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Trump was very wise to enact the travel ban from China and Europe on 1/31, even though the left criticized him for doing so. That act alone helped to severely restrict the spread of the virus in the U.S. He is trying to expedite the number of test kits available to the public. A vaccine is also being developed, but that takes time. The virus started in China and they did little to slow the spread of it and were very slow to report it to the WHO and warn other countries. They should be held liable for the spread of the virus and the deaths it has caused.
 
Trump was very wise to enact the travel ban from China and Europe on 1/31, even though the left criticized him for doing so. That act alone helped to severely restrict the spread of the virus in the U.S. He is trying to expedite the number of test kits available to the public. A vaccine is also being developed, but that takes time. The virus started in China and they did little to slow the spread of it and were very slow to report it to the WHO and warn other countries. They should be held liable for the spread of the virus and the deaths it has caused.

The travel ban from China was appropriate because the virus wasn't here. The travel ban from Europe is waste of resources. We already have community spread. Testing should have been developed weeks ago and we should be testing 100,000 people a day. Our top scientist are saying its going to get worse. That we have no idea where the virus is spreading. That the testing program is broken and needs to be fixed.
 
Trump was very wise to enact the travel ban from China and Europe on 1/31, even though the left criticized him for doing so. That act alone helped to severely restrict the spread of the virus in the U.S. He is trying to expedite the number of test kits available to the public. A vaccine is also being developed, but that takes time. The virus started in China and they did little to slow the spread of it and were very slow to report it to the WHO and warn other countries. They should be held liable for the spread of the virus and the deaths it has caused.
Trump has handled this in a very responsible, Presidential way, just what the public needs.
 
Nueces has demonstrated the maturity level of an angsty 12 year old. I'm not worried about his insults because I'm not an angsty 12 year old.

Evidence of bioengineering? Everything I've read had shown this to be unproven rhetoric.
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Then why do the markets tank after his press conferences?
LOL you must be using a very small sample size hoss because I could have sworn the economy has been the best it's probably ever been the last couple of years but don't let that reality put a dent in your fear mongering agenda. I'm just going to go on with life. I'll go to work tomorrow, be a productive citizen and leave the worrying to weak minded individuals. I'm still waiting for you or @elcapitan009 to provide the raw data stats comparing Coronavirus to swine flu, regular flu, confirmed cases, deaths etc. I sure don't recall this amount of all out dumbassery considering the number of deaths attributed to Swine flu etc.
 
LOL you must be using a very small sample size hoss because I could have sworn the economy has been the best it's probably ever been the last couple of years but don't let that reality put a dent in your fear mongering agenda. I'm just going to go on with life. I'll go to work tomorrow, be a productive citizen and leave the worrying to weak minded individuals. I'm still waiting for you or @elcapitan009 to provide the raw data stats comparing Coronavirus to swine flu, regular flu, confirmed cases, deaths etc. I sure don't recall this amount of all out dumbassery considering the number of deaths attributed to Swine flu etc.

Economy was guns a blazing until a global crisis hit. Look at the February jobs number. Thanks to a warm winter 273000 jobs created unemployment down to 3.5% Dow at an all time high. But then you have a global pandemic and things changed. Dow has lost 20%. 80% of the value of stocks since Trump took office have been wiped out. Go look at the what happened after his CDC press conference on Friday. The Markets dropped almost 1000 points after being up slightly. Last night the Dow Futures dropped 1100 points after his press conference. Its a little early but survey for the March jobs report will be completed in a few days. The jobs number and jump in unemployment rate are going to be ugly. April will probably be worse.

AS for the swine flu deaths 18000 deaths from April 2009 to August 2010 world wide. This thing is starting to get ramped up so we don't know but based on the current trajectory it should easily pass that because of the lack of vaccine.
 
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This is straight from the fear mongering CNN's website. I challenge everyone to read this with a straight face. This is nothing more than what we all deal with every year. It may have an adverse effect on the young or old with compromised immune systems. This is hype and politically driven here in the states.
 
Economy was guns a blazing until a global crisis hit. Look at the February jobs number. Thanks to a warm winter 273000 jobs created unemployment down to 3.5% Dow at an all time high. But then you have a global pandemic and things changed. Dow has lost 20%. 80% of the value of stocks since Trump took office have been wiped out. Go look at the what happened after his CDC press conference on Friday. The Markets dropped almost 1000 points after being up slightly. Last night the Dow Futures dropped 1100 points after his press conference. Its a little early but survey for the March jobs report will be completed in a few days. The jobs number and jump in unemployment rate are going to be ugly. April will probably be worse.

AS for the swine flu deaths 18000 deaths from April 2009 to August 2010 world wide. This thing is starting to get ramped up so we don't know but based on the current trajectory it should easily pass that because of the lack of vaccine.
How many folks died of the flu last year?
 
