Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (The latest on Micah Hudson isn't great...)
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I’m just saying that’s the extremely narrow criteria you’ve presented
Which I did meet with an example
And you brushed that off and said give me more
Simpson for most of his career wasn't on very good teams. His Buffalo teams never even won their division, never won 10 games in a season. It goes back to the argument some discussed above whether to penalize because on a great team with a great line and great qb, or not. It certainly helps to be on good teams in these rankings discussions.
I didn't brush it off. It was a great example. I just asked if there were any more.
I can't help it if you don't have any answers.
He was such a good receiver out of the backfield, I think he would have thrived in the modern passing era.
Also really benefits a rb longevity not to get run into the ground and beat to crap on a bad team
I always come across that way but it’s never intentional.Ok guys, I'm going to bed.
Thanks for hanging out and debating, even @Zorlac who couldn't do so without being a little insulting.
But, it's all good.
Asking for more examples … and not saying it was a great example until now was absolutely brushing it off
You didn’t comment on the example at all other than to give the negative about where I’d ranked Davis
Life ain't fair in some of these debates.
I'm guessing Dan Fouts wishes he had been able to play for the Steelers. Or Dan Marino on the 49ers. Or aaron Rodgrs with the Patriots.
We can only judge players by what actually happened.
This is the crux of the difference of the ranking criteria
Ranking based on titles and stats or ranking based on your perception of how good the player is outside of their team
I'm sorry I didn;t give you the pat on the back you were looking for.
My bad.
Yeah you call me a liar and then this - I’m done
I can’t believe Robert Horry hasn’t been mentioned as as a possible goat in basketball. Big Shot Bob has more titles than any of them in the modern era and hit shots down the stretch that won titles for every team he played for.
It’s about those titles…..
It’s about those titles…..
This was tongue in cheek.
I also never called you a liar. I simply said I don't think Bill Walsh ever said what you said he said.
That means I think you're wrong. I never called you a name.
Yeah, cause that's the same thing.
That being said, he is known for being a winner (See the point about Bijan)
Can we just stop with this? There’s a 2025 WR that’s better than Hudson. And there’s no chance in Hell that Hudson is better than Simmons. I would put Kobe Black ahead of Hudson.
And NFL Films immortalized these "JAGS" in A Football Life documentary "The Great Wall of Dallas" as the greatest OL in history. I'd say you're way under-selling their contributions to Emmitt's success.
The Great Wall of Dallas
When you're talking the all-timers, you're splittting hairs and who they played with and in what era matters. For RBs, OL is a significant factor. Just giving Emmitt's OL credit for some of his success.
Regarding the Micah Hudson recruitment, let's keep in mind that by potentially saying "yes" to TT it means he's saying "no" to Texas, tOSU, Bama, Georgia, USC, LSU, Oklahoma, Michigan, and, and, and. Therefore, let's try to maintain some perspective here. This likely isn't just about an "issue" with Texas. Maybe the kid just wants to play his college ball at TT. I'm ok with that. Hook'em
These arguments for Barry is like saying Marino was better than Brady bc he had a stronger arm and could sling it better.
Looking forward to your top 10 NBA players of all time given LeBron is the biggest NBA Finals loser of all time.
Thanks for the kind words. I make up that my questions extend thought beyond the obvious by posing a bit different what-if’s. Your answers help me validate my speculations and I hope my questions create new ideas for you to mull over. Take care
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Say what you want, but @Ketchum put in some work on the keyboard last night! Also he was using coherent and cogent sentences.
On another night, I might have just been incoherent.
