Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Time to double down on Sam...)

(Sell) This isn't a heavy sell, but I don't get the sense today that Tom Herman is looking to move Herb Hand.

A year ago did you get the sense Herman was looking to move Todd Orlando (along with 6 other assistants)?
 
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(Buy) Yeah, man. Twelve months ago, this thing looked like a potential No. 1 class in the making.

Yep. It's relatively an abomination what it's become in the time since. Per Rivals we are #13 with a 3.47 star ranking. On 247 we are 15th with only an 89.41 player average. Given the in-state strength of this class along with this now being Herman's 4th year on the job, that's rather pathetic.
 
(Sell) I don't know what "Major Applewhite" type of quarterback means, but Major competed for a starting position and played for four seasons and I don't expect that from Wright.

Let's also not forget that Applehwite's path to the starting job in '98 was cleared by 2 injuries to the top of an already thin depth chart. Quite honestly, if Charles Wright WERE Applewhite, he'd still probably never see the field as a starter in his career given what's ahead of him not to mention what's coming.
 
... Jordan Speith missed the cut this weekend at The Northern Trust in Boston and is ranked 71st in the world. His last 11 finishes looks like this: Missed cut, 72, 71, 30, 13, missed cut, 54, 68, 10, 58 and 59.

He's officially in full reverse career-wise. Missed the top 30 (Tour Championship) last year for the first time. This season he doesn't even make the top 70 for the next to last event.
 
No. 9 - The List: Top 10 Highest Texas prep quarterbacks ...

This isn't my opinion or anything that we can argue over. It's just a look at the top 10 highest rated quarterbacks from the state of Texas since the modern era of the Rivals.com rankings (2002).

The list is inspired by the fact that 2022 commitment Quinn Ewers is currently ranked No. 6 in the Rivals100.

10. Jevan Snead (Class of 2006 - No. 61 overall)
9. Tyrik Rollison (Class of 2009 - No. 60 overall)
8. Stephen McGee (Class of 2004 - No. 50 overall)
7. Robbie Reid (Class of 2004 - No. 41 overall)
6. Garrett Gilbert (Class of 2009 - No. 18 overall)
5. Russell Shepard (Class of 2009 - No. 7 overall)
4. Matt Stafford (Class of 2006 - No. 6 overall)
2T. Ryan Mallett (Class of 2007 - No. 4 overall)
2T. Rhett Bomar (Class of 2004 - No. 4 overall)
1. Vince Young (Class of 2002 - No. 1 overall)

Interestingly, seven of the top 10 and the entire top six all made it to the NFL to some degree. Reid and Snead had varying degrees of success, while Rollison is arguably the biggest quarterback bust of the last two decades when you consider he's the only player in the top 10 that never so much as threw a pass in college, let alone start a game.

Lots of woof in that list. I'm sorry, but from a CFB perspective, at least half of those were busts in college relative to expectations.
 
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Who goes by the name Bobby?

People named Robert. :)


I have 2 recollections of Bobby Reid
1. He heaved at least 2 passes into the stands to avoid sacks at DKR in whatever year
2. He was the inspiration for:
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Let's also not forget that Applehwite's path to the starting job in '98 was cleared by 2 injuries to the top of an already thin depth chart. Quite honestly, if Charles Wright WERE Applewhite, he'd still probably never see the field as a starter in his career given what's ahead of him not to mention what's coming.

Your thinking's correct, however the hypothesis should be "if Applewhite were Charles Wright today" he probably wouldn't see the field because of the QB talent he'd have to compete with.

If Charles Wright had been Applewhite in 1998, he might have been just as successful as Major was that season (perhaps more), particularly if Wright was also bolstered by having a Heisman winner at RB and a senior OL surrounding him like Applewhite was.

You could probably make the supposition that Ehlinger wouldn't see the field either if he had to compete against talent like Card, Jackson and Ewers.
 
If Brewer can have the season he's capable of having, that would give him 2 seasons and he'd probably draw a decent grade from the NFL. Given his history of injuries, he'd be wise to jump.
I suppose it comes down to whether he's capable of posting the season he's capable of in 2020, but if he thinks of himself as a true NFL prospect, I agree with you.
 
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You could probably make the supposition that Ehlinger wouldn't see the field either if he had to compete against talent like Card, Jackson and Ewers.

Ehlinger was a rock solid 4-star (just outside the top 100) coming out of HS. By no one's accounts is Wright even close to even that level of prospect.
 
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and you sited a column and a lede paragraph that has nothing to do with either?

You would categorize Herman's recruiting here as a success with no discussion or nuance considering this class?
 
Hard to disagree. As much as people want to STILL tout Caden Sterns and BJ Foster, the simple fact is currently Brown is a superior player to both.
Yup, he certainly was last year.
 
Please let one or even both be in the mold of a Rod Wright or better yet, Shaun Rogers. First time in a long time we've had non-tweener monster inside DL guys who can also move. Malcom Brown is the only recent one and he's quite frankly not been that recent.
That depressed me.
 
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A year ago did you get the sense Herman was looking to move Todd Orlando (along with 6 other assistants)?
Like I said, it's not a heavy sell. It's just this Monday's mood of the room. Next Monday is around the corner. :)
 
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Let's also not forget that Applehwite's path to the starting job in '98 was cleared by 2 injuries to the top of an already thin depth chart. Quite honestly, if Charles Wright WERE Applewhite, he'd still probably never see the field as a starter in his career given what's ahead of him not to mention what's coming.
How different might Chris Simms' career have looked if Richard Walton doesn't get hurt in 1998?
 
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No, I don't think you've thought this one out.

I think it's been made very clear what opinions of mine are wanted and not wanted on this board.

Take your shit to the Corral or find another topic to bark to the moon about.
Is socioeconomic status of high star recruits one you’d rather talk about?

Get the flip outta here with the “take your shit to the corral” and follow you’re own damn rules and you won’t have people thinking you’re the worst mod.
 
Lots of woof in that list. I'm sorry, but from a CFB perspective, at least half of those were busts in college relative to expectations.
They hit at levels that were consistent with the normal metrics.

2 of the 10 were first round picks

7 of the 10 were drafted, including the top six.

All of the kids rated as five-stars made the NFL as drafted players, even if three of them have to be rated as major college quarterback busts.

No.11 on the list is Andrew Luck, which means 8 of 11 would be drafted and three would be top 3 NFL picks
 
I have 2 recollections of Bobby Reid
1. He heaved at least 2 passes into the stands to avoid sacks at DKR in whatever year
2. He was the inspiration for:
RecentChubbyBergerpicard-small.gif
That kid had a hell of a sophomore season and then the roof caved in on him.

he basically had David Ash's sophomore season.
 
Is socioeconomic status of high star recruits one you’d rather talk about?
It's not really a big deal. I can't help it that the word "socioeconomic" puts you on tilt, despite there being zero reason for it to cause you to be on tilt. That's a you problem, not a me problem.

You masking it with my mod ranking as some sort of excuse... is again... about you.
 
Imagine being so self-absorbed with seeking a slight to fit into your warped world view that in a conversation about players with 30-percent failure rates, you'd take exception to it being pointed out that the affluent background of two quarterback prospects might eliminate a percentage point or two off that failure rate when compared to the average prospect at the position.

There's a reason why I received no emails and very little pushback against that point in a world when a lot of people look to find reasons to pushback against things I say or do.

The truth of the matter is that I haven't so much as whispered anything in the last two months that people can get mad about.... but you want to get mad at me so badly... you are inventing reasons to scream a problem exists when 99-percent of the room can see you're significantly reaching.

That's the raw truth.