How many folks died of the flu last year?
Depends on the year. 18,000 in a low year. 17 was bad, 60,000 people last year was 32000 people. But death rates are usually around .01-.02%. Go back and read what you just posted from CNN. 3-4% That number is on the high side. Right now I have seen 2% so 10-20 times more deaths than from the flu. If you look at the chart from China it looks like it doesn't really affect young people more seriously than the flu. But it really jumps with older individuals. I don't know if those results are transferable to a US population but the numbers could be substantially higher than a bad flu year.
 
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Does anyone remember the swine flu pandemic back in in 2009 - 2010? Do you remember how many people in the U.S.were infected? Try 60 million Americans!!!

Do you remember how many people were hospitalized? Try 300,000!!

The numbers with the coronavirus are not even close. They are barely a fraction of a percentage compared to the swine flu.

I bet nobody even remembers any of this. This was just 10 years ago.

You know why nobody remembers this "pandemic"? Because we had a Democrat president at the time and there was no media panic and hysteria and the news then was how wonderfully well Obama was handling it, how expertly well Obama was dealing with it.
 
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Does anyone remember the swine flu pandemic back in in 2009 - 2010? Do you remember how many people in the U.S.were infected? Try 60 million Americans!!!

Do you remember how many people were hospitalized? Try 300,000!!

The numbers with the coronavirus are not even close. They are barely a fraction of a percentage compared to the swine flu.

I bet nobody even remembers any of this. This was just 10 years ago.

You know why nobody remembers this "pandemic"? Because we had a Democrat president at the time and there was no media panic and hysteria and the news then was how wonderfully well Obama was handling it, how expertly well Obama was dealing with it.

That's total. Early stage of this virus compared to that one is showing this to have substantially more capability for mortality accumulation. Merkel said Germany is expecting a 70% infection rate.

The media do love them some Obama, but he was lauded because he took it seriously and ramped up testing. POTUS is still trying to say anybody who wants a test can get tested; only an idiot would continue to believe that.

12,000 deaths out of 60 million cases is approximately .0002% which nothing close to the .01 to .08% you're citing.

If that were true, that would reinforce his case even further about this virus being more deadly?
 
That's total. Early stage of this virus compared to that one is showing this to have substantially more capability for mortality accumulation. We also ramped up testing.



If that were true, that would reinforce his case even further about this virus being more deadly?
Did the world shut down for swine flu? No, no it didn't. This is media driven mass hysteria with an agenda here in the states. Just tonight they're announcing that Trudeau's wife has tested positive for the virus but they announce it like she was just diagnosed with terminal cancer, even after she has stated she has very mild symptoms,.....basically the flu.
 
I'm not even sure what this means.

Trump just announced all flights from Europe suspended for thirty days.

Is it sinking in that this is serious yet?

More overreaction and pandering to the snowflakes. But siding on the side of caution is not a bad thing. Overreaction is a bad thing.
 
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If Trump had taken this seriously, it would have been a HUGE boost to him. He would have been lauded in history books for appropriate response to a pandemic. But he didn't and we are being reactive instead of proactive.


LOL, no, you would have accused him of inciting hysteria to scare everyone into supporting him. Trump could find a cure for cancer and invent warp drive technology and you would still want him out of office. As of now I'm still very confident this is just a BS scare tactic to try and derail the economy and turn public attention against him.

In your own words, "Trump must be defeated at all costs". Good luck tin man, you are going to have 4 more years of putting on your tin foil hat.
 
LOL, no, you would have accused him of inciting hysteria to scare everyone into supporting him. Trump could find a cure for cancer and invent warp drive technology and you would still want him out of office. As of now I'm still very confident this is just a BS scare tactic to try and derail the economy and turn public attention against him.

In your own words, "Trump must be defeated at all costs". Good luck tin man, you are going to have 4 more years of putting on your tin foil hat.

lol okie dokie then. just a democratic hoax and the rest of the world is in on it!

Thanks for locking down your country to make Trump look bad, Italy!
 
This guy is absolutely full of it. There is NO scientific evidence that the heat will affect COVID19. None. They don't know if it will be seasonal like the cold and flu or not.

He thinks it's a man-made virus that Italy asked China for in order to curb their retirement age population. He's bragged about contracting the virus and going around to spread it to family and friends.

Actually it is a fact that respiratory viruses go dormant in hotter weather. This is a respiratory virus. You do the math. It was man made, as in it was caused by storing common meats together in a meat market without proper safety measures. Was it created in a lab, maybe not, but because of us it mutated into what we have now. You give us credit for creating global warming, why not give us credit for creating this?
 
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lol okie dokie then. just a democratic hoax and the rest of the world is in on it!

