and gotten us to at least a Mack Brown standard, HE GONE..
We saw the downside last year of players (especially DBs) who literally regressed. TEXAS wins on the field, recruiting largely takes care of itself.
Since you said "money whip". . . who do you go hire (no you can't "money whip" Kyle Shannahan) we could have realistically landed?
Granted in a perfect world, recruiting and development are not mutually exclusive.
How would the list differ if it was based on what they actually did at TEXAS? Clearly Ash and Yurich are incompletes today.
No doubt, but regression in OL and WR talent give me less hope in the QB fairy showing up. If I thought Sam’s play last year was hindered by the Offense not being tailored to his strengths, we could hope Yurchic (sp) would provide a spark. It appeared to me that both Herman and Beck were all in on Sam and tried to support his strengths.
In the end, hopium has never been my favorite recreational drug.
In the end, hopium has never been my favorite recreational drug.
I think herman had that kind of position when he was hired and a new coach, depending on the coach, could absolutely have it.
a. We're not in disagreement on the importance of development. I've written a half dozen articles on it in the last decade, including this one from less than two months ago.
https://texas.forums.rivals.com/thr...ent-matters-even-more-than-recruiting.451561/
b. In a world where he's not a piece of shit, I'd say Urban.
c. Might be something I do next week in the same section.
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well, there were a lot of them. There was a real lack of appreciation for his background on day one, but I'm not sure that was the case by day 10.
For some perspective, it was one of the top ESPN stories of the that day when it went down. Not even Muschamp received as much national news coverage.
Good question Ketch. That was a hard call and the only reason I would say he is ahead is because he never has had a pathetic year and he never has had a "Route-66" type of game. I think because of that he might be closer to Mack than he is Mackovic. It just feels like we are not that far off from potentially being really good.
Hook'em
So you would have replaced CTH? Cuz I doubt he'd come as an OC.
Bold move.
Though I was hoping for a few "guys to keep an eye on" types.
Maybe I misunderstood the question. You're talking about OCs?
I'm not sure Herman could have done much better than he did. Those are pretty squarely bunched together. The dude at Clemson would have been my No.1.
Looking at this list I got to think Dick Tomey may have been the most important hire after the fact. The sole reason is I think having Tomey is responsible for some fundamental changes in how Mack Brown coached, which had a very direct effect on the following seasons under Mack even after Tomey was gone.
Robinson is my No.1, then Muschamp... Tomey has a real case for No.3.
So, does Tim Brewster
So, does Greg Davis.
One factor that you/ketchum may not be taking into account is improvement of guys wgho started last year. Guys like Sterns, Foster, Green, Cook, Coburn, Ojomo,
Bimageon defense are entering their third year in the program and if experience is a guide, have not reached their ceilings. Most if not all of the really good college footbasll players improve every year, and year three could be a big on IMO.
And that doesn't even take offense into account!
Very well said.
I really am not sure about today's recruiting. It seems that the way we (all football schools) recruit is different. Schools actually have personnel and recruiting staffs that grade the prospects and coddle the prospects.
Coaches don't so much recruit, but rather they seem to be the program's personal representative. I don't think Saban has any home run hitters on his staff. Bama's coaches coach. They turn out NFL ready prospects (or so the parents think). Saban is the closer. The deliverer of the Holy Grail. So, it this is true, then we are headed in the right direction.
I really am not sure about today's recruiting. It seems that the way we (all football schools) recruit is different. Schools actually have personnel and recruiting staffs that grade the prospects and coddle the prospects.
Coaches don't so much recruit, but rather they seem to be the program's personal representative. I don't think Saban has any home run hitters on his staff. Bama's coaches coach. They turn out NFL ready prospects (or so the parents think). Saban is the closer. The deliverer of the Holy Grail. So, it this is true, then we are headed in the right direction.
I can see that. GR actually got hired twice and did an amazing job each time which is why I think he deserves the #1 spot.
PS,
Johnny Mon won the conference 3 times, 1st BigXII/Last SWC and delivered a Top 10 win in program history . . . .easily gives him the nod over CTH
So far
Robinson and Tomey both came in for the 2004 season and then were both gone after one, were they a package deal that came together?
we're agreeing a lot today. Is the world ending?
When it comes to football, we actually agree a great deal.
we've always been in agreement on that, but it's just not where we are in the point in history. Not on the table.
It’s an easy point of emphasis that’s being missed here by most. You and Anwar are saying the same thing, but it’s being able to recruit the elite of the elite players that turns the good to great. So, in that regard, these recent classes are lacking there, but still appear to be “highly ranked” in the polls and that kind of masks the problem of getting to the mountaintop. With the development Anwar spoke of, we can get to the hilltop, just not the mountaintop.