Thanks for locking down your country to make Trump look bad, Italy!

If it looks like a snowflake and acts like a snowflake, it's a snow flake. Just because the snowflake speaks Italian, they are still snowflakes.

Do you know what happens when an Italian gets bit by a tick?

A Corona gets its lyme.
 
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If it looks like a snowflake and acts like a snowflake, it's a snow flake. Just because the snowflake speaks Italian, they are still snowflakes.

Do you know what happens when an Italian gets bit by a tick?

A Corona gets its lyme.

Yep. Everyone else is a snowflake.

Just curious: do you have Fox News on all the time or is limited to meals and evening personalities?
 
Actually it is a fact that respiratory viruses go dormant in hotter weather. This is a respiratory virus. You do the math. It was man made, as in it was caused by storing common meats together in a meat market without proper safety measures. Was it created in a lab, maybe not, but because of us it mutated into what we have now. You give us credit for creating global warming, why not give us credit for creating this?

Not always because, and this may shock you, viruses are complicated.
 
Yep. Far Right leader of Italy is a snowflake.

Just curious: do you have Fox News on all the time or is limited to meals and evening personalities?

Actually I have unplugged from cable completely, I now use Ruku and watch Newsy for my news, it's very refreshing to get your news without any bias.
 
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Oh my...

Now do the same thing for Obama's shortcomings during H1N1.

Hilary just tweeted for free testing for everyone
Cancellations of everything
sick leave
and so on...

That's what she would do if she were president. Is that different than what Trump said? I'm sure he meant that when the testing becomes available on a large scale. But we can only take him word for word when it suits an argument...other times we will infer our own message and twist the quote. Pretty sweet strategy!

So basically, you would've given a 90 minute speech to fit all that shit in on TV. Cool.

This isn't a ****ing crisis. The only crisis are the people that so desperately want there to be a crisis.

Ebola started sometime in the 60s/70s and there were 20 some odd outbreaks before any US President took it serious. But lets all pile on Trump yeah!!!

So go ahead and blame the POTUS. But you're way off base.
 
Oh my...

Now do the same thing for Obama's shortcomings during H1N1.

Hilary just tweeted for free testing for everyone
Cancellations of everything
sick leave
and so on...

That's what she would do if she were president. Is that different than what Trump said? I'm sure he meant that when the testing becomes available on a large scale. But we can only take him word for word when it suits an argument...other times we will infer our own message and twist the quote. Pretty sweet strategy!

So basically, you would've given a 90 minute speech to fit all that shit in on TV. Cool.

This isn't a ****ing crisis. The only crisis are the people that so desperately want there to be a crisis.

Ebola started sometime in the 60s/70s and there were 20 some odd outbreaks before any US President took it serious. But lets all pile on Trump yeah!!!

So go ahead and blame the POTUS. But you're way off base.

This has been debunked by Snopes:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-wait-swine-flu-n1h1/
 
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I'm doing it. I leave Austin around 2:30 next Thursday, fly to Dallas and then on to London. I'm either catching the chunnel to Paris and the from Paris to Pau on the TGV-- or I'm having a friend with a TBM 850 pick me up in London and flying down to Pau. After I finish my meetings, I'm supposed to fly back April 1 out of London. I have contingencies put in place in case the UK gets closed down while I'm there. I'll take the train from France down to Gibraltar and take a craft across to Morocco or Algiers and fly home from there. I'll let you dudes know how it works out.

Don't eat to much Beans and Mashed and Banger's! Be Careful! and stay inside and don't go to the Whore houses! And no Spotted Dick for desert!
 
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Least the fish are biting! Ya Know! I haven't voted since LBJ...this Politics shit not my fault, no matter who's in the Prez Office its gonna stay the same shit!
 
That's total. Early stage of this virus compared to that one is showing this to have substantially more capability for mortality accumulation. Merkel said Germany is expecting a 70% infection rate.

The media do love them some Obama, but he was lauded because he took it seriously and ramped up testing. POTUS is still trying to say anybody who wants a test can get tested; only an idiot would continue to believe that.



If that were true, that would reinforce his case even further about this virus being more deadly?

A few people in my community had no problem getting tested, and they tested negative. I think you are over blowing the lack of testing like everything else. Yes, I know some have reported that they could not get tested but I don't think that is the norm.
 
Yep. Everyone else is a snowflake.

Just curious: do you have Fox News on all the time or is limited to meals and evening personalities?
You are dismissed to go lick your wounds now, you have no rebuttal, you just threw in the towel. How embarrassing even for a snowflake. “Uh..uh... o h crap I have no rebuttal.... I’ll just go to the ol’ standard.......you must watch Fox News” I’ll never forget you wailing on here after the 2016 election “NOT MY PRESIDENT!!” =)roll
 
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